What is going to happen to the RTO?

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The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

Someone so smug should learn the difference between facts and opinions before spouting off online.

That seems to be a concept that many here are having difficulty with grasping. They will find out the hard way when they become obsolete.

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Anonymous wrote:If your "job" can be done at home, then it will likely be put on the chopping block and outsourced or eliminated.

Technology has defeated those jobs.

Eh. Everyone I know with professional jobs in the private sector can do their job at home a day or two a week. If being able to use a computer and email in your home office is the line then no job should be safe.

Those jobs will be replaced. Really it will return to physical labor jobs being the only secure ones, talking more complicated physical labor jobs, not robotic factory assembly line ones that robots can do.

It's so weird that you cling to a narrative that is both false and grim. A happy fantasy I would understand, but trying to push an idea that is bad for everyone and also demonstrably untrue is really odd.
I would love to know what you did for a living before you retired.

You're delusional. If AI can replace nurses, doctors, and lawyers, what makes you think your precious white collar job won't fall victim to AI? Even IT professionals are losing jobs to AI.

AI cannot replace nurses, doctors, and lawyers.

DP but sure it can, and already is in the stages of doing so.

Of those, nurses would be the least likely to be replaced, as they are doing physical labor that cannot be done by a computer, or even robotics at this point in time.

Doctors can easily be replaced by machines/booths that a patient is hooked up to, scanned, and a full physical exam performed on in just minutes, much better than a whole team of doctors could do in weeks. Virtual diagnosing is already common among the profession, and just the start of that trend.

Lawyer are the MOST susceptible to being replaced by AI of the ones you list, as AI can peruse millions of court cases in microseconds and counter argue a point, bring up an objection, and cite previous law in seconds. Something not even hundreds of human lawyers working for months on a case could do.

It is amazing how people don't realize all this. Mostly it is just fear and depression of uncertainty in their field of work.

Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. are not spending billions of dollars on AI tech just for kids to play with online, it will replace human workers in every area possible.

And this will be a good thing overall.

Just how people decried the use of tractors and machinery replacing slaves and workers, AI will replace humans in many fields of work.

I think this would be a good thing if normal people could reap the benefits with having easier and/or shortened workdays, but literally all the benefits will go to the large corporations. It’s not like the average American is suddenly going to have a good paying job with fewer hours. No, it will be fewer Americans with 40+ hour/week jobs to oversee the robots while the masses are unemployed and the birth rate continues to drop.

Not to mention it’s depressing to think about living on a world where we interact with robots for everything. While I wouldn’t mind a doctor who can use AI to research my medical conditions, I don’t want to be completely treated by a machine. I don’t even like the self checkout line at the grocery store. What a stupid world where we make ourselves functionally obsolete.

It's hard to say what direction it will take, perhaps multiple ones.

The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

I find it amusing how many on this site, and this very thread, seem to be in denial about the changes that are already happening.

Well most of us here do knowledge work, and AI cannot actually think. Maybe it will replace the very bottom rungs of work like legal document review.

Advances in AI tech are making exponential leaps and bounds. You should look into it.

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Anonymous wrote:If your "job" can be done at home, then it will likely be put on the chopping block and outsourced or eliminated.

Technology has defeated those jobs.

Eh. Everyone I know with professional jobs in the private sector can do their job at home a day or two a week. If being able to use a computer and email in your home office is the line then no job should be safe.

Those jobs will be replaced. Really it will return to physical labor jobs being the only secure ones, talking more complicated physical labor jobs, not robotic factory assembly line ones that robots can do.

It's so weird that you cling to a narrative that is both false and grim. A happy fantasy I would understand, but trying to push an idea that is bad for everyone and also demonstrably untrue is really odd.
I would love to know what you did for a living before you retired.

You're delusional. If AI can replace nurses, doctors, and lawyers, what makes you think your precious white collar job won't fall victim to AI? Even IT professionals are losing jobs to AI.

AI cannot replace nurses, doctors, and lawyers.

DP but sure it can, and already is in the stages of doing so.

Of those, nurses would be the least likely to be replaced, as they are doing physical labor that cannot be done by a computer, or even robotics at this point in time.

