North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.

LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

My former fellow law student, now an esteemed professor at Harvard (Jeannie Suk), was just pushing this "everyone should share bathrooms" schtick in the New Yorker. Why should it ever matter, she asks? Privacy is an ever changing and ephemeral concept. Plus, there are small partitions between stalls!

I think that's silly, academic ivory tower BS. People crapping and farting (especially in the workplace) deserve as much privacy as possible. Women and girls dealing with their periods deserve as much privacy as possible. Everyone knows this, really.

Otherwise, let's set up some zero-privacy stalls, and those who pretend they don't care should be the first ones to use them.

Love this idea! I'm sure those people that spout off about how "irrational" and "prudish" separate bathrooms are will be first in line...

The idea is already in use all over the world.

Great. That bathroom looks fabulous. Have fun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.

LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

My former fellow law student, now an esteemed professor at Harvard (Jeannie Suk), was just pushing this "everyone should share bathrooms" schtick in the New Yorker. Why should it ever matter, she asks? Privacy is an ever changing and ephemeral concept. Plus, there are small partitions between stalls!

I think that's silly, academic ivory tower BS. People crapping and farting (especially in the workplace) deserve as much privacy as possible. Women and girls dealing with their periods deserve as much privacy as possible. Everyone knows this, really.

Otherwise, let's set up some zero-privacy stalls, and those who pretend they don't care should be the first ones to use them.

Love this idea! I'm sure those people that spout off about how "irrational" and "prudish" separate bathrooms are will be first in line...

The idea is already in use all over the world.

Great. That bathroom looks fabulous. Have fun!

I can tell you're a high society snob.

[Anonymous]

LIBERAL BATHROOM (unisex)


REPUBLICAN BATHROOM

[Anonymous]

Poop away!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LIBERAL BATHROOM (unisex)


REPUBLICAN BATHROOM

How about we keep the current bathroom system we have right now?

Besides, having a republican/ intergender bathroom system would certainly confuse Caitlyn jenner, she of the conservative "I don't see the point in gay marriage!" belief system

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LIBERAL BATHROOM (unisex)


REPUBLICAN BATHROOM

Only difference in those two bathrooms is which end the shit comes out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LIBERAL BATHROOM (unisex)


REPUBLICAN BATHROOM

Liberal vs republican?


Absurd. I am as liberal as they come, which is why i will ALWAYS support women over men. Which is why I do NOT support inter gender bathrooms. Protect women at all costs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime?

Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime?

Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...

The presence of a trans woman is not a crime. If someone is harming you in a restroom or elsewhere, please yell for help instead of describing your surroundings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime?

Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...

The presence of a trans woman is not a crime. If someone is harming you in a restroom or elsewhere, please yell for help instead of describing your surroundings.

No, but since men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violent crime, and transgender "women" have crime statistics which match with the levels seen in MEN, not women, I don't want them in my bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime?

Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...

The presence of a trans woman is not a crime. If someone is harming you in a restroom or elsewhere, please yell for help instead of describing your surroundings.

No, but since men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violent crime, and transgender "women" have crime statistics which match with the levels seen in MEN, not women, I don't want them in my bathrooms.

The crazies who make the argument you just did say there is ONE longitudinal study that investigates criminality among trans individuals, and they claim the SINGLE study concludes what you just did. But I looked up the study and it is this: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885%20
I can assure you, the study (of trans individuals in Sweden) does not conclude what you just claimed it did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime?

Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...

The presence of a trans woman is not a crime. If someone is harming you in a restroom or elsewhere, please yell for help instead of describing your surroundings.

No, but since men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violent crime, and transgender "women" have crime statistics which match with the levels seen in MEN, not women, I don't want them in my bathrooms.

The crazies who make the argument you just did say there is ONE longitudinal study that investigates criminality among trans individuals, and they claim the SINGLE study concludes what you just did. But I looked up the study and it is this: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885%20
I can assure you, the study (of trans individuals in Sweden) does not conclude what you just claimed it did.

Really?

Here, you go, enjoy:
https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/statistics-show-the-difference-in-rates-of-violent-crimes-against-women-committed-by-transwomen-versus-non-transgender-males/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.

Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?

No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...

Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door.

Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime?

Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...

The presence of a trans woman is not a crime. If someone is harming you in a restroom or elsewhere, please yell for help instead of describing your surroundings.

No, but since men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violent crime, and transgender "women" have crime statistics which match with the levels seen in MEN, not women, I don't want them in my bathrooms.

The crazies who make the argument you just did say there is ONE longitudinal study that investigates criminality among trans individuals, and they claim the SINGLE study concludes what you just did. But I looked up the study and it is this: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885%20
I can assure you, the study (of trans individuals in Sweden) does not conclude what you just claimed it did.

Really?

Here, you go, enjoy:
https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/statistics-show-the-difference-in-rates-of-violent-crimes-against-women-committed-by-transwomen-versus-non-transgender-males/

I'm sorry, you're not reading that properly. THAT "thing" you just linked is not the original research article. It cites the article that *I* linked above and the original and SOLE study that supposedly provides evidence for the claims you (and your link) make. BUT if you read the original research article, is does not provide strong support at all for what you and the article claim. So someone somewhere is not reading things right or they're outright falsifying or exaggerating the research.

[Anonymous]

^You can keep denying it, it really doesn't matter.

It says right there, in plain English, under the outcomes of the study:

"Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

I know it's not what you wanted to hear. But that doesn't invalidate the research.