Conservatives of DCUM - where do you draw the line?

[Anonymous]

Justice isn’t partisan. It’s just inconvenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

My opinion of Trump does not matter because it has no power to seat/unseat a president. Just because Trump acts like a Democrat does not mean I will stop supporting the Republican party. If Trump is removed, it will be president Vance. If Trump stays, more Liberals implode, some by self-immolation, some to live in a mental asylum which is what the Democratic party looks like to me: a loony bin full of weird-haired circus freaks screaming about pronouns.

Win-Win.

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

It is not about brown people—way to go supporting that stupid narrative, it is about waves of lawless invaders crossing our borders which is illegal to do regardless of skin color.

The equivalent of due process is served if a person is in this country without a visa or proper authorization. Not being able to speak English along with no identification means Uncle Sam’s big boot goes right into your butt and out the door you go. Good-bye and good riddance!

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

Anything Trump does is 10,000 times better than anything the Democrats would do. In some cases, Trump is the lesser of two evils.

The Democratic party is the party of murder, sexual deviance, and perversion. It is soft on crime, giving light sentences or none at all for those who do evil.

Calling Democrats the “party of perversion and crime” is projection at best and propaganda at worst. Let’s unpack the irony:

- 34-time FELON Donald Trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation by a jury in the E. Jean Carroll case, and ordered to pay over $88 million in damages. That’s not hearsay or fake news, it’s a legal verdict.

- More than 25 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including rape, groping, and walking in on underage pageant contestants.

- Republican leaders defended Roy Moore, a Senate candidate accused of pursuing teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

- Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the House, admitted to sexually abusing teenage boys and paid hush money to cover it up.

- Matt Gaetz, a sitting Republican congressman, is under investigation for sex trafficking of a minor.

If you want to talk about “perversion,” start with the party that keeps elevating men with credible sexual abuse allegations and covering them up, as Republicans are currently doing with the Epstein files.

As for crime? Democratic-led cities have seen drops in violent crime, and Democratic lawmakers have passed bipartisan legislation to fund police and reform sentencing. Meanwhile, Republicans push fear-based narratives while opposing gun safety laws that could actually reduce crime.

And on immigration: ICE under Trump has violated due process repeatedly, detaining migrants without hearings, deporting them to third countries with as little as six hours’ notice, and even arresting people inside courthouses without warrants. That’s not law and order—it’s authoritarianism.

So no, Democrats aren’t the party of crime or perversion. They’re the party trying to fix broken systems while Republicans defend abusers, ignore court rulings, and weaponize cruelty for political gain.

No one thinks a NY jury is capable of applying the law correctly any more than people are persuaded by so-called "credible" allegations of sexual assault. Those words no longer have meaning because Democrats have corrupted our systems.

Karma can be a biatch for you and all the females in your life. How could you be so dismissive and disgusting of all those women who finally came out of the shadows to testify under oath against predator trump.

This type of stuff doesn't happen to the women in my life, and I don't find the gang-piling to make their allegations more credible.

If you want to convince me you can tell credible accusations apart from bad ones, please tell me the best reasons why Christine Ford's allegations likely lacked merit?

Because the party of pedophiles had his back. Many were sitting in the Hart Senate Office when a black woman kicked his beer loving a$$. The investigation was incomplete and manipulated by the White House.

FBI DID NOT INVESTIGATE OR CONTACT:

Ford

Kavanaugh

3rd accuser Julie Swetnick whose lawyer provided a sworn statement with allegations

Ford's attorneys provided the FBI with a list of individuals she had confided in about the alleged assault, including her husband and several friends. Ramirez's lawyers also provided a list of more than 20 potential witnesses, many of whom were not contacted by the FBI

Many others who knew Kavanaugh at the time of the alleged incidents reached out to the FBI or spoke to the media about his behavior during those years. FBI did not interview all of them.

[Anonymous]

This.

It was all swept under the rug. But let's go on with pardoning Maxwell for her silence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

Uh, you may want to check yourself: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cartel-family-members-entered-us-deal-trump-mexican-chief-confirms-rcna206917

Mexico’s security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

Uh, you may want to check yourself: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cartel-family-members-entered-us-deal-trump-mexican-chief-confirms-rcna206917

Mexico’s security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration.

"Mexican Security Secretary Omar García Harfuch confirmed a report by independent journalist Luis Chaparro that family members of Ovidio Guzman Lopez, who was extradited to the United States in 2023, had entered the U.S."

"He believed that was the case because the former cartel boss, whose lawyer said in January he had entered negotiations with U.S. authorities, had been pointing fingers at members of other criminal organizations likely as part of a cooperation agreement."

Yes. What am I supposed to make of this? That they came here to facilitate or accede to court/legal proceedings? Had to come here maybe for venue legalities?

Do you think you have something here?

