Guac and queso if you make over $450k

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Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

I'm the poster you are responding to. Even If I made 10x this, I'd still hate buying the exact same item for double the cost unnecessarily (eg planning ahead for a Costco run vs last min. worse brand at the local grocery store).

I like that you got called out on your dumb comment and now you have to make an exaggerated example- double the cost, exact same item, no worse brand!, ability to plan ahead etc.

You got my point which is why you had to make up an example like you did. Nobody is saying pay twice the amount for a worse brand.

If you just blatantly ignore the price of something how would you even know? That's the point - look at the price before just tossing it into the cart.

I look at the price and buy it anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We never get extras like that, but we make less than 150k. I feel like if we made over 450k, we'd splurge more often. But I do agree with making sure kids understand that extras cost more. A lot of kids don't get that at all because their parents have never explained it, and never put ANY limits on what they get based on cost. You can tell this in the behavior of a lot of kids.

I don’t agree. My parents didn’t put limits on stuff like this when I was a kid, but when I left their house and my food budget was $200/month, I figured it out.
I mean, getting guac on my burrito didn’t make me stupid. I could still do simple math.

It's not just about learning to budget. It's about learning how the world works.

I have kids in elementary, and it's very easy to tell the difference between the kids whose parents are teaching them that stuff costs money and that money is not infinite, versus the ones whose parents just buy them whatever without any discussion or reference to money.

I've watched 9 year olds tease a kid for not having an X-box, for never having been to Disney, for having the wrong shoes. They do this because they literally think the only reason not to have that stuff is being so uncool you don't know you should get it. Because for them, that's the only obstacle -- knowing about stuff they want. Once they know, they just tell their parents and their parents buy it. So the concept that a kid might know what an Xbox is, and want an Xbox, but not have one because his parents can't afford one, doesn't even cross their minds.

And people who grow up with that mindset carry it into adulthood, even after they learn how money works. I'm in my 40s and I still encounter people who will look at you just totally baffled because you don't have something they have. I've learned this is actually a good way to vet how down to earth someone is -- mention something you would like but note that it's just not in your budget right now. The way people react to that tells you a lot about them. The people who are just totally confused or try to argue with you about it (that's my favorite, the people who will sit there and explain that of course you can afford something, despite not knowing anything about your finances) are just clueless, and you have to be careful around them.

How could you possibly know this? Unless you’re in the house with the parents observing how they’re raising their kids, you only ASSUME you know based on observations of the kids’ behavior. It’s a common assumption made by folks who don’t understand that kids are people.

DP here. I disagree. I can definitely see a difference between kids who have been raised to know the value of a dollar vs those whose parents just buy them whatever they want. I've been out with those kids and things they will order or ask for when I am entertaining them is sometimes a bit shocking. I have had kids whine when I say, "no, we are doing it this way". I have actually had this discussion with my kids about being conscientious to not take advantage when another parent is hosting. There are definitely kids who do not understand that concept and having observed how the parents are with the kids, I can see it comes directly from the parenting.

Taking advantage of you by ordering extra food? You guys are so so weird and cheap.

DP. No, take advantage by seeing how much they can get out of you. I know exactly what PP is talking about. Like it's normal for kids to get excited about ordering food that sounds good, but you instantly learn which kids sometimes hear "no" and those who don't. It will be something like ordering pizza for a group of kids and there's one kid who wants, like, an entire lobster pizza for themselves. And when you say "no, we're going to order four pizzas for the table and they need to be things multiple people like -- plus that lobster pizza is like twice what everything else costs" they get mad and whine.

I have also eaten out with other families and the kids will ask for all these extras, eat like 10% of it, and the parents will just throw the extra food in the trash. I've seen this so many times. This isn't even about money, it's just freaking wasteful. We're always reminding our kids to only order as much as they think they can eat. Something we say often is that we can always order more later if we're still hungry. Which we do, if we finish what we order and are still hungry. But we dont' order a kid two appetizers and an entree and a dessert only to throw most of it away. We can afford it, it's just incredibly stupid and wasteful.

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I have also experienced this with other people's kids as well. Oh, and even my one nephew. No one blinks an eye when these kids order appetizers, large entrees and dessert and barely eat any of it. Such massive waste.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

We have a seven figure annual income and a net worth that's 8 figures. I still look at prices at the grocery store simply because I think it's stupid to spend $7 on something I can buy for $3 (recent example, chocolate chips for cookies)

You are missing the point. No one is saying buy the exact same thing at a higher price.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dumbest thread.

Completely disagree, we need more ridiculous whether op is trolling or not, its really funny

This is a completely made up situation posted to see how engagement OP would get. Well played, OP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

I'm the poster you are responding to. Even If I made 10x this, I'd still hate buying the exact same item for double the cost unnecessarily (eg planning ahead for a Costco run vs last min. worse brand at the local grocery store).

I like that you got called out on your dumb comment and now you have to make an exaggerated example- double the cost, exact same item, no worse brand!, ability to plan ahead etc.

