Two dogs killed & two women injured

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

I agree that I also found this shocking - but some poster defended it by saying that the dog was probably neglected and hungry.

I've heard of, and known, hungry dogs and they have not killed and eaten another dog.

There are example cited upthread of dogs eating their deceased human owners, so, you know, if you wanted to educate yourself, the resources have literally been provided for you.

In general, that doesn't happen immediately. Dogs will wait by their deceased owners for a long time before they consider taking a bite (with very rare exceptions).

Continue attacking everyone who finds this behavior horrifying. You're clearly enjoying yourself, and it's good that someone is, I guess.

The article cited upthread starts the feast at about 45 minute post-mortem, but by all means, keep lashing out at me so you don't have to challenge your erroneous assumptions and update your position when presented with new information.

I can spoon-feed you facts, with sources, and you'll still reject anything that doesn't fit your biased narrative. That's a you problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been bitten once. By a lab.

Couldn't possibly have happened! Only pit bulls bite! Are you sure it actually bit you? Maybe it was 1% pit!!!

-pitbull psychosis sufferers

it's 35% of bites are pits or rotts
75% of fatal attacks are pits or rotts

Do your own research and provide stats that show i am wrong.

"I have no stats. If you want stats, you do the work I'm unwilling to do and unpack my ignorance for me. The reward for this unpaid labor will be me continuing to blather on about my crappy take, learning nothing, because I love my ignorance and have no good sense."

Tempting, but... no.

No thanks... any research I provide you you are going to make some inane assertion that the source is false. You were provide court cases all over the US that showed pits are dangerous, they were bread to be so, owners can't undo breeding... but "you are a volunteer" so that makes you an expert.

But you've only shown you are an expert in ignorance and the inability to take part in a conversation where you hold up your end of proving your point.

Your "research" does not show this point. At all. It also lumps all the dogs that 'look pit' under the same label. And here you are, lashing out at me instead of patching the holes in your own argument, which is why I already declined.

Be ignorant, if you like. I'd prefer you were also quiet, but you're not my responsibility (praise be).

The reality is pits were breed to fight and that is still in their breeding and your liberal heart is not going to stop the fact that this breed is dangerous (as well as a few others).

I don't think we should kill them but I do think their owners should have to prove every 2 years their dog can be in an area with other dogs and not attack.

If they attack they can't have the dog.

They also have a high prey drive and are easily triggered to attack in seemingly innocuous situations.

So do greyhounds

Let me know how many news articles you can find about greyhounds killing other dogs.

Took all of 20 seconds, slacker: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-greyhounds-attack-and-kill-chihuahua-in-coventry-caught-on-camera/ar-BB1gX3CE

Complete with video. Dogs off leash, the on-leash dogs not under proper control... all the variables cited above, no "pit bulls"

Your move, chump.

Greyhounds have a high prey drive. But they didn't eat the poor Chihuahua.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

I agree that I also found this shocking - but some poster defended it by saying that the dog was probably neglected and hungry.

I've heard of, and known, hungry dogs and they have not killed and eaten another dog.

There are example cited upthread of dogs eating their deceased human owners, so, you know, if you wanted to educate yourself, the resources have literally been provided for you.

In general, that doesn't happen immediately. Dogs will wait by their deceased owners for a long time before they consider taking a bite (with very rare exceptions).

Continue attacking everyone who finds this behavior horrifying. You're clearly enjoying yourself, and it's good that someone is, I guess.

The article cited upthread starts the feast at about 45 minute post-mortem, but by all means, keep lashing out at me so you don't have to challenge your erroneous assumptions and update your position when presented with new information.

I can spoon-feed you facts, with sources, and you'll still reject anything that doesn't fit your biased narrative. That's a you problem.

I know a dog who was by her deceased owner's body for days without food, guarding him. This is common. You posted the rare exception.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

This happened in my neighborhood, and I know the owners of the victim dog, a very sweet small/medium doodle mix that was always leashed on walks. The grapevine says the aggressor dog was a pit that apparently a neighborhood family was fostering (and doing a shockingly poor job of that, clearly).

People are out walking their dogs constantly around here, and everyone is shaken up and feeling horrible that our neighbor and her lovely dog had to endure this. We are all thinking about what we would or should have done if it happened to us. Does everyone else walk around their neighborhoods with bear or pepper spray just in case? Are those actually effective in dog attack scenarios?

