U of St Andrews - Admissions per State

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of us with kids interested in St Andrews, came accross the data for US Applications and Acceptances per state between 2021 and 2023.

Some interesting Stats for those who care:

Number of Enrolled students from the US:

2021: 384
2022: 524
2023: 471

NY and CA have on avg 1/3 of the US enrollment (about 50/50 between both states)
VA, TX, NJ, MA and CT account for roughly another 1/3. (Almost evenly divided with CT a little ahead of the avg).

But the one interesting stat is to look for which of these states outperforms their offers.
For example, California averaged 15.3% of the total US applications over the 3 year period, but accounted for 16% of the offers.
Besides California, Connecticut, MA and VA outperformed their applications.
The other ones (NY, TX, NJ) all underperformed.

Another interesting find is that in 2023 almost 50% of those getting offers from Connecticut end up enrolling.
The numbers for every other state is about 33% for 2023. Wonder why CT is so ahead of the game here with enrollment?

Considering St Andrews concentrate their US efforts in NY and California these findings are not surprising. Also not surprising that the vast majority of placements in the US are in NY and CA, with DC, Chicago and Dallas a distant 3rd, 4th and 5th.

500 Americans per yr. Wow didnt realize it was this much. Almost as much as the whole class at privates like Pepperdine (about 800)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those deciding..my son attends St Andrews and loves it! He went to a Big 3 in the DMV and said he feels well prepared.
Some notes:
Socially it's fantastic- he has friends from all over the world with a core group who are also from the US. Plenty of people from the DMV but more from the northeast and CA. They have something from freshmen akin to fraternities and sororities called academic families which really helps freshmen make friends with upperlassmen.
The town is small (and incredible SAFE) but there are lots of restaurants and pubs and they go to Edinburgh which is 45 min by train.
He studies only things he is interested in. This is not a liberal arts format. You go deep into one or two subjects like the British system.
He travels cheaply all over Europe. He has been to France, Spain, Morocco, Amsterdam and Prague and he is just a sophomore.
RE the above-mentioned kids dressed up for an event...I can tell the PP there are TONS of dress-up social events balls, societies, raves.
People still dress up in the UK my son has two Tuxes and a suit and blazers, and he wears all of them.
They also wear their red robes to university events aka Hogwarts.
It is A FANTASTIC place for an adventurous independent kid who knows what he or she wants to study.

Same here with DD. She graduates soon….
She had a blast. While not a liberal arts format she did like the ability to switch/add majors. She started as IR. But was able to take History and and Econ as her other 2 modules first 2 years….she is now graduating as a History Major. Going back to the us to attend Georgetown Law in the fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To those deciding..my son attends St Andrews and loves it! He went to a Big 3 in the DMV and said he feels well prepared.
Some notes:
Socially it's fantastic- he has friends from all over the world with a core group who are also from the US. Plenty of people from the DMV but more from the northeast and CA. They have something from freshmen akin to fraternities and sororities called academic families which really helps freshmen make friends with upperlassmen.
The town is small (and incredible SAFE) but there are lots of restaurants and pubs and they go to Edinburgh which is 45 min by train.
He studies only things he is interested in. This is not a liberal arts format. You go deep into one or two subjects like the British system.
He travels cheaply all over Europe. He has been to France, Spain, Morocco, Amsterdam and Prague and he is just a sophomore.
RE the above-mentioned kids dressed up for an event...I can tell the PP there are TONS of dress-up social events balls, societies, raves.
People still dress up in the UK my son has two Tuxes and a suit and blazers, and he wears all of them.
They also wear their red robes to university events aka Hogwarts.
It is A FANTASTIC place for an adventurous independent kid who knows what he or she wants to study.

DD is having a real hard time deciding between a t25 and St Andrews. Her heart is a St Andrews, but that has been a recent love for her…..her whole life she wanted to attend Dad’s Alma mater…. She also thinks she will have a better opportunity to double major at Sta vs her US school. Decision is tough.

[Anonymous]

Is it just that she wants to take a lot of classes in two specific subjects and is concerned that the distribution requirements at the US school will get in the way? Or she thinks that being able to say, "I majored in X AND Y" is important.

My kid is deciding between St Andrews and 3 T25 schools and McGill. Is that unusual? (Well, at this point, it's just St A's versus another school).

[Anonymous]

At St Andrews she can double in IR and Management. That is just impossible at the t25.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of us with kids interested in St Andrews, came accross the data for US Applications and Acceptances per state between 2021 and 2023.

Some interesting Stats for those who care:

Number of Enrolled students from the US:

2021: 384
2022: 524
2023: 471

NY and CA have on avg 1/3 of the US enrollment (about 50/50 between both states)
VA, TX, NJ, MA and CT account for roughly another 1/3. (Almost evenly divided with CT a little ahead of the avg).

