Black enrollment falls below 8% for every top 20 ranked liberal arts college in the country

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Anonymous wrote:Not large Asian populations in Williamstown, Amherst Ma or Grinnell Iowa.

There is a critical mass. Great little Chinese restaurant near the Williams campus. And Amherst has plenty - it is a huge college town with UMass. Maybe right about Grinnell but still irrelevant.

And someone has to be the first. There were no Jews at many of these schools years ago. Some Jews decided to be trailblazers. Now they are plentiful. I recognize that Jews can blend in better due to appearances, but the concept is still the same.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...

Neither of these places have an Asian population outside of faculty. Especially when we’re comparing to a place like California.

So you can stay in your Asian bubble or branch out. Your call. Stop whining. Amherst in particular has enough Asians that there should be zero concerns. Sorry the world is out to get you and no one is rolling out the red carpet to make things perfect. FFS.

Bubba. Asians aren’t the ones who need to whine about being a minority. Soon you white men are gonna be the minority on these campuses, because you’re the mediocre students too.

Minorities using the word "mediocre" is like MAGA people using the word "woke." It is a lazy trigger word that advertises ignorance. If you go through life in majority-white (at least for now) America thinking that all white people who like mainstream things like sports, video games, drinking, etc. are mediocre, you are not going to go far in life. Many of us are able to enjoy these things while ALSO pursuing intellectual pursuits like science, literature, math, languages, etc. Not sure why this is so hard for people to understand. Please remove "mediocre" from your vocabulary, at least in this context. Ironically, it advertises your mediocrity.

Well, for all of the built-in advantages white people get - just for being white- there are a lot of mediocre ones out there. Especially the men.

Just saying.

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

Your ignorant opinion without any supporting facts. Typical DCUM bigot.

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I analyzed the entering statistics for the Class of 2024 across the USNews top 20 ranked, non-military LACs. The domestic black population has fallen greatly across many LACs, especially Amherst, which once broke a record among all top colleges and universities at nearly 20% Black enrollment. It's also interesting that the domestic Asian percent seems to drop rapidly once you go past the top 10 LACs.

Wait- that chart shows BIPOCs were a MAJORITY in several of these schools.

Plus, BIPOCs are close to a majority in numerous others.

How can you claim this shows racism? It shows increasing racial diversity, if anything.

Umm…what? It def shows that a majority of schools have significant bipoc numbers, a few probably being majority minority though we don’t have international student numbers.

But these are less diverse classes than prior and definitely don’t show increasing racial diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

Your ignorant opinion without any supporting facts. Typical DCUM bigot.

You have access to Harvey Mudd’s 2019 CDS. You choosing to be ignorant and wanting to be spoon fed sources is a you problem, not mine

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of arguing with all of you. Time to watch football. I suggest you do the same.

I love arguing on DCUM. It's the best website on the internet. Sometimes I'll even argue with myself to make other people mad!

Why would you want to make other people mad?

Because we have a raving sociopathic lunatic in the White House who constantly has a scowl on his face unless the Village People are performing. He thrives on anger, divisiveness and nastiness. He loves to go after the other side and make them unhappy, rather than making America for all. Our country is a miserable place. And I'm sure some MAGA jerk is going to make a snarky response to show they are "owning me" but in reality they will only further prove my point. And no, we didn't start it.

Get another nose ring. That will make you feel better.

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

Your ignorant opinion without any supporting facts. Typical DCUM bigot.

You have access to Harvey Mudd’s 2019 CDS. You choosing to be ignorant and wanting to be spoon fed sources is a you problem, not mine

A CDS doesn't show graduation rates by race, or who is "struggling to even pass." That's just anonymous forum drivel.

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Anonymous wrote:Black enrollment at Amherst, Hamilton, Middlebury, Vassar, and Colgate is embarrassing.

Yes much better to lower standards to make white people feel morally superior.