Oh, goody. Gossip. That'll help.

This information is actually responsive to the thread topic, unlike the bizarre rants from the pit apologists.

I’m curious about what others do, if anything, to be prepared should they or their dog be attacked by a dangerous animal in their neighborhood?

1) leash your dog (no retractable leashes. 6ft max, 4 is better)
2) keep your dog under your control (by your side, quiet, focused, not wandering off-trail, not barking at passers-by)
3) stay alert and scan for hazards. You are on-duty. No headphones, no phone, stay present, eyes scanning for hazards (the more time you have to respond, the better your response is likely to be)
4) carry dog repel spray (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/REPELLENT-Repeller-Agressive-Attack-BICYCLE/dp/B01FYAIE80) and/or pepper spray and, most importantly, know how to use it
5) carry a walking stick or other 'break stick' in case you need to break up a fight so you're not using your hands/arms

But really? the first 3 will keep you safe. Most people invite trouble with an off-leash dog, or a dog that's too far outside their control, don't train their dogs not to bark ("don't start none, won't be none" applies in the dog world, too), and are half up their own backsides, talking on the phone, or texting, or...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

I agree that I also found this shocking - but some poster defended it by saying that the dog was probably neglected and hungry.

I've heard of, and known, hungry dogs and they have not killed and eaten another dog.

There are example cited upthread of dogs eating their deceased human owners, so, you know, if you wanted to educate yourself, the resources have literally been provided for you.

In general, that doesn't happen immediately. Dogs will wait by their deceased owners for a long time before they consider taking a bite (with very rare exceptions).

Continue attacking everyone who finds this behavior horrifying. You're clearly enjoying yourself, and it's good that someone is, I guess.

The article cited upthread starts the feast at about 45 minute post-mortem, but by all means, keep lashing out at me so you don't have to challenge your erroneous assumptions and update your position when presented with new information.

I can spoon-feed you facts, with sources, and you'll still reject anything that doesn't fit your biased narrative. That's a you problem.

I know a dog who was by her deceased owner's body for days without food, guarding him. This is common. You posted the rare exception.

The incident this thread is about is also a rare exception, sweetie.

[Anonymous]

Who are you pitbull apologists anyway? Seriously, out of all the dog breeds that exist why have one that was bred to lock its jaws down onto its prey? You all think you’re so smart and know more than everyone else. But you clearly are not educated about the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies on the influence of genetics on behavioral traits in mammals. Generations of selected breeding in the past are not just magically erased because you feel like it. Same goes for the lasting effects of early life neglect, and trauma on the stress response of mammals. Those effects are transgenerational due to epigenetics.

Is it some twisted form of virtue signaling that compels you to own and defend these dogs? And yeah, they are ugly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

I agree that I also found this shocking - but some poster defended it by saying that the dog was probably neglected and hungry.

I've heard of, and known, hungry dogs and they have not killed and eaten another dog.

There are example cited upthread of dogs eating their deceased human owners, so, you know, if you wanted to educate yourself, the resources have literally been provided for you.

In general, that doesn't happen immediately. Dogs will wait by their deceased owners for a long time before they consider taking a bite (with very rare exceptions).

Continue attacking everyone who finds this behavior horrifying. You're clearly enjoying yourself, and it's good that someone is, I guess.

The article cited upthread starts the feast at about 45 minute post-mortem, but by all means, keep lashing out at me so you don't have to challenge your erroneous assumptions and update your position when presented with new information.

I can spoon-feed you facts, with sources, and you'll still reject anything that doesn't fit your biased narrative. That's a you problem.

I know a dog who was by her deceased owner's body for days without food, guarding him. This is common. You posted the rare exception.

The incident this thread is about is also a rare exception, sweetie.

You've finally admitted it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have been bitten once. By a lab.

Couldn't possibly have happened! Only pit bulls bite! Are you sure it actually bit you? Maybe it was 1% pit!!!

-pitbull psychosis sufferers

it's 35% of bites are pits or rotts
75% of fatal attacks are pits or rotts

Do your own research and provide stats that show i am wrong.

"I have no stats. If you want stats, you do the work I'm unwilling to do and unpack my ignorance for me. The reward for this unpaid labor will be me continuing to blather on about my crappy take, learning nothing, because I love my ignorance and have no good sense."

