Son was called a monkey by a Hispanic child

[Anonymous]

OP’s son did exactly the right thing by ignoring the comment. Kids say things to get attention and the best advice is to ignore them when they say something stupid. This is Surviving School 101.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who was first to suggest that the OP consider the context and cultural background of the 9 year old Salvadoran offender when deciding how to proceed.

My comment was initially well enough received—OP thanked me for it—but when I later suggested that for all we know OP’s son didn’t even know himself that what the Salvadoran boy said was racially offensive when said to a black person until he overheard it while his mother was listening to NPR she didn’t appreciate that comment one bit.

Instead, she reported me to Jeff for merely suggesting that a black child isn’t born with the innate knowledge that he should never be called a monkey.

As I understand what happened, OP was listening to NPR. Her son was in the room with her. NPR reported on what the disgusting Young Republicans were saying. The report mentioned the monkey texts. OP’s son heard the report and said a boy called him that at school. OP asked how he reacted. He shrugged and said he ignored it and went back to his play dough.

That, standing alone, does not tell me that OP’s son even knew it was offensive. It’s not like OP responded to my comment with “of course my son knew! I’ve explained it to him!” Instead she simply reported me to Jeff.

I’m also the poster who wrote that my kids didn’t know that “gypped” was an offensive term until I explained it to them over dinner when one of them used the term. Once I did that they never used the term again.

My point is just that these things need to be taught and discussed in good faith on all
sides to be properly understood. If every time anyone dares address a topic pertaining to race they are vilified and immediately labeled a racist themselves we are never going to get anywhere.

Eric Holder famously said we are a “nation of cowards” when it comes to talking about race. He was absolutely right. And threads like this illustrate why.

But what was said by the kid was offensive and racist. You are bending over backwards and trying so so hard to make us think that the opposite is true. So, yes, is sounds like you don't think racism against Black people is a thing that is an entity, we are just delusional and complainers, bothering the poor little immigrant child who actually is the one with real problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP’s son did exactly the right thing by ignoring the comment. Kids say things to get attention and the best advice is to ignore them when they say something stupid. This is Surviving School 101.

And the mom is going to report what was said. Good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s bothering me is some of you seem to be tying any acknowledgement of racism with an overreaction. As if those of us who see that this is racist means that we think OP should choose the nuclear option and fight to get the kid expelled and have the kid branded racist for life. Who is saying that, I certainly don’t want that. That not the same as calling out the child and using it as — someone else said — a teachable moment.

So because some of you see those two as linked, you’re fighting to downplay an act of racism and keep coming up with these forced rationalizations, like this is just part of the kid’s culture, maybe he used monkey to refer to the kid’s energeticness, etc. Enough. It’s insulting.

That’s not what’s happening here. What’s happening here is overreaction on both sides with very little interest among anyone on either side with rational discussion.

No one who’s pointing out this is racist has really overreacted. The act of acknowledging this is racist is apparently an overreaction in and of itself in your eyes

+1

They want is to not think about and take action on what happens to us, we are of no importance and consequence, our only role is to be a visual prop to remind people of the civil rights movement and declare that the movement now applies to illegal immigrants who resist federal authorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who was first to suggest that the OP consider the context and cultural background of the 9 year old Salvadoran offender when deciding how to proceed.

My comment was initially well enough received—OP thanked me for it—but when I later suggested that for all we know OP’s son didn’t even know himself that what the Salvadoran boy said was racially offensive when said to a black person until he overheard it while his mother was listening to NPR she didn’t appreciate that comment one bit.

Instead, she reported me to Jeff for merely suggesting that a black child isn’t born with the innate knowledge that he should never be called a monkey.

As I understand what happened, OP was listening to NPR. Her son was in the room with her. NPR reported on what the disgusting Young Republicans were saying. The report mentioned the monkey texts. OP’s son heard the report and said a boy called him that at school. OP asked how he reacted. He shrugged and said he ignored it and went back to his play dough.

That, standing alone, does not tell me that OP’s son even knew it was offensive. It’s not like OP responded to my comment with “of course my son knew! I’ve explained it to him!” Instead she simply reported me to Jeff.

I’m also the poster who wrote that my kids didn’t know that “gypped” was an offensive term until I explained it to them over dinner when one of them used the term. Once I did that they never used the term again.

My point is just that these things need to be taught and discussed in good faith on all
sides to be properly understood. If every time anyone dares address a topic pertaining to race they are vilified and immediately labeled a racist themselves we are never going to get anywhere.

Eric Holder famously said we are a “nation of cowards” when it comes to talking about race. He was absolutely right. And threads like this illustrate why.

