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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again. Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc. Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over. Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling. For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%). [/quote] What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.[/quote] 2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black.. California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom. [/quote] [b]For top national universities such as Berkeley and UCLA, national demographics should be used not regional. [/b]Nationally, blacks make up about 12% of the population. Incoming black student population for Berkeley was 2.8% for 2015 and the total black student population for UCLA is 4.0% which are very small compared to 10 to 12 percent for other top schools. This is with unofficial Institutional Affirmative Action at UCs despite the ban in place. [/quote] I disagree. Smart students attend school than can either afford or receive substantial financial assistance. Berkeley and UCLC doesn't offer much, if any, aid to out of state students. Those schools are relatively inexpensive for in-state students. California has just under 6% in Black residents. Why would a kid who could receive substantial assistance from Harvard, Stanford, Bates, Williams, etc pay out-of-state tuition to attend UCLA? Such a choice would be beyond stupid. [/quote]
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