Catholic Confirmed, but non-believer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just doesn't make any sense what you are explaining.
If that's true across the board in every situation then when a teacher molests a child all schools have to shut down.
Every principal and every other teacher is guilty.
Parents who continue to send their child to school are saying they think its ok.
Lawmakers who pass bills to fund these schools are guilty.
And on and on.

You can hate Catholics (and all Christians for that matter) but to keep railing on this (and look up about rape and the NYC synagogues while you're at it) just isn't making the point you think it is.

But schools don't protect such teachers and send them on to other schools to rape again, meaning that the principal and superintendent, with full knowledge of the teacher's crime, do nothing to protect that boy or other students.

See the difference?

Bullshit, asshole. There is no difference. Read the news. Cover-ups happen in lots of institutions. Doesn't make what happened with Catholic priests excusable, but your willful ignorance has to end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DH and I are both raising our kids Catholic. Church weekly, catholic elementary school, continuing education on the journey to confirmation. But I'm not sure I want them to be confirmed. They don't believe in God, let alone Catholic doctrine.

For both my DH and me, we were confirmed despite not believing in God much or at all.

When you were confirmed, did you believe, or were you going through the motions to please someone else or to check off some required obligation you felt? Would you want your kids to be confirmed if they don't believe at that age?

Thanks

To the OP: Maybe you and your husband should just go if it works for you but not make your kids go if they don't believe. I don't think someone should be compelled to be confirmed. They can always choose to do it as adults if they decide to.

[Anonymous]

What on earth is the point? My parents forced me, but I hated it. But at least they believed. You don't even believe. It doesn't even make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could Groundhog and Scorpion be the same poster?

could the person who made up the name Groundhog be the same person who made up the name Scorpion?

So Groundhog and Scorpion ARE the same poster. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could Groundhog and Scorpion be the same poster?

could the person who made up the name Groundhog be the same person who made up the name Scorpion?

So Groundhog and Scorpion ARE the same poster. Interesting.

So venom spewer is a mind-reading sleuth - doubtful

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
a public nuisance? lol

How is sharing an opinion supported by evidence a "problem?" Furthermore, as a former Catholic, who attended Catholic school and who received all of the sacraments, I think I have THE RIGHT to chime in b/c I understand the church. Someone who's NOT Catholic can't speak to these rituals designed my man to brainwash the masses.

And who are these "outsiders" chiming in? more non-Catholics? What kind of perspective can you have if you don't understand the church? You can't recite a damn prayer from memory. You haven't been around nuns and priests - or had any in your family, right? (I have.)

As an "outsider," you should stay OUT of the discussion b/c you have nothing to offer.

And finally, OP is a non-believer, and her kids don't believe. Why go through the odd rituals of becoming a "member" of the church if you don't believe in God? What's the goddamn point?


This poster is just as conflicted as OP - perhaps feeling even more guilt, which is method #1 in brainwashing. love the fact s/he recognizes hypocrisy, finds that these stories insult his/her intelligence, and says religion is a business! yet STILL attends church on a regular basis

enough to make any person's head spin

But I'm the nutty one.
]

Classic! I had to wipe the spittle off my screen and it looks like you've posted multiple times on this thread alone. Love your contention that nobody can comment on Catholicusm except Haterz like you--that's so typical of how you think and your generally warped logic. You didn't forget to toss in some extraneous expletives. All in all, one gets the image of your head exploding. Thanks for making my day, you freak!

Signed, another non-Catholic

uh

Haterz? such creativity, genius! lol

Yes, non-Catholics have no right to chime in. How can you be an expert in a faith you've never practiced?

Call me what you want - Groundhog or Scorpion - but I can tell you all about my former religion. I have an ex-priest in my family and a friend who's also a former priest. Both left b/c of what they saw IN the church. (One's from Europe; the other is from here. So I have two continents covered.)

I know what I know, and the church is filled with nothing more than brainwashed fools who will overlook its flaws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just doesn't make any sense what you are explaining.
If that's true across the board in every situation then when a teacher molests a child all schools have to shut down.
Every principal and every other teacher is guilty.
Parents who continue to send their child to school are saying they think its ok.
Lawmakers who pass bills to fund these schools are guilty.
And on and on.

You can hate Catholics (and all Christians for that matter) but to keep railing on this (and look up about rape and the NYC synagogues while you're at it) just isn't making the point you think it is.

But schools don't protect such teachers and send them on to other schools to rape again, meaning that the principal and superintendent, with full knowledge of the teacher's crime, do nothing to protect that boy or other students.

See the difference?

Bullshit, asshole. There is no difference. Read the news. Cover-ups happen in lots of institutions. Doesn't make what happened with Catholic priests excusable, but your willful ignorance has to end.

