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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.[/quote] I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.[/quote] Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?[/quote] No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension. Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument. Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier. And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there. I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)... [/quote] Men already have access to women in public and private spaces and have plenty of opportunities to commit crimes. They do not need to camp out in womens restrooms, however, if they wanted to, they could camp out now. I've never seen a cop checking genitalia at the bathroom door, and I personally don't verify the sex of every person in each bathroom that I enter (maybe you do). Allowing a transgender woman to use the bathroom for her gender does not alter who is able to walk through the bathroom door. [/quote] Really? You can't imagine that if a woman shouts "there's a man in the women's bathroom!" and people do nothing, because that's now legal, that that would increase crime? Hmmmm. The critical thinking seems to be missing here...[/quote] The presence of a trans woman is not a crime. If someone is harming you in a restroom or elsewhere, please yell for help instead of describing your surroundings. [/quote] No, but since men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of violent crime, and transgender "women" have crime statistics which match with the levels seen in MEN, not women, I don't want them in my bathrooms.[/quote] The crazies who make the argument you just did say there is ONE longitudinal study that investigates criminality among trans individuals, and they claim the SINGLE study concludes what you just did. But I looked up the study and it is this: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885%20 I can assure you, the study (of trans individuals in Sweden) does not conclude what you just claimed it did.[/quote] Really? Here, you go, enjoy: https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/statistics-show-the-difference-in-rates-of-violent-crimes-against-women-committed-by-transwomen-versus-non-transgender-males/[/quote] I'm sorry, you're not reading that properly. THAT "thing" you just linked is not the original research article. It cites the article that *I* linked above and the original and SOLE study that supposedly provides evidence for the claims you (and your link) make. BUT if you read the original research article, is does not provide strong support at all for what you and the article claim. So someone somewhere is not reading things right or they're outright falsifying or exaggerating the research.[/quote]
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