No one suggested that. They just need to attract black students, which isn’t impossible.

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Anonymous wrote:Not large Asian populations in Williamstown, Amherst Ma or Grinnell Iowa.

There is a critical mass. Great little Chinese restaurant near the Williams campus. And Amherst has plenty - it is a huge college town with UMass. Maybe right about Grinnell but still irrelevant.

And someone has to be the first. There were no Jews at many of these schools years ago. Some Jews decided to be trailblazers. Now they are plentiful. I recognize that Jews can blend in better due to appearances, but the concept is still the same.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...

Neither of these places have an Asian population outside of faculty. Especially when we’re comparing to a place like California.

So you can stay in your Asian bubble or branch out. Your call. Stop whining. Amherst in particular has enough Asians that there should be zero concerns. Sorry the world is out to get you and no one is rolling out the red carpet to make things perfect. FFS.

Bubba. Asians aren’t the ones who need to whine about being a minority. Soon you white men are gonna be the minority on these campuses, because you’re the mediocre students too.

Minorities using the word "mediocre" is like MAGA people using the word "woke." It is a lazy trigger word that advertises ignorance. If you go through life in majority-white (at least for now) America thinking that all white people who like mainstream things like sports, video games, drinking, etc. are mediocre, you are not going to go far in life. Many of us are able to enjoy these things while ALSO pursuing intellectual pursuits like science, literature, math, languages, etc. Not sure why this is so hard for people to understand. Please remove "mediocre" from your vocabulary, at least in this context. Ironically, it advertises your mediocrity.

Well, for all of the built-in advantages white people get - just for being white- there are a lot of mediocre ones out there. Especially the men.

Just saying.

This is so tiresome. Where are the built-in advantages for the lower class or middle class white male students in Missouri or Oklahoma or West Virginia?

Or to make it more local. Where are the built-in advantages for white boys going to Gaithersburg or Lewis or any of the outer burb schools? Compared to the rich black kids going to Sidwell, GDS, St. Albans, NCS and so on?

Rich and UMC black people exist in 2026. And they have all the advantages that wealthy people tend to do. And those advantages absolutely trump some poor white boy's reality.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of arguing with all of you. Time to watch football. I suggest you do the same.

I love arguing on DCUM. It's the best website on the internet. Sometimes I'll even argue with myself to make other people mad!

Why would you want to make other people mad?

Because we have a raving sociopathic lunatic in the White House who constantly has a scowl on his face unless the Village People are performing. He thrives on anger, divisiveness and nastiness. He loves to go after the other side and make them unhappy, rather than making America for all. Our country is a miserable place. And I'm sure some MAGA jerk is going to make a snarky response to show they are "owning me" but in reality they will only further prove my point. And no, we didn't start it.

Get another nose ring. That will make you feel better.

Ohh. Nice second grade insult. I know you are but what am I?

So you are OK with low grade losers who can't find a job so they join ICE randomly gunning down innocent people?

What really gets me is that if a Trump related person does something bad, all of you trashy people immediately fall in line. It is not a character flaw to admit you were wrong or that someone you supported did something bad. It is actually a sign of strength. But Trump has brainwashed you otherwise. It makes you look ridiculous. Occasionally admit the fat loser is wrong. He is a pathetic human being. Do you want your kids to grow up to be like him?

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Anonymous wrote:Not large Asian populations in Williamstown, Amherst Ma or Grinnell Iowa.

There is a critical mass. Great little Chinese restaurant near the Williams campus. And Amherst has plenty - it is a huge college town with UMass. Maybe right about Grinnell but still irrelevant.

And someone has to be the first. There were no Jews at many of these schools years ago. Some Jews decided to be trailblazers. Now they are plentiful. I recognize that Jews can blend in better due to appearances, but the concept is still the same.

Excuses, excuses, excuses...

Neither of these places have an Asian population outside of faculty. Especially when we’re comparing to a place like California.