Nice headline. What elese do you have for me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

I don’t believe that Trump is a pedophile, although he may be a rapist.

No, I am not fine with him deporting all brown people, but I have much less heartburn about deporting persons here illegally.

I don’t particularly like Trump but simply thought he was a better option than Harris based on my policy positions. I still feel that way and would vote for him again.

How do you feel about his approach to governing and decision-making?
Would you trust him to run your company?
Would you trust him to be alone with the women in your life?
Do you think he’s a good role model for young adults and children?

Trump is unsophisticated but shrewd enough to understand power and what motivates people.

Trump would not be my first choice to run my company, but I would choose him over Harris in most cases.

Yes I would trust him to be around women and children.

Any person who manages to be elected President twice has some positive traits.

Np here. Wow. Why exactly would you choose him over Harris?

NP. I absolutely chose him over Harris and would do so again. Multiple reasons, the border and immigration being number one. But right up there is his halting of the madness of "gender care" for minors, and his support for keeping men out of women's sports and spaces.

Do men need all of society to support them in their ability to manage themselves around women?

Your argument is predicated on the idea that men are infantile beings who need physical barriers to keep themselves from attacking women. Maybe instead of just enabling your fellow men to be snowflakes and melt all reason away to impulses around women, you could also try telling men they should control themselves.

Interesting theory. I’m a woman, BTW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Trump is a pedophile - Will that deter your support for him?

On immigration - are you ok with ICE rounding up all brown people and holding them/deporting them with no due process?

From my view republicans are pretty much fine with anything Trump does as long as the economy is humming along and they are getting richer. He could actually murder someone in broad daylight or sexually assault someone and they probably wouldn’t care.

I don’t believe that Trump is a pedophile, although he may be a rapist.

No, I am not fine with him deporting all brown people, but I have much less heartburn about deporting persons here illegally.

I don’t particularly like Trump but simply thought he was a better option than Harris based on my policy positions. I still feel that way and would vote for him again.

How do you feel about his approach to governing and decision-making?
Would you trust him to run your company?
Would you trust him to be alone with the women in your life?
Do you think he’s a good role model for young adults and children?

Trump is unsophisticated but shrewd enough to understand power and what motivates people.

Trump would not be my first choice to run my company, but I would choose him over Harris in most cases.

Yes I would trust him to be around women and children.

Any person who manages to be elected President twice has some positive traits.

Np here. Wow. Why exactly would you choose him over Harris?

NP. I absolutely chose him over Harris and would do so again. Multiple reasons, the border and immigration being number one. But right up there is his halting of the madness of "gender care" for minors, and his support for keeping men out of women's sports and spaces.

Gender care for minors and men in women’s sports? Such small numbers.
Your post smacks of no empathy for anyone different than yourself. How sad.

Gaslighting at its finest! Nice job.

[Anonymous]

Republican Party of Predators. Updated every 5 minutes.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTFikAP6MXDCJjWzgMIOvpsT1ji-HwO-rLEvNE8e-cfCGh0YHoZluIG5TEsmwFub7MzIDfh0XgvcWL8/pub

Full profiles of depravity:
https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook?page=1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't personally understand how people don't have a problem with Trump's behavior and still support him, however, it seems like his handling of the government is horrifying.

-cutting off money for cancer research
-cutting kids off of medicaid and school lunch
-EPA closing research office that researches chemicals
-cutting national parks and clean energy
-re-opening coal plants
-cutting money for people with black lung
-tariffs every other day
-gaza
-terrible and dumb cabinet officials
-Hegseth as Sec of Defense????
-cutting funding at USDA can't be good
-cutting funding for maternal health
-slashing the government without knowing what they are cutting
-sending the marines to CA - what a waste of money
ICE officials deporting american citizens

The list goes on and on.

It's not him, it's Project 2025

The types of things

Because democrats implement open borders and expand legal immigration

They want to replace all US workers with cheap foreign guest workers

Last time I checked, Obama deported more than Trump ever could. How do you explain that with your narrative?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't personally understand how people don't have a problem with Trump's behavior and still support him, however, it seems like his handling of the government is horrifying.

-cutting off money for cancer research
-cutting kids off of medicaid and school lunch
-EPA closing research office that researches chemicals
-cutting national parks and clean energy
-re-opening coal plants
-cutting money for people with black lung
-tariffs every other day
-gaza
-terrible and dumb cabinet officials
-Hegseth as Sec of Defense????
-cutting funding at USDA can't be good
-cutting funding for maternal health
-slashing the government without knowing what they are cutting
-sending the marines to CA - what a waste of money
ICE officials deporting american citizens

The list goes on and on.

It's not him, it's Project 2025

The types of things

Because democrats implement open borders and expand legal immigration

They want to replace all US workers with cheap foreign guest workers

Last time I checked, Obama deported more than Trump ever could. How do you explain that with your narrative?

