Son was called a monkey by a Hispanic child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

No they’re concerned about not shaming a boy before knowing if he meant to be racist.

Even if you believe this is true, you can believe it is a kindness not to let a boy grow up in ignorance.

It is also a kindness to the boy who heard a racial insult to not have the issue swept under the rug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

No they’re concerned about not shaming a boy before knowing if he meant to be racist.

Even if you believe this is true, you can believe it is a kindness not to let a boy grow up in ignorance.

It is also a kindness to the boy who heard a racial insult to not have the issue swept under the rug.

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

That’s because the boy is a minority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

No they’re concerned about not shaming a boy before knowing if he meant to be racist.

Even if you believe this is true, you can believe it is a kindness not to let a boy grow up in ignorance.

It is also a kindness to the boy who heard a racial insult to not have the issue swept under the rug.

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

You have a listening problem. There are many different voices commenting, and you’re turning the narrative into a simple, hateful one. The actual fight is not as terrible as the one you see. Be careful: doing this too often can rob you of joy over things that are your own misinterpretation.

[Anonymous]

One crucial detail the OP left out, I think:

- is the other child a white Hispanic ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One crucial detail the OP left out, I think:

- is the other child a white Hispanic ?

Good question. The answer could change everything here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

No they’re concerned about not shaming a boy before knowing if he meant to be racist.

Even if you believe this is true, you can believe it is a kindness not to let a boy grow up in ignorance.

It is also a kindness to the boy who heard a racial insult to not have the issue swept under the rug.

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

You have a listening problem. There are many different voices commenting, and you’re turning the narrative into a simple, hateful one. The actual fight is not as terrible as the one you see. Be careful: doing this too often can rob you of joy over things that are your own misinterpretation.

I can't hear,

or see,

Lack joy,

because I think you are wrong. No. The boy said something racist, and that needs to be addressed.

Oh, and since you think I was playing, I will repeat:

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One crucial detail the OP left out, I think:

- is the other child a white Hispanic ?

Good question. The answer could change everything here.

No, it doesn't, at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In her stand up routine Wanda Sykes joked that she can call her kids monkeys but her French wife can’t. It was very funny.

I’m white and absolutely have referred to my kids as little monkeys. I’d never say that about a black kid though because I know better.

We’re now 20 pages into this thread and OP has yet to come back and provide any context or follow up thoughts. Until she does, I’m not convinced that the boy who called her son a monkey had racist intent. I’m giving the benefit of the doubt here. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be talked to, gently, and have things explained to him. He definitely should. But I’m not going to label a 9 year old a racist without more context.

We don't have to give the boy the benefit of the doubt.

Yes we do. He deserves it and at the same time needs to have a sit down about this. They’re not mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

That’s because the boy is a minority.

And?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In her stand up routine Wanda Sykes joked that she can call her kids monkeys but her French wife can’t. It was very funny.

I’m white and absolutely have referred to my kids as little monkeys. I’d never say that about a black kid though because I know better.

We’re now 20 pages into this thread and OP has yet to come back and provide any context or follow up thoughts. Until she does, I’m not convinced that the boy who called her son a monkey had racist intent. I’m giving the benefit of the doubt here. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be talked to, gently, and have things explained to him. He definitely should. But I’m not going to label a 9 year old a racist without more context.

We don't have to give the boy the benefit of the doubt.

Yes we do. He deserves it and at the same time needs to have a sit down about this. They’re not mutually exclusive.

His words speak for themselves, removing all doubt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

No they’re concerned about not shaming a boy before knowing if he meant to be racist.

Even if you believe this is true, you can believe it is a kindness not to let a boy grow up in ignorance.

It is also a kindness to the boy who heard a racial insult to not have the issue swept under the rug.

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

You have a listening problem. There are many different voices commenting, and you’re turning the narrative into a simple, hateful one. The actual fight is not as terrible as the one you see. Be careful: doing this too often can rob you of joy over things that are your own misinterpretation.

I can't hear,

or see,

Lack joy,

because I think you are wrong. No. The boy said something racist, and that needs to be addressed.

Oh, and since you think I was playing, I will repeat:

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

I think you missed the part where I agreed it needed to be addressed. Listening… it helps move conversations forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP never would say what the consequences for the slur caller ought to be.

Not OP but discipline means to teach. If OP doesnt bring it up to the teacher/admin and they dont bring it up to the family then how will the kid who used the slur and their family know not to say that here, regardless of their culture, they live in the US and shouldnt call a black child a monkey. Or 'mono', no matter how affectionately the term is in its 'root' culture.
If the kid who used 'monkey' as a slur knowingly used it as a slur then he and his family are being corrected and taught that it wont be tolerated.
Regardless it needs to be brought to their attention.

+1. It is a kindness to explain to the boy now.

Everyone on this thread is so so concerned about not hurting the feelings of the offending kid.

No they’re concerned about not shaming a boy before knowing if he meant to be racist.

Even if you believe this is true, you can believe it is a kindness not to let a boy grow up in ignorance.

It is also a kindness to the boy who heard a racial insult to not have the issue swept under the rug.

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

You have a listening problem. There are many different voices commenting, and you’re turning the narrative into a simple, hateful one. The actual fight is not as terrible as the one you see. Be careful: doing this too often can rob you of joy over things that are your own misinterpretation.

I can't hear,

or see,

Lack joy,

because I think you are wrong. No. The boy said something racist, and that needs to be addressed.

Oh, and since you think I was playing, I will repeat:

No, this issue is he said something racist, but posters really really think the OP should not care, because they don't care, the issue is a nothingness to them, so they can't intellectually conceive that something wrong was done. So a lot of what ifs and excuses made for a cut and dry issue.

I think you missed the part where I agreed it needed to be addressed. Listening… it helps move conversations forward.

So to:

I can't hear,

or see,

Lack joy,

I now need to add....

do not know how to listen.

Again, all because I disagree with you.

Anymore to add?

[Anonymous]

To the know it all who said something about Jefferson’s - I was watching The Lowdown on TV about a writer who sees a conspiracy in a small Oklahoma town. Two guys arguing, one gets really mad and calls the other one “you self righteous cracker!” Written in 2025.

Use of words ebb and flow.