So you can stay in your Asian bubble or branch out. Your call. Stop whining. Amherst in particular has enough Asians that there should be zero concerns. Sorry the world is out to get you and no one is rolling out the red carpet to make things perfect. FFS.

Bubba. Asians aren’t the ones who need to whine about being a minority. Soon you white men are gonna be the minority on these campuses, because you’re the mediocre students too.

Minorities using the word "mediocre" is like MAGA people using the word "woke." It is a lazy trigger word that advertises ignorance. If you go through life in majority-white (at least for now) America thinking that all white people who like mainstream things like sports, video games, drinking, etc. are mediocre, you are not going to go far in life. Many of us are able to enjoy these things while ALSO pursuing intellectual pursuits like science, literature, math, languages, etc. Not sure why this is so hard for people to understand. Please remove "mediocre" from your vocabulary, at least in this context. Ironically, it advertises your mediocrity.

But many white people are mediocre. There’s a reason the second merit gets considered the white population drops like flies.

Racism isn’t the reason that Asian applicants typically get lower personal scores on top school applications.

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

Your ignorant opinion without any supporting facts. Typical DCUM bigot.

DP. Maybe you should educate yourself before calling names. One in 8 at U San Diego can’t do basic math. Same at MIT. Professors everywhere say they can’t teach to such a disparate pool of technical skill. https://www.forbes.com/sites/annaesakismith/2025/12/11/uc-san-diego-finds-one-in-eight-freshmen-lack-high-school-math-skills/

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

And the vast majority of Asian Mudd students are incels with sex dolls under their beds.

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

Your ignorant opinion without any supporting facts. Typical DCUM bigot.

DP. Maybe you should educate yourself before calling names. One in 8 at U San Diego can’t do basic math. Same at MIT. Professors everywhere say they can’t teach to such a disparate pool of technical skill. https://www.forbes.com/sites/annaesakismith/2025/12/11/uc-san-diego-finds-one-in-eight-freshmen-lack-high-school-math-skills/

A Forbes post doesn't support PP"s asinine comments.

Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:The discrimination is so obvious it’s a bit depressing. Pomona class of 2027 is 14.1% black. How the hell did they discriminate against other students so much that that number plummeted to 5%? Amherst went from 11 to 3%?! It’s bizarre we allowed AA to last as long as we did.

The numbers show discrimination - just not in the way that you think.

How is it discrimination that schools aren’t giving black people unnecessary boosts in admission? California is about 5% black and Pomona draws heavily from California. Why was it ever 14% black?

And Harvey Mudd now has 3% black students.

Both are national LACs and draw students from all across the country, which is 12% black.

How on earth is that acceptable?

Black students face discrimination in the admissions process, leading to their diminished representation.

The average SAT score at Mudd is a 1540. The only “discrimination” black students face at places like that is that very, very few black applicants score that high.

Let’s keep things realistic. Mudds average SAT is 1510 which is vet good with 55% submitting.

Reminder for folks that before COVID, the average sat was 1520 with 100% submitting. A vast majority of Harvey mudd black students today are underqualified and probably struggling to even pass.

Your ignorant opinion without any supporting facts. Typical DCUM bigot.

DP. Maybe you should educate yourself before calling names. One in 8 at U San Diego can’t do basic math. Same at MIT. Professors everywhere say they can’t teach to such a disparate pool of technical skill. https://www.forbes.com/sites/annaesakismith/2025/12/11/uc-san-diego-finds-one-in-eight-freshmen-lack-high-school-math-skills/

That is about as statistically accurate as my rough assumption that seven of eight DCUM posters are morons.

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Anonymous wrote:To interpret the "Asian" statistics, you should definitely look at the population demographics of the geography where the school is located not just the ranking.

The multiracial category also tends to be majority Asian…

Yes, a lot of Asian in lacs are Wasian.

Look at 30% Asian in Wellesley, most of them are Wasian.

Not true.