Obama knew how to deal with nuances and nuisances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't personally understand how people don't have a problem with Trump's behavior and still support him, however, it seems like his handling of the government is horrifying.

-cutting off money for cancer research
-cutting kids off of medicaid and school lunch
-EPA closing research office that researches chemicals
-cutting national parks and clean energy
-re-opening coal plants
-cutting money for people with black lung
-tariffs every other day
-gaza
-terrible and dumb cabinet officials
-Hegseth as Sec of Defense????
-cutting funding at USDA can't be good
-cutting funding for maternal health
-slashing the government without knowing what they are cutting
-sending the marines to CA - what a waste of money
ICE officials deporting american citizens

The list goes on and on.

It's not him, it's Project 2025

The types of things

Because democrats implement open borders and expand legal immigration

They want to replace all US workers with cheap foreign guest workers

Last time I checked, Obama deported more than Trump ever could. How do you explain that with your narrative?

Last I checked, you don't get through the border on Trump's watch. Why is that? You democrats told us it would take new legislation for that to happen. What changed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the two specifics OP mentioned: is there a line?

NP

Oh, there’s a line—they just redraw it every time their guy crosses it.

Sexual assault? “Gray area.”
Child trafficking? “Complicated.”
Bribery, blackmail, obstruction? “Fake news.”

As long as the system is being “disrupted” in their favor, suddenly everything becomes negotiable. You could find Epstein’s name tattooed on someone’s ledger in blood and they’d still ask, “But did you see the plane logs?”

And when cornered? The attitude is dismissive or defensive as they fall back on The First “Lady” (Skank) Melania’s infamous shrug. “Boys will be boys.” “I dont really care, do you?” while bringing up political grievances harbored from past administrations. They are bitter.

Here’s the problem: Bad parenting isn’t illegal. Being a skanky escort isn’t illegal. Rape is. Sexual exploitation is. Human trafficking is.

What we’re witnessing isn’t a lack of evidence—it’s a lack of will. A.LACK.OF.WILL. When your tribe controls the files, the framing, and the fallout, accountability becomes optional.

That’s not a justice system. That’s a protection racket wrapped in a flag and baptized in selective outrage.

You as a democrat are going to lecture anyone on human trafficking?

That's like a pillar of your party, FFS. Cartels, Coyotes, Rape Trees, Alejandro Mayorkas, Smuggling with a wink and a nod?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/dozens-found-dead-san-antonio-texas-truck-tractor-trailer/3751980/

I’m not a Democrat. Nor a dimwit. I’m an Independent—strategically so. I’ve been registered with both major parties at different points, but I vote based on policy, not personality. My allegiance is to whichever candidate or party is best equipped to address domestic and global challenges during their term.

If human trafficking is a “pillar” of any political party, then tear it down—forcefully and responsibly. But let’s not be lazy about it. Dismantle the system with a plan so we’re not just setting fire to institutions and expecting justice to rise from the ashes.

I support the deportation of undocumented immigrants who commit violent or predatory crimes. I also support sanctuary cities and vetted asylum policies for those fleeing legitimate danger. It’s called nuance—something cable news and partisan echo chambers have long abandoned.

You don’t get to cherry-pick your outrage. Either you care about justice or you don’t. The rest is tribal noise.

Love,
An American Independent 🇺🇸

Narrator: the person you are responding to doesn't actually care about justice and doesn't know the meaning of the word "nuance"

Thank you. My sincere hope is that the person I was responding to doesn’t reflect the reasoning process of most Americans.

It would be refreshing if more people not only recognized nuance—but also knew what to do with it.

That’s how real solutions begin.

Screw your nuance. It's a mask for pushing your one-world, no borders, and soft on crime agenda.

Been there, done that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't personally understand how people don't have a problem with Trump's behavior and still support him, however, it seems like his handling of the government is horrifying.

-cutting off money for cancer research
-cutting kids off of medicaid and school lunch
-EPA closing research office that researches chemicals
-cutting national parks and clean energy
-re-opening coal plants
-cutting money for people with black lung
-tariffs every other day
-gaza
-terrible and dumb cabinet officials
-Hegseth as Sec of Defense????
-cutting funding at USDA can't be good
-cutting funding for maternal health
-slashing the government without knowing what they are cutting
-sending the marines to CA - what a waste of money
ICE officials deporting american citizens

The list goes on and on.

It's not him, it's Project 2025

The types of things

Because democrats implement open borders and expand legal immigration

They want to replace all US workers with cheap foreign guest workers

Last time I checked, Obama deported more than Trump ever could. How do you explain that with your narrative?

Last I checked, you don't get through the border on Trump's watch. Why is that? You democrats told us it would take new legislation for that to happen. What changed?

Dems had a deal with the Rs and Trump killed it. You can't have it both ways.