But what was said by the kid was offensive and racist. You are bending over backwards and trying so so hard to make us think that the opposite is true. So, yes, is sounds like you don't think racism against Black people is a thing that is an entity, we are just delusional and complainers, bothering the poor little immigrant child who actually is the one with real problems.

You’re trolling and I’m not gonna play. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who was first to suggest that the OP consider the context and cultural background of the 9 year old Salvadoran offender when deciding how to proceed.

My comment was initially well enough received—OP thanked me for it—but when I later suggested that for all we know OP’s son didn’t even know himself that what the Salvadoran boy said was racially offensive when said to a black person until he overheard it while his mother was listening to NPR she didn’t appreciate that comment one bit.

Instead, she reported me to Jeff for merely suggesting that a black child isn’t born with the innate knowledge that he should never be called a monkey.

As I understand what happened, OP was listening to NPR. Her son was in the room with her. NPR reported on what the disgusting Young Republicans were saying. The report mentioned the monkey texts. OP’s son heard the report and said a boy called him that at school. OP asked how he reacted. He shrugged and said he ignored it and went back to his play dough.

That, standing alone, does not tell me that OP’s son even knew it was offensive. It’s not like OP responded to my comment with “of course my son knew! I’ve explained it to him!” Instead she simply reported me to Jeff.

I’m also the poster who wrote that my kids didn’t know that “gypped” was an offensive term until I explained it to them over dinner when one of them used the term. Once I did that they never used the term again.

My point is just that these things need to be taught and discussed in good faith on all
sides to be properly understood. If every time anyone dares address a topic pertaining to race they are vilified and immediately labeled a racist themselves we are never going to get anywhere.

Eric Holder famously said we are a “nation of cowards” when it comes to talking about race. He was absolutely right. And threads like this illustrate why.

But what was said by the kid was offensive and racist. You are bending over backwards and trying so so hard to make us think that the opposite is true. So, yes, is sounds like you don't think racism against Black people is a thing that is an entity, we are just delusional and complainers, bothering the poor little immigrant child who actually is the one with real problems.

+1 trillion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who was first to suggest that the OP consider the context and cultural background of the 9 year old Salvadoran offender when deciding how to proceed.

My comment was initially well enough received—OP thanked me for it—but when I later suggested that for all we know OP’s son didn’t even know himself that what the Salvadoran boy said was racially offensive when said to a black person until he overheard it while his mother was listening to NPR she didn’t appreciate that comment one bit.

Instead, she reported me to Jeff for merely suggesting that a black child isn’t born with the innate knowledge that he should never be called a monkey.

As I understand what happened, OP was listening to NPR. Her son was in the room with her. NPR reported on what the disgusting Young Republicans were saying. The report mentioned the monkey texts. OP’s son heard the report and said a boy called him that at school. OP asked how he reacted. He shrugged and said he ignored it and went back to his play dough.

That, standing alone, does not tell me that OP’s son even knew it was offensive. It’s not like OP responded to my comment with “of course my son knew! I’ve explained it to him!” Instead she simply reported me to Jeff.

I’m also the poster who wrote that my kids didn’t know that “gypped” was an offensive term until I explained it to them over dinner when one of them used the term. Once I did that they never used the term again.

My point is just that these things need to be taught and discussed in good faith on all
sides to be properly understood. If every time anyone dares address a topic pertaining to race they are vilified and immediately labeled a racist themselves we are never going to get anywhere.

Eric Holder famously said we are a “nation of cowards” when it comes to talking about race. He was absolutely right. And threads like this illustrate why.

But what was said by the kid was offensive and racist. You are bending over backwards and trying so so hard to make us think that the opposite is true. So, yes, is sounds like you don't think racism against Black people is a thing that is an entity, we are just delusional and complainers, bothering the poor little immigrant child who actually is the one with real problems.

You’re trolling and I’m not gonna play. Sorry.

Acknowledging racism is trolling now? Nothing about what they said can be construed as trolling. Stop gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who was first to suggest that the OP consider the context and cultural background of the 9 year old Salvadoran offender when deciding how to proceed.

My comment was initially well enough received—OP thanked me for it—but when I later suggested that for all we know OP’s son didn’t even know himself that what the Salvadoran boy said was racially offensive when said to a black person until he overheard it while his mother was listening to NPR she didn’t appreciate that comment one bit.

Instead, she reported me to Jeff for merely suggesting that a black child isn’t born with the innate knowledge that he should never be called a monkey.

As I understand what happened, OP was listening to NPR. Her son was in the room with her. NPR reported on what the disgusting Young Republicans were saying. The report mentioned the monkey texts. OP’s son heard the report and said a boy called him that at school. OP asked how he reacted. He shrugged and said he ignored it and went back to his play dough.

