Tuckahoe Boots Machine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

NP.

I understand that feelings are strong about this topic, and I appreciate your perspective. My intention was never to propagate false rumors. I am sharing my experiences and observations, just like everyone else on this thread. It's important that we can have a civil discussion about the changes and challenges we face, including those regarding location changes. Let's try to support one another as a community. - AI bot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

I actually don’t think it’s the Machine parents, it’s people who for whatever reason don’t like this coach. Whether it’s because they are from another D1 team, or are at Tuckahoe and their kids don’t swim A meets so they are salty, or they are at York and their kids are not among the fast swimmers he has that everyone raves about so they are bitter.

[Anonymous]

"the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired."

He may very well be an excellent coach.....but he also fosters this....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny as an outsider. People dislike him so much that he is the coach at the best HS and summer teams in the area, and had a nice job at a top club team. He also was handpicked to run the aquatics program at tuckahoe and now has loyal followers willing to join him there. Sounds like people actually can’t get enough of this guy. But a few people here on the boards have a bone to pick. My guess is a combo of York/machine/overlee people

Love your comment!!

Not the PP but am an impacted machine parent. I think I speak for a few others when I say we don’t care enough about T (or even know of him) to comment about good coach/bad coach/good person/bad person blah blah blah.

Also an impacted Machine parent and agree. Not sure why some posters are taking it in a direction of personally attacking him.

Question for you as an affected machine parent - are you considering switching to his new club?

I am the previous poster, sorry I don't know the cool forum lingo to say that shorthand. My kids really like their current coaches and we'll probably stay if not super inconvenient, but that's a decision we'll have to make when we have more information weeks from now.

As for the later comments on winning at any cost, I've never seen that from Torey or any of his teams. I have personally seen him discuss the importance of sportsmanship and winning the right way. I heard him make those comments at all star relays last summer for a specific example. I've also seen how he coaches Yorktown and while there are obnoxious kids (and parents) at any team, I have seen him prioritize sportsmanship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

York parent here. My child does not swim at Yorktown, but when I mentioned Torin was going to leave to start his own club, the reaction was a double fist pump (a la Ace Ventura) because “Torrey is a jerk”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

York parent here. My child does not swim at Yorktown, but when I mentioned Torin was going to leave to start his own club, the reaction was a double fist pump (a la Ace Ventura) because “Torrey is a jerk”.

Why would you even share a rude reaction like this? I think it says a lot about you and whoever did the double fist pump.

So so negative!

People on this forum should share opinions on the machine transfer not constantly attack Torey’s coaching, personality, and him as a person.

Where we are as a society is evident in these negative, rude posts.

[Anonymous]

NVSL parent here (not Tuckahoe).

I want to reiterate that all I have ever seen at the meets with Torey is fostering sportsmanship, support, and not a cutthroat attitude. I saw him send a child back to shake hands with a competitor after a hard fought swim where the Tuckahoe swimmer lost. I also saw him talk to an older swimmer who was over celebrating after a win at a different meet to tell them to cool it.

While he may be intense from my limited interaction he does not seem to be fostering some ultra competitive win at all costs mentality. The kids at Tuckahoe at the meet seemed to genuinely be having a good time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

I actually don’t think it’s the Machine parents, it’s people who for whatever reason don’t like this coach. Whether it’s because they are from another D1 team, or are at Tuckahoe and their kids don’t swim A meets so they are salty, or they are at York and their kids are not among the fast swimmers he has that everyone raves about so they are bitter.

OR our kids swim at York and we have deliberately avoided groups he coaches. I would rather travel to a further location than have him coach my children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

York parent here. My child does not swim at Yorktown, but when I mentioned Torin was going to leave to start his own club, the reaction was a double fist pump (a la Ace Ventura) because “Torrey is a jerk”.

Why would you even share a rude reaction like this? I think it says a lot about you and whoever did the double fist pump.

So so negative!

People on this forum should share opinions on the machine transfer not constantly attack Torey’s coaching, personality, and him as a person.

Where we are as a society is evident in these negative, rude posts.

Why share? I replied to a response with his proponent trying to silence/ delegitimize those that have had bad experiences with him by saying things such as “I can tell your kids I’ve never swim for him”.

You don’t even know him you, you must be a bitter Machine parent, etc.

And would you want to know the whole back story of someone starting a club that your kid might join?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired."

He may very well be an excellent coach.....but he also fosters this....

Swimming against Yorktown is always the most miserable meet of the year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NVSL parent here (not Tuckahoe).

I want to reiterate that all I have ever seen at the meets with Torey is fostering sportsmanship, support, and not a cutthroat attitude. I saw him send a child back to shake hands with a competitor after a hard fought swim where the Tuckahoe swimmer lost. I also saw him talk to an older swimmer who was over celebrating after a win at a different meet to tell them to cool it.

While he may be intense from my limited interaction he does not seem to be fostering some ultra competitive win at all costs mentality. The kids at Tuckahoe at the meet seemed to genuinely be having a good time.

Interesting. I have watched Tuckahoe coaches encourage their swimmers to pound the water to make waves after they win a race (while other swimmers are still finishing) and spit water into the air….that behavior starts at the top….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired."

He may very well be an excellent coach.....but he also fosters this....

Swimming against Yorktown is always the most miserable meet of the year.

Really? The high school meets are a snooze. The kids all stand around socializing and the parents are barely paying attention. The least intense atmosphere a person could imagine. What is so terrible about them?

I agree with PP people may be deciding whether to sign up with him. What I have heard out of teenagers mouths who actually swim for him is many of them feel ignored by him and like they have zero connection to him. He appears to delegate the whole getting to know the kids part or developing swimmers with potential who aren't there yet to assistant coaches. Little to no interaction on actual swimming instruction for many kids. I do think he says the correct things out loud in all team settings to parents to indicate sportsmanship is a priority. So pretty neutral about him as a person really, but I think this is something to know as a parent. He's invested in and paying attention to the top swimmers. Which isn't a crime. But take note depending on where your kid is in the sport.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

York parent here. My child does not swim at Yorktown, but when I mentioned Torin was going to leave to start his own club, the reaction was a double fist pump (a la Ace Ventura) because “Torrey is a jerk”.

Why would you even share a rude reaction like this? I think it says a lot about you and whoever did the double fist pump.

So so negative!

People on this forum should share opinions on the machine transfer not constantly attack Torey’s coaching, personality, and him as a person.

Where we are as a society is evident in these negative, rude posts.

He's running a business and wanting to attract customers. People are talking about him in his capacity as a swim coach. Seems fair to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:T is not everyone's cup of tea. He is all business (even at 10 and under age) and the sportsmanship of Yorktown and Tuckahoe leave a bit to be desired. If you want the hyper competitive, succeed at all costs mentality, his new team might be for you.

I can tell based on this statement that your kids have never swam for him. Why continue to propagate false rumors when you have probably only seen him on deck at meets? Give it up - 50% of the comments on this thread are by Machine parents who are so horribly inconvenienced to have to drive to a different site next year. It’s honestly pathetic.

York parent here. My child does not swim at Yorktown, but when I mentioned Torin was going to leave to start his own club, the reaction was a double fist pump (a la Ace Ventura) because “Torrey is a jerk”.

I’d question your child about what makes him believe an adult is ‘a jerk.’ Maybe he is used to being coddled at home perhaps. Too bad, I’ve found all the York coaches to be extremely supportive of each other and the team atmosphere. York as a whole and T fully included, does the best job out of all the local PVS teams in trying to translate that summer like atmosphere to club swim.