Michigan announces ED

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sara Harberson summarizes it nicely on her blog:

https://www.saraharberson.com/blog?utm_term=sara%20harberson%20blog&utm_campaign=SW+-+Branded&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=6657667648&hsa_cam=15597271379&hsa_grp=134788745961&hsa_ad=575838087502&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-1790023745432&hsa_kw=sara%20harberson%20blog&hsa_mt=e&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=15597271379&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqpuCttqzjgMVAUlHAR3Mrwq-EAAYASABEgLlk_D_BwE

"three institutions—USC, Penn, and Michigan—compete with each other on a regular basis."

USC, yes. Penn? No.

Marshall, Wharton & Ross

[Anonymous]

They have the same vibe in some ways but so do stanford duke and UVA They don't compete for students, there is a pretty clear hierarchy.

[Anonymous]

"three institutions—USC, Penn, and Michigan—compete with each other on a regular basis."

I can see that she will now push her client ED UM.

Wharton is T5 level difficulty. Then there is Stern. Ross is on the same level as Caroll BC. Marshall mostly west coast presence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"three institutions—USC, Penn, and Michigan—compete with each other on a regular basis."

I can see that she will now push her client ED UM.

Wharton is T5 level difficulty. Then there is Stern. Ross is on the same level as Caroll BC. Marshall mostly west coast presence.

Hardly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"three institutions—USC, Penn, and Michigan—compete with each other on a regular basis."

I can see that she will now push her client ED UM.

Wharton is T5 level difficulty. Then there is Stern. Ross is on the same level as Caroll BC. Marshall mostly west coast presence.

Ross consistently ranks above Stern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. Is Michigan eliminating EA?

If not, why would they be in any worse of a position with the high-stat kids?

I’ll use my DS as an example. He’s super high stats/rigor. His first choice is a private T10 and his second choice is Michigan. So he’s planning to ED at the private T10 and EA at Michigan (OOS).

If he gets in to the ED, he’ll pull the Michigan app. If he doesn’t, he’ll submit his other applications, and then decide among his admit in April.

How does Michigan’s decision to add ED make it more likely they’ll lose kids like my DS? He’s going to do exactly what he would have done if there was no ED, and they still have the same opportunity to accept/enroll him as they otherwise would have.

To me, this is actually an OPPORTUNITY for Michigan to snag more high status OOS kids in a more efficient way.

If Michigan were DS’s first choice, he’d be 100% thrill to apply ED - both to have the chance to lock it in by December (no no need to submit all the other applications) and more importantly because he’d want to show/prove to Michigan that they are indeed his first choice, not a back-up plan in case he doesn’t get into 5-10 other schools (which is a reasonable assumption to make given his stats.)

Mom of high stat/high rigor kid here in a neighboring state. My kid's plan was to EA to a few schools, including his first choice, Michigan. He could never ED Michigan as we need to see the final COA before committing. (The NPC, as I mentioned upthread, indicates we would probably receive a small grant to offset some of the tuition if accepted. 80k/year definitely not in our budget.) He received the email about ED today and says he will switch gears and do what your kid is doing: ED to a private that is need blind and meets 100 percent demonstrated need. Definitely not his first choice because it's a little closer to home and he'd prefer to be a few hours away.

For our family, it seems that Michigan will likely be off the table for him and that the priority will be wealthy OOS kids in ED and fewer seats left for barely-MC families like ours in EA. But I get why they'd do this. Better to lock in the high stat OOS and IS kids whose first choice is Michigan.

Also the kids who are gunning for Ivies and using Michigan as a back up likely won't ED to Michigan and then EA kids will also be competing with those kids. Thinking about the student at his school this year who swept all the top Ivies plus Stanford, was also admitted to UMich, which appeared to be their safety. This kid likely did REA to an Ivy, RD to the others, EA to Michigan.

What are you talking about? If Michigan does not give you the $ on the NPC in an ED admit, it is totally non-binding…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"three institutions—USC, Penn, and Michigan—compete with each other on a regular basis."

I can see that she will now push her client ED UM.

Wharton is T5 level difficulty. Then there is Stern. Ross is on the same level as Caroll BC. Marshall mostly west coast presence.

Ross consistently ranks above Stern.

Stop. No one cares about that stupid US news ranking.

Wharton;
Dyson, Stern, Sloan;
McDonough, Hass;
Ross is below all above.

[Anonymous]

Michigan OOS is so expensive that its applicant pool is already limited. UVA is the same way.

I think if you are worried about the cost then Michigan likely isn't going to be an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"three institutions—USC, Penn, and Michigan—compete with each other on a regular basis."

I can see that she will now push her client ED UM.

Wharton is T5 level difficulty. Then there is Stern. Ross is on the same level as Caroll BC. Marshall mostly west coast presence.

Ross consistently ranks above Stern.

Stop. No one cares about that stupid US news ranking.

Wharton;
Dyson, Stern, Sloan;
McDonough, Hass;
Ross is below all above.

DP but no, that’s absurd.

[Anonymous]

The Michigan haters are out today. What is it about the school that irritates some people up so much? It is almost comical reading these comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Michigan haters are out today. What is it about the school that irritates some people up so much? It is almost comical reading these comments.

There are always Michigan haters, they seem to hate that it is public yet still so popular and well regarded. Ignore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Michigan haters are out today. What is it about the school that irritates some people up so much? It is almost comical reading these comments.

There are always Michigan haters, they seem to hate that it is public yet still so popular and well regarded. Ignore.

Yep pretty much this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Michigan haters are out today. What is it about the school that irritates some people up so much? It is almost comical reading these comments.

There are always Michigan haters, they seem to hate that it is public yet still so popular and well regarded. Ignore.

Yep pretty much this.

Bc lots of Virginia moms envious of Michigan's stature for OOS applicants. As a NY mom, they are lucky their in-state isn't SUNY!

[Anonymous]

I don’t post any negativity, but I’m kind of a Michigan hater. I know it is completely unfair to paint an entire school by one brush, but I worked with a large cohort of the most insufferable arrogant grads and it left an impression. They acted like it was Harvard and they walked on water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who is interested in business and keeps mentioning Ross. While he has good grades / scores and plenty of EC (including leadership) he doesn’t have any projects/experience directly business related. Would that be a hard no for an ED to Ross?

My daughter did not have any projects directly related to business and got in and is thriving. I would apply and see what happens. She is having the best experience.