That, standing alone, does not tell me that OP’s son even knew it was offensive. It’s not like OP responded to my comment with “of course my son knew! I’ve explained it to him!” Instead she simply reported me to Jeff.

I’m also the poster who wrote that my kids didn’t know that “gypped” was an offensive term until I explained it to them over dinner when one of them used the term. Once I did that they never used the term again.

My point is just that these things need to be taught and discussed in good faith on all
sides to be properly understood. If every time anyone dares address a topic pertaining to race they are vilified and immediately labeled a racist themselves we are never going to get anywhere.

Eric Holder famously said we are a “nation of cowards” when it comes to talking about race. He was absolutely right. And threads like this illustrate why.

But what was said by the kid was offensive and racist. You are bending over backwards and trying so so hard to make us think that the opposite is true. So, yes, is sounds like you don't think racism against Black people is a thing that is an entity, we are just delusional and complainers, bothering the poor little immigrant child who actually is the one with real problems.

You’re trolling and I’m not gonna play. Sorry.

Nope, this is true. You just don't want to hear it.

[Anonymous]

It’s so obvious what’s going on here. The white parents have empathy for the child who used the term “monkey” because they’re paranoid about their kids getting accused of racism and facing consequences. No empathy for the Black child, however, which is why they even refuse to entertain the idea that maybe the kid said something racist. It’s actually quite sickening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster who was first to suggest that the OP consider the context and cultural background of the 9 year old Salvadoran offender when deciding how to proceed.

My comment was initially well enough received—OP thanked me for it—but when I later suggested that for all we know OP’s son didn’t even know himself that what the Salvadoran boy said was racially offensive when said to a black person until he overheard it while his mother was listening to NPR she didn’t appreciate that comment one bit.

Instead, she reported me to Jeff for merely suggesting that a black child isn’t born with the innate knowledge that he should never be called a monkey.

As I understand what happened, OP was listening to NPR. Her son was in the room with her. NPR reported on what the disgusting Young Republicans were saying. The report mentioned the monkey texts. OP’s son heard the report and said a boy called him that at school. OP asked how he reacted. He shrugged and said he ignored it and went back to his play dough.

That, standing alone, does not tell me that OP’s son even knew it was offensive. It’s not like OP responded to my comment with “of course my son knew! I’ve explained it to him!” Instead she simply reported me to Jeff.

I’m also the poster who wrote that my kids didn’t know that “gypped” was an offensive term until I explained it to them over dinner when one of them used the term. Once I did that they never used the term again.

My point is just that these things need to be taught and discussed in good faith on all
sides to be properly understood. If every time anyone dares address a topic pertaining to race they are vilified and immediately labeled a racist themselves we are never going to get anywhere.

Eric Holder famously said we are a “nation of cowards” when it comes to talking about race. He was absolutely right. And threads like this illustrate why.

But what was said by the kid was offensive and racist. You are bending over backwards and trying so so hard to make us think that the opposite is true. So, yes, is sounds like you don't think racism against Black people is a thing that is an entity, we are just delusional and complainers, bothering the poor little immigrant child who actually is the one with real problems.

You’re trolling and I’m not gonna play. Sorry.

Acknowledging racism is trolling now? Nothing about what they said can be construed as trolling. Stop gaslighting.

Yep. And why are they shocked that the No Kings protests are black-less entities? We are staying home. We voted, we did our part. And now you can't even acknowledge things that matter to us (racism, firing of govt employees, many who are black women, etc).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s so obvious what’s going on here. The white parents have empathy for the child who used the term “monkey” because they’re paranoid about their kids getting accused of racism and facing consequences. No empathy for the Black child, however, which is why they even refuse to entertain the idea that maybe the kid said something racist. It’s actually quite sickening.

This may be it, but I don't think they would have an issue confronting their own child or another white child if they were being racist, they just have cognitive dissonance when it is a Hispanic child being racist-for some reason, on the left, Hispanics are the uber-oppressed and can really do not wrong. They can (not all of them, the ones that do) illegally cross the border, and we need to fight in the streets to protect their right to be illegal. They ones here illegally need Healthcare and we need to shut the govt down, cutting off income for fed government employees (including lots of black people), to accomplish this.

[Anonymous]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a sock puppet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, we have a sock puppet.

You really can't believe more than one person disagrees with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, we have a sock puppet.

You really can't believe more than one person disagrees with you?

+1 that person can tell Jeff to check IPs lol.

[Anonymous]

I haven't read this whole thread. Just wanted to ask: so it is NEVER ok to call a black kid a monkey? Intent does not matter at all??

Does that not seem silly to you? I mean, if a 3 year old sees a black kid hanging off the monkey bars and calls him a monkey, that is racist, even though said 3 year old would have called anyone in that context a monkey and clearly meant it in a cute/endearing way?