Doctors can easily be replaced by machines/booths that a patient is hooked up to, scanned, and a full physical exam performed on in just minutes, much better than a whole team of doctors could do in weeks. Virtual diagnosing is already common among the profession, and just the start of that trend.

Lawyer are the MOST susceptible to being replaced by AI of the ones you list, as AI can peruse millions of court cases in microseconds and counter argue a point, bring up an objection, and cite previous law in seconds. Something not even hundreds of human lawyers working for months on a case could do.

It is amazing how people don't realize all this. Mostly it is just fear and depression of uncertainty in their field of work.

Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. are not spending billions of dollars on AI tech just for kids to play with online, it will replace human workers in every area possible.

And this will be a good thing overall.

Just how people decried the use of tractors and machinery replacing slaves and workers, AI will replace humans in many fields of work.

I think this would be a good thing if normal people could reap the benefits with having easier and/or shortened workdays, but literally all the benefits will go to the large corporations. It’s not like the average American is suddenly going to have a good paying job with fewer hours. No, it will be fewer Americans with 40+ hour/week jobs to oversee the robots while the masses are unemployed and the birth rate continues to drop.

Not to mention it’s depressing to think about living on a world where we interact with robots for everything. While I wouldn’t mind a doctor who can use AI to research my medical conditions, I don’t want to be completely treated by a machine. I don’t even like the self checkout line at the grocery store. What a stupid world where we make ourselves functionally obsolete.

It's hard to say what direction it will take, perhaps multiple ones.

The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

I find it amusing how many on this site, and this very thread, seem to be in denial about the changes that are already happening.

AI is both bad as in poor quality and bad as in immoral. The only reason we'll see mass adoption is because so many fools willfully misunderstand how it does and doesn't work.

So yes it will likely change everything, but only because people are stupid, not because it's better or cheaper. It performs worse than humans, uses more energy, and cannot function without "free" stolen data that would be cost-prohibitive to pay for as required by law.

You think the rich will have AI doctors? No, that will be for the poors and they won't care how many die of obvious misdiagnosis by AI. The rich will get human service just like they get live people on the phone now, not the chat bots everyone hates.

You see, all you are doing is denying the reality of the situation and the future. That's fear that's causing you to do that.

Try embracing AI and robotics as a good progressive thing. Most non-manual labor jobs are really better off being transferred to emerging tech, and no more need for offices, commutes to those offices, etc.

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It is kind of funny the number of meetings and the number of people at meetings grew with WFH. Now back at the office, they don't have enough conference rooms and the ones they do have aren't big enough. So, they all telework from their office anyway.

Sharing data at a meeting. Well, let me connect my laptop wait for it.... It does make for an awkward dynamic for the WFH and WFO. I used to be able to multitask and tune out the speakers and topics that weren't relevant. OK now I have to go in for an in-office meeting, and it would be rude to multitask. But at the same time, most of the time being exceptionally productive.

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The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

Someone so smug should learn the difference between facts and opinions before spouting off online.

That seems to be a concept that many here are having difficulty with grasping. They will find out the hard way when they become obsolete.

And you still don’t grasp the difference.

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The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

Someone so smug should learn the difference between facts and opinions before spouting off online.

That seems to be a concept that many here are having difficulty with grasping. They will find out the hard way when they become obsolete.

And you still don’t grasp the difference.

That's you projecting, and it bouncing back at you. Learn more about the field.

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Anonymous wrote:It is kind of funny the number of meetings and the number of people at meetings grew with WFH. Now back at the office, they don't have enough conference rooms and the ones they do have aren't big enough. So, they all telework from their office anyway.

Sharing data at a meeting. Well, let me connect my laptop wait for it.... It does make for an awkward dynamic for the WFH and WFO. I used to be able to multitask and tune out the speakers and topics that weren't relevant. OK now I have to go in for an in-office meeting, and it would be rude to multitask. But at the same time, most of the time being exceptionally productive.

Just demonstrates how useless most of those conference meetings are and always were. Huge waste of time.

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The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

Someone so smug should learn the difference between facts and opinions before spouting off online.

That seems to be a concept that many here are having difficulty with grasping. They will find out the hard way when they become obsolete.

