North Carolina and Transgender Bathrooms

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.


LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!


My former fellow law student, now an esteemed professor at Harvard (Jeannie Suk), was just pushing this "everyone should share bathrooms" schtick in the New Yorker. Why should it ever matter, she asks? Privacy is an ever changing and ephemeral concept. Plus, there are small partitions between stalls!

I think that's silly, academic ivory tower BS. People crapping and farting (especially in the workplace) deserve as much privacy as possible. Women and girls dealing with their periods deserve as much privacy as possible. Everyone knows this, really.

Otherwise, let's set up some zero-privacy stalls, and those who pretend they don't care should be the first ones to use them.


Love this idea! I'm sure those people that spout off about how "irrational" and "prudish" separate bathrooms are will be first in line...
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.


LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

You do realize the communal area of a restroom doesn't involve getting naked, right? Or are you saying the 13 year old is insecure about washing their hands?


Do you not understand the concept of locker rooms? This is the second time you seem to have missed it...

locker rooms are not restrooms. I think our missing it.


No, you're missing it. Once restrooms are fair game, so are locker rooms. You are saying that your sex organs don't matter and you go to whatever place you feel most comfortable with. A lot of people take issue with that for all the reasons stated above.

Oh gosh- another person who doesn't realize that locker rooms and restrooms are often in the same room or connecting room! I don't understand- do these people never go to the gym? Did they not go to high school?

Are you saying you would be OK with restrooms only, ones without lockers/showers? Or are you just pontificating?


No? Where did you get that?

But the locker room certainly adds another layer of danger. Frightening stuff.

So what's your issue with non locker/shower rooms?


Oh I dunno... maybe the fact that your pants are down?

Is this stuff really that hard to figure out? I feel like I'm having a conversation with a martian who doesn't understand basic human bathroom processes.
Anonymous
Another slippery slope. This sounds like the days when they said that a gay guy in a foxhole would compromise the military.

It must be so hard to be a conservative. There's always something around the corner that's really scary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another slippery slope. This sounds like the days when they said that a gay guy in a foxhole would compromise the military.

It must be so hard to be a conservative. There's always something around the corner that's really scary.


It must be. Why don't you ask Caitlyn Jenner, conservative #1?
Anonymous
I honestly think the only people who care about this issue at all are men who secretly want to be able to enter women's restrooms for their own perverted purposes.

No one else pays any attention to the person farting and peeing and pooping in the stall next to them.

And the idea that passing a law allowing transwomen to use women's restrooms will endanger women is just absurd. Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Please go back to Fairfax Underground, queer haters. You don't live in DC. This is NOT the place for you. You are destroying this site with your low brow, knuckle dragging opinions.


Actually, I am a lesbian. Many gays and lesbians are incredibly uncomfortable with transgender people. YOU are the one who is closed minded and prioritizing men over women- 1950s misogyny. No thank you.

It wasn't that long ago that straight people were incredibly uncomfortable with gays and lesbians sharing their bathrooms, teaching their children, serving in the military, etc. It wasn't that long ago that white people were incredibly uncomfortable sharing a school, a restaurant, or a water fountain with black people. A lot of people are still uncomfortable sharing the institution of marriage with gays and lesbians. Do you really think we should base our laws and the trajectory of our society on people's discomfort with others who they perceive as different?

You would probably be rather surprised if you were suddenly given a tally of how many times you shared a restroom with a transgender woman without even realizing it. How many of them attacked you, btw?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I honestly think the only people who care about this issue at all are men who secretly want to be able to enter women's restrooms for their own perverted purposes.

No one else pays any attention to the person farting and peeing and pooping in the stall next to them.

And the idea that passing a law allowing transwomen to use women's restrooms will endanger women is just absurd. Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.

No, but if you walk into a bathroom and see a man in the corner, women will no longer feel able to freak out and contact the authorities. So it will be a lot easier for sexual predators to prey on victims without being stopped.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.


I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.


I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.


Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.


I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.


Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?


No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I honestly think the only people who care about this issue at all are men who secretly want to be able to enter women's restrooms for their own perverted purposes.

No one else pays any attention to the person farting and peeing and pooping in the stall next to them.

And the idea that passing a law allowing transwomen to use women's restrooms will endanger women is just absurd. Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.


LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

You do realize the communal area of a restroom doesn't involve getting naked, right? Or are you saying the 13 year old is insecure about washing their hands?