But the one interesting stat is to look for which of these states outperforms their offers.
For example, California averaged 15.3% of the total US applications over the 3 year period, but accounted for 16% of the offers.
Besides California, Connecticut, MA and VA outperformed their applications.
The other ones (NY, TX, NJ) all underperformed.

Another interesting find is that in 2023 almost 50% of those getting offers from Connecticut end up enrolling.
The numbers for every other state is about 33% for 2023. Wonder why CT is so ahead of the game here with enrollment?

Considering St Andrews concentrate their US efforts in NY and California these findings are not surprising. Also not surprising that the vast majority of placements in the US are in NY and CA, with DC, Chicago and Dallas a distant 3rd, 4th and 5th.

Wonder how long it will take for their MUKGA to start blaming their problems on American students going to school in the UK…..MAGA cant stand foreigners here…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of us with kids interested in St Andrews, came accross the data for US Applications and Acceptances per state between 2021 and 2023.

Some interesting Stats for those who care:

Number of Enrolled students from the US:

2021: 384
2022: 524
2023: 471

NY and CA have on avg 1/3 of the US enrollment (about 50/50 between both states)
VA, TX, NJ, MA and CT account for roughly another 1/3. (Almost evenly divided with CT a little ahead of the avg).

But the one interesting stat is to look for which of these states outperforms their offers.
For example, California averaged 15.3% of the total US applications over the 3 year period, but accounted for 16% of the offers.
Besides California, Connecticut, MA and VA outperformed their applications.
The other ones (NY, TX, NJ) all underperformed.

Another interesting find is that in 2023 almost 50% of those getting offers from Connecticut end up enrolling.
The numbers for every other state is about 33% for 2023. Wonder why CT is so ahead of the game here with enrollment?

Considering St Andrews concentrate their US efforts in NY and California these findings are not surprising. Also not surprising that the vast majority of placements in the US are in NY and CA, with DC, Chicago and Dallas a distant 3rd, 4th and 5th.

Wonder how long it will take for their MUKGA to start blaming their problems on American students going to school in the UK…..MAGA cant stand foreigners here…

They already do….just google UK Universities and Foreign students

[Anonymous]

Are the kids who go there very elite? I'm hearing there's a ton of travel every weekend

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess their Frehsman class is about 2000 kids. So there is a lot of Americans there…

Edinburgh has more Americans, but a much smaller % of the total student population.

Edinburgh has about 1500 Americans in undergraduate programs. About the same as St Andrews with roughly 400/year.Those 2 have the most number of American students anywhere in the UK.

[Anonymous]

Easy admits !

[Anonymous]

Good for Trust Funders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for Trust Funders

What a dumb comment.
We spend $50k per year with my kid at St Andrews. his other Private options in the US were $80k+ per year. That is $120k in savings over 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Trust Funders

What a dumb comment.
We spend $50k per year with my kid at St Andrews. his other Private options in the US were $80k+ per year. That is $120k in savings over 4 years.

How are you spending $50k? Can’t remember if it was this thread or another, but it seemed like costs added up were putting it closer to $60-65 when you added room, board, health, travel, etc. I would LOVE it to be $50k. We are headed over this weekend to make the decision. Other choice is CU Boulder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Trust Funders

What a dumb comment.
We spend $50k per year with my kid at St Andrews. his other Private options in the US were $80k+ per year. That is $120k in savings over 4 years.

How are you spending $50k? Can’t remember if it was this thread or another, but it seemed like costs added up were putting it closer to $60-65 when you added room, board, health, travel, etc. I would LOVE it to be $50k. We are headed over this weekend to make the decision. Other choice is CU Boulder.

DS is finishing up his 3rd year. Tuition/Room/Board was like $51k this year. I have an international health insurance plan that covers him on top of the min required. Travel is irrelevant for us. We live in Seattle….travel to the East Coast schools he got in would have been almost as much as getting to Edinburgh….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Trust Funders

What a dumb comment.
We spend $50k per year with my kid at St Andrews. his other Private options in the US were $80k+ per year. That is $120k in savings over 4 years.

How are you spending $50k? Can’t remember if it was this thread or another, but it seemed like costs added up were putting it closer to $60-65 when you added room, board, health, travel, etc. I would LOVE it to be $50k. We are headed over this weekend to make the decision. Other choice is CU Boulder.

DS is finishing up his 3rd year. Tuition/Room/Board was like $51k this year. I have an international health insurance plan that covers him on top of the min required. Travel is irrelevant for us. We live in Seattle….travel to the East Coast schools he got in would have been almost as much as getting to Edinburgh….

Did he live in dorms all 3 years? Can you comment on housing availability? Housing options? Multiple posts about StA have said housing can be a challenge. Thanks!