And you still don’t grasp the difference.

That's you projecting, and it bouncing back at you. Learn more about the field.

I know you are, but what am I?

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The cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.

Someone so smug should learn the difference between facts and opinions before spouting off online.

That seems to be a concept that many here are having difficulty with grasping. They will find out the hard way when they become obsolete.

And you still don’t grasp the difference.

That's you projecting, and it bouncing back at you. Learn more about the field.

You said “the cold hard facts though are that AI and robotics will revolutionize the workforce as much if not more than the mechanization of society when coal/gas came about and the Industrial Revolution prior to it.” Is that statement a fact? No.

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Anonymous wrote:5 days in office plus commute times eat up a lot of time, energy and life. There is no energy left Monday to Friday to enjoy anything else. Seems like we went back 20 years in time at the office desk sitting era.
The main folks to lose out will be women and children. Moms who have to sit in office 5 days 59 hours a week with long commutes will not be able to pay attention to the needs of her young children and family.

What about dads?

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the administration not understand 5 days in office does not make sense? What is the agenda behind RTO?

People were not being honest with their hours. Where have you been?

Where is the proof that people weren’t being honest? If it’s such a widespread problem to the point the entire government has to be prevented from teleworking, there must be a ton of concrete evidence they can present to justify the policy. Why haven’t they?

Why are only govt employees called back 5 days a week? Why are private companies employees still hybrid 2-3 days in office or 100% remote. It’s not fair.

Many are back five days a week.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the administration not understand 5 days in office does not make sense? What is the agenda behind RTO?

People were not being honest with their hours. Where have you been?

Where is the proof that people weren’t being honest? If it’s such a widespread problem to the point the entire government has to be prevented from teleworking, there must be a ton of concrete evidence they can present to justify the policy. Why haven’t they?

Why are only govt employees called back 5 days a week? Why are private companies employees still hybrid 2-3 days in office or 100% remote. It’s not fair.

Many are back five days a week.

Many are not. Why are those companies able to operate just fine with hybrid schedules?

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Anonymous wrote:It is kind of funny the number of meetings and the number of people at meetings grew with WFH. Now back at the office, they don't have enough conference rooms and the ones they do have aren't big enough. So, they all telework from their office anyway.

Sharing data at a meeting. Well, let me connect my laptop wait for it.... It does make for an awkward dynamic for the WFH and WFO. I used to be able to multitask and tune out the speakers and topics that weren't relevant. OK now I have to go in for an in-office meeting, and it would be rude to multitask. But at the same time, most of the time being exceptionally productive.

Just demonstrates how useless most of those conference meetings are and always were. Huge waste of time.

I die in meetings. Also, no one knows how to be concise, they just bloviate all meeting long to hear themselves talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the administration not understand 5 days in office does not make sense? What is the agenda behind RTO?

People were not being honest with their hours. Where have you been?

Where is the proof that people weren’t being honest? If it’s such a widespread problem to the point the entire government has to be prevented from teleworking, there must be a ton of concrete evidence they can present to justify the policy. Why haven’t they?

Why are only govt employees called back 5 days a week? Why are private companies employees still hybrid 2-3 days in office or 100% remote. It’s not fair.

Many are back five days a week.

Many are not. Why are those companies able to operate just fine with hybrid schedules?

Because those companies have made a decision to trust their employees... and the employees do not abuse that trust.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the administration not understand 5 days in office does not make sense? What is the agenda behind RTO?

People were not being honest with their hours. Where have you been?

Where is the proof that people weren’t being honest? If it’s such a widespread problem to the point the entire government has to be prevented from teleworking, there must be a ton of concrete evidence they can present to justify the policy. Why haven’t they?

Why are only govt employees called back 5 days a week? Why are private companies employees still hybrid 2-3 days in office or 100% remote. It’s not fair.

Many are back five days a week.

Many are not. Why are those companies able to operate just fine with hybrid schedules?

Because those companies have made a decision to trust their employees... and the employees do not abuse that trust.

And federal agencies can do the same thing. Thanks for clarifying. It’s proof Trump’s RTO policy is nothing but a pretext for hollowing out our government. Glad we agree.