Do you not understand the concept of locker rooms? This is the second time you seem to have missed it...

locker rooms are not restrooms. I think our missing it.


No, you're missing it. Once restrooms are fair game, so are locker rooms. You are saying that your sex organs don't matter and you go to whatever place you feel most comfortable with. A lot of people take issue with that for all the reasons stated above.

Oh gosh- another person who doesn't realize that locker rooms and restrooms are often in the same room or connecting room! I don't understand- do these people never go to the gym? Did they not go to high school?

Are you saying you would be OK with restrooms only, ones without lockers/showers? Or are you just pontificating?


No? Where did you get that?

But the locker room certainly adds another layer of danger. Frightening stuff.

So what's your issue with non locker/shower rooms?


Oh I dunno... maybe the fact that your pants are down?

Is this stuff really that hard to figure out? I feel like I'm having a conversation with a martian who doesn't understand basic human bathroom processes.

How many walls do you need between you and the opposite sex to feel safe with your pants down? One? Two? Three? Four? ..... Ten?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Criminals do whatever they want. They don't give a rat's ass whether the law allows them access.


I only hope you feel the same way about firearms, same principle applies but I suspect you will come up with some reason they are different. But they aren't.


Are you saying that the government should prohibit public restrooms so that criminals cannot access them? That would be similar to a banning guns. Restrooms are needed to take care of bodily functions. Do you pee in your gun?


No, that wasn't what they were saying, and if that's how you interpreted it, you truly need reading comprehension.

Try "your lackadaisical, 'well, people are gonna do it anyway, oh well!'" attitude is very similar to the gun people's "guns dont people, people kill people" argument.

Of course having greater and easier access to guns makes murder easier.

And of course being able to legally camp out in women's restrooms makes it easier to commit a sex crime there.

I would think this would be a no-duh moment... but not everyone was blessed with commons sense (or basic reading abilities)...


Thank you. Didn't think my comment needed clarification but alas....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.


LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!

You do realize the communal area of a restroom doesn't involve getting naked, right? Or are you saying the 13 year old is insecure about washing their hands?


Do you not understand the concept of locker rooms? This is the second time you seem to have missed it...

locker rooms are not restrooms. I think our missing it.


No, you're missing it. Once restrooms are fair game, so are locker rooms. You are saying that your sex organs don't matter and you go to whatever place you feel most comfortable with. A lot of people take issue with that for all the reasons stated above.

Oh gosh- another person who doesn't realize that locker rooms and restrooms are often in the same room or connecting room! I don't understand- do these people never go to the gym? Did they not go to high school?

Are you saying you would be OK with restrooms only, ones without lockers/showers? Or are you just pontificating?


No? Where did you get that?

But the locker room certainly adds another layer of danger. Frightening stuff.

So what's your issue with non locker/shower rooms?


Oh I dunno... maybe the fact that your pants are down?

Is this stuff really that hard to figure out? I feel like I'm having a conversation with a martian who doesn't understand basic human bathroom processes.

How many walls do you need between you and the opposite sex to feel safe with your pants down? One? Two? Three? Four? ..... Ten?


Let's call a spade a spade. It's not protection "From the opposite sex." It's protection from MEN. And the answer is: as many as I can get.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's prudish that we all don't use the same bathroom no matter our gender or sexual orientation.


LOL!! Some people are just so dumb, and so naive, and so stupid.

Men would love this rule.

Sorry 13 year old girl feeling insecure about your body- we wouldn't want to be "prudish"- go get naked next to your classmate!

What a wonderful, compassionate stance to take!


My former fellow law student, now an esteemed professor at Harvard (Jeannie Suk), was just pushing this "everyone should share bathrooms" schtick in the New Yorker. Why should it ever matter, she asks? Privacy is an ever changing and ephemeral concept. Plus, there are small partitions between stalls!

I think that's silly, academic ivory tower BS. People crapping and farting (especially in the workplace) deserve as much privacy as possible. Women and girls dealing with their periods deserve as much privacy as possible. Everyone knows this, really.

Otherwise, let's set up some zero-privacy stalls, and those who pretend they don't care should be the first ones to use them.


Love this idea! I'm sure those people that spout off about how "irrational" and "prudish" separate bathrooms are will be first in line...

The idea is already in use all over the world.
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