Raping in the name of God is worse, I'd say . . . Even the new pope knows this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
a public nuisance? lol

How is sharing an opinion supported by evidence a "problem?" Furthermore, as a former Catholic, who attended Catholic school and who received all of the sacraments, I think I have THE RIGHT to chime in b/c I understand the church. Someone who's NOT Catholic can't speak to these rituals designed my man to brainwash the masses.

And who are these "outsiders" chiming in? more non-Catholics? What kind of perspective can you have if you don't understand the church? You can't recite a damn prayer from memory. You haven't been around nuns and priests - or had any in your family, right? (I have.)

As an "outsider," you should stay OUT of the discussion b/c you have nothing to offer.

And finally, OP is a non-believer, and her kids don't believe. Why go through the odd rituals of becoming a "member" of the church if you don't believe in God? What's the goddamn point?


This poster is just as conflicted as OP - perhaps feeling even more guilt, which is method #1 in brainwashing. love the fact s/he recognizes hypocrisy, finds that these stories insult his/her intelligence, and says religion is a business! yet STILL attends church on a regular basis

enough to make any person's head spin

But I'm the nutty one.
]

Classic! I had to wipe the spittle off my screen and it looks like you've posted multiple times on this thread alone. Love your contention that nobody can comment on Catholicusm except Haterz like you--that's so typical of how you think and your generally warped logic. You didn't forget to toss in some extraneous expletives. All in all, one gets the image of your head exploding. Thanks for making my day, you freak!

Signed, another non-Catholic

uh

Haterz? such creativity, genius! lol

Yes, non-Catholics have no right to chime in. How can you be an expert in a faith you've never practiced?

Call me what you want - Groundhog or Scorpion - but I can tell you all about my former religion. I have an ex-priest in my family and a friend who's also a former priest. Both left b/c of what they saw IN the church. (One's from Europe; the other is from here. So I have two continents covered.)

I know what I know, and the church is filled with nothing more than brainwashed fools who will overlook its flaws.

Ahahaha! So Groundhog and Scorpion are one and the same!

Plus you're so immature you think nobody else is allowed an opinion--not on Catholicism per se, you idiot, but on how your psychotic monomania disrupts every thread on Catholicism.

I can certainly have an opinion on how effin disruptive, bullying and immature you are! I and others are interested in these topics, but nobody else (even Catholics and other non-Catholics) get heard above all your bullying and the fallout from it. Honey, we KNOW your opinions. You spew it 3 times on every page. How about shutting the F up and at least letting the others get a word in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
uh

Haterz? such creativity, genius! lol

Yes, non-Catholics have no right to chime in. How can you be an expert in a faith you've never practiced?

Call me what you want - Groundhog or Scorpion - but I can tell you all about my former religion. I have an ex-priest in my family and a friend who's also a former priest. Both left b/c of what they saw IN the church. (One's from Europe; the other is from here. So I have two continents covered.)

I know what I know, and the church is filled with nothing more than brainwashed fools who will overlook its flaws.

You total moron. You know two ex-priests (omg one from Europe!) and you generalize to the entire priesthood.

You make their compkaints into your own life mission because, why, maybe you lack any other passion in your own life. Or you need a vent for your obvious anger issues? How sad.

You discount the positive experiences of everybody else here, including those of us who know happy priests who do wonderful work. Because your two guys (omg, a family member and a guy from Europe!) must be more valid than anybody else's experiences.

If your "research" into Horus and Mithras is any evidence of your judgement and analytical skills, then it's safe to say that we can discount whatever you concluded from your two guys (omg one from Europe!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
a public nuisance? lol

How is sharing an opinion supported by evidence a "problem?" Furthermore, as a former Catholic, who attended Catholic school and who received all of the sacraments, I think I have THE RIGHT to chime in b/c I understand the church. Someone who's NOT Catholic can't speak to these rituals designed my man to brainwash the masses.

And who are these "outsiders" chiming in? more non-Catholics? What kind of perspective can you have if you don't understand the church? You can't recite a damn prayer from memory. You haven't been around nuns and priests - or had any in your family, right? (I have.)

As an "outsider," you should stay OUT of the discussion b/c you have nothing to offer.

And finally, OP is a non-believer, and her kids don't believe. Why go through the odd rituals of becoming a "member" of the church if you don't believe in God? What's the goddamn point?


This poster is just as conflicted as OP - perhaps feeling even more guilt, which is method #1 in brainwashing. love the fact s/he recognizes hypocrisy, finds that these stories insult his/her intelligence, and says religion is a business! yet STILL attends church on a regular basis

enough to make any person's head spin

But I'm the nutty one.
]

Classic! I had to wipe the spittle off my screen and it looks like you've posted multiple times on this thread alone. Love your contention that nobody can comment on Catholicusm except Haterz like you--that's so typical of how you think and your generally warped logic. You didn't forget to toss in some extraneous expletives. All in all, one gets the image of your head exploding. Thanks for making my day, you freak!