You got my point which is why you had to make up an example like you did. Nobody is saying pay twice the amount for a worse brand.

If you just blatantly ignore the price of something how would you even know? That's the point - look at the price before just tossing it into the cart.

I look at the price and buy it anyway.

A fool and his money…

[Anonymous]

If my kids generally eat the extra food, then it's fine. If it is wasted, then we order less the next time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

I'm the poster you are responding to. Even If I made 10x this, I'd still hate buying the exact same item for double the cost unnecessarily (eg planning ahead for a Costco run vs last min. worse brand at the local grocery store).

I like that you got called out on your dumb comment and now you have to make an exaggerated example- double the cost, exact same item, no worse brand!, ability to plan ahead etc.

You got my point which is why you had to make up an example like you did. Nobody is saying pay twice the amount for a worse brand.

If you just blatantly ignore the price of something how would you even know? That's the point - look at the price before just tossing it into the cart.

I look at the price and buy it anyway.

A fool and his money…

I know it’s makes lots of you feel morally righteous to think that, but sad to disappoint. If you think avoiding nice food because of the price makes you smart or less of a fool, well I feel sorry for you. I don’t need to get worked up over groceries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

I'm the poster you are responding to. Even If I made 10x this, I'd still hate buying the exact same item for double the cost unnecessarily (eg planning ahead for a Costco run vs last min. worse brand at the local grocery store).

I like that you got called out on your dumb comment and now you have to make an exaggerated example- double the cost, exact same item, no worse brand!, ability to plan ahead etc.

You got my point which is why you had to make up an example like you did. Nobody is saying pay twice the amount for a worse brand.

If you just blatantly ignore the price of something how would you even know? That's the point - look at the price before just tossing it into the cart.

I look at the price and buy it anyway.

A fool and his money…

I know it’s makes lots of you feel morally righteous to think that, but sad to disappoint. If you think avoiding nice food because of the price makes you smart or less of a fool, well I feel sorry for you. I don’t need to get worked up over groceries.

Obviously you don't think it is foolish to look at prices and buy what you want without regard to whether there are less expensive options, even if they are identical. Others disagree, even ones who can easily afford to act like this. At the end of a year, I'd rather have that same amount of money saved for myself. You disagree. Perhaps you don't like the reference to "fool" in that saying, but it still applies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

We have a seven figure annual income and a net worth that's 8 figures. I still look at prices at the grocery store simply because I think it's stupid to spend $7 on something I can buy for $3 (recent example, chocolate chips for cookies)

You are missing the point. No one is saying buy the exact same thing at a higher price.

Right?
If my kids order guac, I do expect them to actually get guac.

[Anonymous]

This is probably an American thing. I have realized that other people's kids would come to our house for a party, pile up their plates with food and then throw most of it away.

I saw the same behavior when the kids went to their day-care. Kids would pour out milk in the sink because their teachers told them that if they don't want to drink their milk they need to pour it out in the sink. They made the kids throw away uneaten lunch in the lunchbox before packing it back in their bags. Just NO. I told the daycare that I do not want uneaten food to be thrown away. I want to know how much food my kids consume and what they don't like. Also, only pour milk if they want it, and no more than 2 oz at a time. Tell them that they will pour more if the kids want it. Why pour out a full glass of milk?

In my home, when I saw that parents stood around like dumpf oafs watching their kids waste food, I stepped in. I would say - "In our house, we do not waste food. If you take food, you have to finish it. So, I will give you a small sample of anything you want to taste, if you like it, only then I will serve you a small size. You are allowed to take as many refills as you want, but you have to eat it. If you love something a lot and would like to take some back home, I will also gladly pack food for you to take home."

I didn't care what the parents thought about it. It was not as if there was any reciprocity that I had to worry about it. I organized, I cooked and I fed them. I very much was going to be the hostess who was raised in my non-American culture. We are generous and hospitable hosts but we do not waste food.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't stop them from ordering but I think it's not great that they don't realize it costs extra. Just awareness of costs is a life skill, even if you can afford it. We don't order out very often but do treat it as a treat when we do, so we get apps and the like, and I wouldn't make them share queso in that context. Maybe if we ordered in 3x/week that would bother me more.

They know it costs extra. It’s on a huge sign. Whatever your thoughts on guacamole, you have failed at parenting if you make $450k/yr, and you haven’t taught your children to read.

And just when you think people can't post dumber stuff...

Once more for those who need it spelled out: We aren't saying our kids are Mr. Magoo walking around blind not understanding a sign above their heads at Chipotle has words which represent the menu offerings and that the dollar sign and following numbers has meaning. It is understanding that when you go somewhere, there is a cost added depending what you order: tap water versus sparkling, a la carte items, soda, guac, market price, etc.

I really can’t see how anyone who can read the information wouldn’t know that.

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Anonymous wrote:We never get extras like that, but we make less than 150k. I feel like if we made over 450k, we'd splurge more often. But I do agree with making sure kids understand that extras cost more. A lot of kids don't get that at all because their parents have never explained it, and never put ANY limits on what they get based on cost. You can tell this in the behavior of a lot of kids.

