SCOTUS upholds college Affirmative Action

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This sums it up really well,
"Affirmative action is essentially a corrective measure. It only exists to correct a wrong -- like a crutch supporting a paralyzed body. Until we overcome our paralysis and lose our need of this crutch, we'll have to deal with the repercussions. To argue against it is to deny the existence of a problem that is sadly all too real." Unknown
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Anonymous wrote:This sums it up really well,
"Affirmative action is essentially a corrective measure. It only exists to correct a wrong -- like a crutch supporting a paralyzed body. Until we overcome our paralysis and lose our need of this crutch, we'll have to deal with the repercussions. To argue against it is to deny the existence of a problem that is sadly all too real." Unknown


But the patient refuses to let the crutch go. Not willing to try walking by himself. So, you give him the crutch indefinitely?
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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.


But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.


Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!


I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.


It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.


cool story sis. hope it made you feel better. i particularly loved the bolded part. it must be nice being a beneficiary of your ancestors and the US govt. what was your contribution to your success?



Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.


You do realize most people who read your post do NOT believe you, right? I mean, really...


Should I be concerned about proving anything to you or anyone else? I'm not.

However, I do recognize that if people don't believe me it's most likely because they don't want to believe me. A successful Black woman who has benefited from AA who embraces that fact. You want me to feel ashamed, and I don't. It also bothers you that I enjoy more material success than most of you posting here. If my arrogance offends you...too bad.
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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.


But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.


Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!


I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.


It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.


I highly doubt you are a lawyer. No lawyer uses word "guarantee." But, this is DCUM, so you are allowed to make up your own ID.
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On THIS issue, I am primarily concerned about the atrocities my people suffered...and continue to suffer in this country. You are welcome to concern yourself about global atrocities as it relates to AA


So, what are you doing to fight this injustice? Or are you just enjoying being the benefactor?



I'm primarily just enjoying the benefits of my hard work. AA has played a nominal, but still cherished, role in my success. However, I do contribute generously to charitable causes that focus on educating underprivileged African Americans. Other than that, my charity pretty much begins and ends at home. My first priority is to make sure that my family is protected from injustice.


I am sure AAction has played much bigger role in your life than you realize. You owe your success, if any, to it.



Big role or small role--doesn't matter to me. But you care a great deal about quantifying AA role in my life, so feel free to measure it in the way that best suits your anger and resentment.
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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.


But imagine what would happen w/o AAction. There will be almost no blacks in top 200 colleges. Maybe SCOTUS thought URMs could use extra help.


Well now we won't have to find out, racist troll. Lol!


I doubt it will help much though. It hasn't in the past. So, nothing new here. At some point, you gotta get yourself going without mama holding your hand, bud.


It's helped my family quite a bit--and I consider it a small step towards compensating my family for the stolen labor of my ancestors. I can guarantee you that we have a higher HHI than you, and live in a nicer neighborhood (one of the best). Despite our excellent public schools, our children attend one of the best private schools in DC, with all the EC bells and whistles. Oh, my children will also attend better universities than your children. I'm also positive that AA didn't take the bar and pass it on the first try for me either.

One more thing: You cannot possibly make me feel bad about being the recipient of AA at some point or another in my life. I would feel bad about being the recipient of unearned white privilege (you, Fisher and the rest of your ilk) who cannot even get into UT-Austin (!) WITH legacy status (you know, the type of AA action whites like you like and defend). UT didn't even admit its first Black student until the mid-1950s. Fisher should feel embarrassed by her sheer mediocrity...to say nothing of her Peppermint Patty looks.


I highly doubt you are a lawyer. No lawyer uses word "guarantee." But, this is DCUM, so you are allowed to make up your own ID.


You must not know any lawyers--lol!
Anonymous
Becky with the bad grades is trending on Twitter at the moment. It's the best.
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I thought I read somewhere that nearly 70 percent of high schoolers in Texas are eligible for affirmative action. The other 30 percent--"Anglos"--are not. I may not remember correctly. But that seems interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:Becky with the bad grades is trending on Twitter at the moment. It's the best.


Yeah, that's not really nice. No need to be sore winners.
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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.


What do you have to say about those white students who were admitted to UT who had lower SAT scores, GPA and fewer ECs than Fisher? Oh crickets...that's what I thought. In your bigoted mind, it's only the Blacks who were admitted who are unqualified. Careful, you hood is showing. Btw, stay mad!