Signed, another non-Catholic

uh

Haterz? such creativity, genius! lol

Yes, non-Catholics have no right to chime in. How can you be an expert in a faith you've never practiced?

Call me what you want - Groundhog or Scorpion - but I can tell you all about my former religion. I have an ex-priest in my family and a friend who's also a former priest. Both left b/c of what they saw IN the church. (One's from Europe; the other is from here. So I have two continents covered.)

I know what I know, and the church is filled with nothing more than brainwashed fools who will overlook its flaws.

Ahahaha! So Groundhog and Scorpion are one and the same!

Plus you're so immature you think nobody else is allowed an opinion--not on Catholicism per se, you idiot, but on how your psychotic monomania disrupts every thread on Catholicism.

I can certainly have an opinion on how effin disruptive, bullying and immature you are! I and others are interested in these topics, but nobody else (even Catholics and other non-Catholics) get heard above all your bullying and the fallout from it. Honey, we KNOW your opinions. You spew it 3 times on every page. How about shutting the F up and at least letting the others get a word in.

Venom spewer, getting a word in ^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
a public nuisance? lol

How is sharing an opinion supported by evidence a "problem?" Furthermore, as a former Catholic, who attended Catholic school and who received all of the sacraments, I think I have THE RIGHT to chime in b/c I understand the church. Someone who's NOT Catholic can't speak to these rituals designed my man to brainwash the masses.

And who are these "outsiders" chiming in? more non-Catholics? What kind of perspective can you have if you don't understand the church? You can't recite a damn prayer from memory. You haven't been around nuns and priests - or had any in your family, right? (I have.)

As an "outsider," you should stay OUT of the discussion b/c you have nothing to offer.

And finally, OP is a non-believer, and her kids don't believe. Why go through the odd rituals of becoming a "member" of the church if you don't believe in God? What's the goddamn point?


This poster is just as conflicted as OP - perhaps feeling even more guilt, which is method #1 in brainwashing. love the fact s/he recognizes hypocrisy, finds that these stories insult his/her intelligence, and says religion is a business! yet STILL attends church on a regular basis

enough to make any person's head spin

But I'm the nutty one.
]

Classic! I had to wipe the spittle off my screen and it looks like you've posted multiple times on this thread alone. Love your contention that nobody can comment on Catholicusm except Haterz like you--that's so typical of how you think and your generally warped logic. You didn't forget to toss in some extraneous expletives. All in all, one gets the image of your head exploding. Thanks for making my day, you freak!

Signed, another non-Catholic

uh

Haterz? such creativity, genius! lol

Yes, non-Catholics have no right to chime in. How can you be an expert in a faith you've never practiced?

Call me what you want - Groundhog or Scorpion - but I can tell you all about my former religion. I have an ex-priest in my family and a friend who's also a former priest. Both left b/c of what they saw IN the church. (One's from Europe; the other is from here. So I have two continents covered.)

I know what I know, and the church is filled with nothing more than brainwashed fools who will overlook its flaws.

Ahahaha! So Groundhog and Scorpion are one and the same!

Plus you're so immature you think nobody else is allowed an opinion--not on Catholicism per se, you idiot, but on how your psychotic monomania disrupts every thread on Catholicism.

I can certainly have an opinion on how effin disruptive, bullying and immature you are! I and others are interested in these topics, but nobody else (even Catholics and other non-Catholics) get heard above all your bullying and the fallout from it. Honey, we KNOW your opinions. You spew it 3 times on every page. How about shutting the F up and at least letting the others get a word in.

Venom spewer, getting a word in ^^

Hey Scorpion! You sound upset that we have your number now.

PS, "venom-spewer" has been used to describe you so many times that I've lost count. You need to own that particular moniker.

[Anonymous]

I've bookmarked this page so whenever the identity and motives of Groundhog-Scorpion come up, we can have instant clarification.

Happy New Year, Groundhog-Scorpion!

[Anonymous]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/secrets-of-the-vatican/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/secrets-of-the-vatican/

Vatican may well have some dodgy secrets. But many priests, nuns and Catholic parishioners are (despite your two disgruntled friends) wonderful people who find fulfillment doing wonderful work.

See the difference, my dear Scorpion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/secrets-of-the-vatican/

Vatican may well have some dodgy secrets. But many priests, nuns and Catholic parishioners are (despite your two disgruntled friends) wonderful people who find fulfillment doing wonderful work.

See the difference, my dear Scorpion?

There are many wonderful people who choose to work for and donate money to and bring their children up in a corrupt organization.