lahoma Fraternity Caught Gleefully Singing a Racist Chant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

FFS- freedom of speech only dictates that the GOVERNMENT shall not infringe. It's no different than if I were to walk around my office yelling racist or offensive statements. The government can't do anything but I sure as Hell can lose my job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

FFS- freedom of speech only dictates that the GOVERNMENT shall not infringe. It's no different than if I were to walk around my office yelling racist or offensive statements. The government can't do anything but I sure as Hell can lose my job.

I just don't get why people keep using it the wrong way. Are they just dumb?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

Public universities are government. They have a case.

Still, I'm glad they were expelled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

Public universities are government. They have a case.

Still, I'm glad they were expelled.

But they are not the Federal Government. Nevertheless, most universities have regulations allowing suspension in cases such as these. I bet OU does as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?



I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

NP. Don't get me wrong, I think hate speech is deplorable and I won't lose a minute of sleep if these kids got tossed for it. But the idea that a university is a place where free speech rights don't apply is too rich to let pass without observation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

Public universities are government. They have a case.

Still, I'm glad they were expelled.

But they are not the Federal Government. Nevertheless, most universities have regulations allowing suspension in cases such as these. I bet OU does as well.

Government is government. Doesn't have to be federal. 14th amendment of US Constitution.

[Anonymous]

I'd love to see these entitled scumbags try and sue for "freedom of speech."

The best thing for them would be to withdraw from the school (or accept their expulsion), apologize for their actions & behavior, and attend another school after a year of quiet "reflection."

But they're clearly entitled racist brats, and will probably sue. It'll be entertaining as hell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

Public universities are government. They have a case.

Still, I'm glad they were expelled.

But they are not the Federal Government. Nevertheless, most universities have regulations allowing suspension in cases such as these. I bet OU does as well.

Government is government. Doesn't have to be federal. 14th amendment of US Constitution.

Yes, but even the constitutionally-protected right of free speech is not completely unfettered. There are safety exceptions. yelling fire in a crowded building is the often used example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

Public universities are government. They have a case.

Still, I'm glad they were expelled.

But they are not the Federal Government. Nevertheless, most universities have regulations allowing suspension in cases such as these. I bet OU does as well.

Government is government. Doesn't have to be federal. 14th amendment of US Constitution.

Yes, but even the constitutionally-protected right of free speech is not completely unfettered. There are safety exceptions. yelling fire in a crowded building is the often used example.

Hate speech is not a type of speech that has restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

Do you know what freedom of speech means? The boys were not arrested...that's all you need to know.
Please walk into your manager's office and call him a fu*king idiot. You won't get arrested but you will probably get fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

Do you know what freedom of speech means? The boys were not arrested...that's all you need to know.
Please walk into your manager's office and call him a fu*king idiot. You won't get arrested but you will probably get fired.

You need to rethink your insults, here. In this case it is government and it is potentially infringing on their free speech rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

Let them sue.

Yes, I hope they sue and expose themselves even more as racists.

[Anonymous]

I don't like the internet age of immediate hysteria and knee-jerk reactions. If these students were otherwise good students, I think singing a racist song on a drunken bus with no intent to offend (i.e., were minorities on the bus?), then expulsion seems over the top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2 kids just got expelled for exercising their freedom of speech. WTH?

I don't think Right of Free Speech means what you think it does. . . You have a right to freedom of speech against the Federal Government via the US Constitution. Not at a university.

That really confuses the point of this. It has nothing to do with the Federal Government. The point is that you can be punished for what you say...just not by the government. As in, you can be expelled from school or fired from your job if you say something against the institution's policy. However, you will not be arrested or charged with a crime.