Its funny...the assumption game could be played many ways.

Just like PP believes UT is placing higher weight on race in admissions above all other criteria, someone else could argue a white student with lower scores got in due to legacy or other connections. Or Asian kids got in only b/c they had stellar SAT and grades, but crap in everything else. Thats not fair to the hardworking Latino who scored above average, but has stellar extracurics and a true home hardship (e.g. working to support family). Who is to say which kids are more deserving in every situation??

If school admissions were simply based on SAT and GPA cutoffs, then I would absolutely agree with anti-AAs. Unfortunately for them, thats not how admissions works. Its not even how the work world works. The person with the highest standardized test score and/or IQ in the room does not win all the time, or even most of the time, in the real world.


Well said. +100
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Should I be concerned about proving anything to you or anyone else? I'm not.

However, I do recognize that if people don't believe me it's most likely because they don't want to believe me. A successful Black woman who has benefited from AA who embraces that fact. You want me to feel ashamed, and I don't. It also bothers you that I enjoy more material success than most of you posting here. If my arrogance offends you...too bad.


I think people have hard time understanding how you can live yourself knowing you didn't get where you are by your own merit.

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Anonymous wrote:Becky with the bad grades is trending on Twitter at the moment. It's the best.


Yeah, that's not really nice. No need to be sore winners.


This girl literally thought she was such hot shit that she deserved be admitted to one of the country's finest public universities and then SUED. She should feel awful about being the embodiment of clueless mediocrity.
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Anonymous wrote:Terrible decisision. This shows us how awful Scalias death( or maybe murder) was. It doesn't really matter though. You can admit URMs with lower grades and SATs who don't deserve admission all you want, and you can even give them top jobs. However, at the end of the day, they will be outperformed by those who are intellectually superior to them. It's sad that minorities want "equality", but then demand special prviliagrs. It actually says something pretty bad about URMs if they can't succeed without affirmative action.College admissions should be based solely on GPA, SAT, ECs, and recommendations. At least the SCOTUS got the important decision on illegal immigration right.


What do you have to say about those white students who were admitted to UT who had lower SAT scores, GPA and fewer ECs than Fisher? Oh crickets...that's what I thought. In your bigoted mind, it's only the Blacks who were admitted who are unqualified. Careful, you hood is showing. Btw, stay mad!


Its funny...the assumption game could be played many ways.

Just like PP believes UT is placing higher weight on race in admissions above all other criteria, someone else could argue a white student with lower scores got in due to legacy or other connections. Or Asian kids got in only b/c they had stellar SAT and grades, but crap in everything else. Thats not fair to the hardworking Latino who scored above average, but has stellar extracurics and a true home hardship (e.g. working to support family). Who is to say which kids are more deserving in every situation??

If school admissions were simply based on SAT and GPA cutoffs, then I would absolutely agree with anti-AAs. Unfortunately for them, thats not how admissions works. Its not even how the work world works. The person with the highest standardized test score and/or IQ in the room does not win all the time, or even most of the time, in the real world.


Well said. +100


I agree at the same time it is interesting to look at CA and their system. Lots more asians and blacks and Hispanics dropped after the University of California stopped looking at race but was still about holistic admissions
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Anonymous wrote:This sums it up really well,
"Affirmative action is essentially a corrective measure. It only exists to correct a wrong -- like a crutch supporting a paralyzed body. Until we overcome our paralysis and lose our need of this crutch, we'll have to deal with the repercussions. To argue against it is to deny the existence of a problem that is sadly all too real." Unknown


But the patient refuses to let the crutch go. Not willing to try walking by himself. So, you give him the crutch indefinitely?


Should we ignore the existence of racism? Are you one of those that believes racism doesn't exist?
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Anonymous wrote:Becky with the bad grades is trending on Twitter at the moment. It's the best.


Yeah, that's not really nice. No need to be sore winners.


This girl literally thought she was such hot shit that she deserved be admitted to one of the country's finest public universities and then SUED. She should feel awful about being the embodiment of clueless mediocrity.


Well, 1) it's a pretty good second tier state university, and 2) her arguments helped solidify strict scrutiny review. No need for disparaging her for exercising her legal rights.
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