I don’t agree. My parents didn’t put limits on stuff like this when I was a kid, but when I left their house and my food budget was $200/month, I figured it out.
I mean, getting guac on my burrito didn’t make me stupid. I could still do simple math.

It's not just about learning to budget. It's about learning how the world works.

I have kids in elementary, and it's very easy to tell the difference between the kids whose parents are teaching them that stuff costs money and that money is not infinite, versus the ones whose parents just buy them whatever without any discussion or reference to money.

I've watched 9 year olds tease a kid for not having an X-box, for never having been to Disney, for having the wrong shoes. They do this because they literally think the only reason not to have that stuff is being so uncool you don't know you should get it. Because for them, that's the only obstacle -- knowing about stuff they want. Once they know, they just tell their parents and their parents buy it. So the concept that a kid might know what an Xbox is, and want an Xbox, but not have one because his parents can't afford one, doesn't even cross their minds.

And people who grow up with that mindset carry it into adulthood, even after they learn how money works. I'm in my 40s and I still encounter people who will look at you just totally baffled because you don't have something they have. I've learned this is actually a good way to vet how down to earth someone is -- mention something you would like but note that it's just not in your budget right now. The way people react to that tells you a lot about them. The people who are just totally confused or try to argue with you about it (that's my favorite, the people who will sit there and explain that of course you can afford something, despite not knowing anything about your finances) are just clueless, and you have to be careful around them.

How could you possibly know this? Unless you’re in the house with the parents observing how they’re raising their kids, you only ASSUME you know based on observations of the kids’ behavior. It’s a common assumption made by folks who don’t understand that kids are people.

Sure, kids are people. People who are heavily influenced by their experiences. You can absolutely tell what kind of parenting kids are getting at home. It's not a question of expecting kids to be perfect or get it right all the time, it's their general demeanor. By 8 or 9, you can tell which kids never hear "no" and don't know what money is. When you are hosting kids in your home, chaperoning field trips, etc., this stuff becomes very clear. It's not about expecting kids to behave like adults or be perfect all the time. You can just tell what they know and what they've been taught based on their behavior and what they say.

And just so you know, when we discover a kid is clueless about this stuff, we aren't judging the kids. We're judging their parents.

This is ridiculous because my kids were always big eaters. Some families would let them order off the regular menu at 11, some would say only kids. But then they were hungry. They weren’t trying to pull a fast one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

I'm the poster you are responding to. Even If I made 10x this, I'd still hate buying the exact same item for double the cost unnecessarily (eg planning ahead for a Costco run vs last min. worse brand at the local grocery store).

I like that you got called out on your dumb comment and now you have to make an exaggerated example- double the cost, exact same item, no worse brand!, ability to plan ahead etc.

You got my point which is why you had to make up an example like you did. Nobody is saying pay twice the amount for a worse brand.

If you just blatantly ignore the price of something how would you even know? That's the point - look at the price before just tossing it into the cart.

I look at the price and buy it anyway.

A fool and his money…

I know it’s makes lots of you feel morally righteous to think that, but sad to disappoint. If you think avoiding nice food because of the price makes you smart or less of a fool, well I feel sorry for you. I don’t need to get worked up over groceries.

Obviously you don't think it is foolish to look at prices and buy what you want without regard to whether there are less expensive options, even if they are identical. Others disagree, even ones who can easily afford to act like this. At the end of a year, I'd rather have that same amount of money saved for myself. You disagree. Perhaps you don't like the reference to "fool" in that saying, but it still applies.

Well, if the burrito with the guac is identical to a burrito without guac, then I agree that it’s foolish to order guac.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the stupidest thing here is putting an actual $$$ amount. Is it ok at 425k? 475k? I fully agree with all the posters talking about recognizing individual costs.

At 500k (LOL) I'd still would never add guac/queso, but that's because I'm going to just get a quick meal and know it's not worth it. I will spend extra $$$ at places that are worth it, but Chiptole is definitely not one of them.

Also big shoutout to people making near 500k who still look at grocery prices. I would absolutely not buy something overpriced just because. I also will look at every price and never be like the poster just throwing it in the cart/basket without looking at the price before (please remind this to my wife who actually is the breadwinner overall).

My goal in life is to maintain my income and wealth so that price will never ever be a factor in what I, my children, or grandchildren choose to eat.

We have a seven figure annual income and a net worth that's 8 figures. I still look at prices at the grocery store simply because I think it's stupid to spend $7 on something I can buy for $3 (recent example, chocolate chips for cookies)

You are missing the point. No one is saying buy the exact same thing at a higher price.

No. The PP was talking about grocery stores. That implies that you are buying items that have multiple price points, not just that you don't look at the prices at restaurants.

Sorry that you're both poor and stupid.

[Anonymous]

I make half of that but regardless of income level, no, I control what my kids can get in terms of material things. We don't do fast casual so I can't say on the Chipotle example.