Tempting, but... no.

No thanks... any research I provide you you are going to make some inane assertion that the source is false. You were provide court cases all over the US that showed pits are dangerous, they were bread to be so, owners can't undo breeding... but "you are a volunteer" so that makes you an expert.

But you've only shown you are an expert in ignorance and the inability to take part in a conversation where you hold up your end of proving your point.

Your "research" does not show this point. At all. It also lumps all the dogs that 'look pit' under the same label. And here you are, lashing out at me instead of patching the holes in your own argument, which is why I already declined.

Be ignorant, if you like. I'd prefer you were also quiet, but you're not my responsibility (praise be).

The reality is pits were breed to fight and that is still in their breeding and your liberal heart is not going to stop the fact that this breed is dangerous (as well as a few others).

I don't think we should kill them but I do think their owners should have to prove every 2 years their dog can be in an area with other dogs and not attack.

If they attack they can't have the dog.

They also have a high prey drive and are easily triggered to attack in seemingly innocuous situations.

So do greyhounds

Let me know how many news articles you can find about greyhounds killing other dogs.

Took all of 20 seconds, slacker: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-greyhounds-attack-and-kill-chihuahua-in-coventry-caught-on-camera/ar-BB1gX3CE

Complete with video. Dogs off leash, the on-leash dogs not under proper control... all the variables cited above, no "pit bulls"

Your move, chump.

Greyhounds have a high prey drive. But they didn't eat the poor Chihuahua.

More goalpost moving from the losers who can't just take the L and learn from it. You asked for an article about greyhounds killing dogs, and one was near-immediately provided for you. Do you adjust your position based on this new information? No.

This is a you problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who are you pitbull apologists anyway? Seriously, out of all the dog breeds that exist why have one that was bred to lock its jaws down onto its prey? You all think you’re so smart and know more than everyone else. But you clearly are not educated about the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies on the influence of genetics on behavioral traits in mammals. Generations of selected breeding in the past are not just magically erased because you feel like it. Same goes for the lasting effects of early life neglect, and trauma on the stress response of mammals. Those effects are transgenerational due to epigenetics.

Is it some twisted form of virtue signaling that compels you to own and defend these dogs? And yeah, they are ugly.

GTFOH with your posturing about "the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies" you haven't read and can't cite.

Some people like "pit bulls". Why is that such a problem for you, personally, that you're willing to show your whole ass about it like this? Talk about twisted...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

This happened in my neighborhood, and I know the owners of the victim dog, a very sweet small/medium doodle mix that was always leashed on walks. The grapevine says the aggressor dog was a pit that apparently a neighborhood family was fostering (and doing a shockingly poor job of that, clearly).

People are out walking their dogs constantly around here, and everyone is shaken up and feeling horrible that our neighbor and her lovely dog had to endure this. We are all thinking about what we would or should have done if it happened to us. Does everyone else walk around their neighborhoods with bear or pepper spray just in case? Are those actually effective in dog attack scenarios?

Oh, goody. Gossip. That'll help.

This information is actually responsive to the thread topic, unlike the bizarre rants from the pit apologists.

I’m curious about what others do, if anything, to be prepared should they or their dog be attacked by a dangerous animal in their neighborhood?

1) leash your dog (no retractable leashes. 6ft max, 4 is better)
2) keep your dog under your control (by your side, quiet, focused, not wandering off-trail, not barking at passers-by)
3) stay alert and scan for hazards. You are on-duty. No headphones, no phone, stay present, eyes scanning for hazards (the more time you have to respond, the better your response is likely to be)
4) carry dog repel spray (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/REPELLENT-Repeller-Agressive-Attack-BICYCLE/dp/B01FYAIE80) and/or pepper spray and, most importantly, know how to use it
5) carry a walking stick or other 'break stick' in case you need to break up a fight so you're not using your hands/arms

But really? the first 3 will keep you safe. Most people invite trouble with an off-leash dog, or a dog that's too far outside their control, don't train their dogs not to bark ("don't start none, won't be none" applies in the dog world, too), and are half up their own backsides, talking on the phone, or texting, or...

Thanks, PP. I really appreciate this. I don’t have a dog, but walk all the time and plan to be prepared going forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

I agree that I also found this shocking - but some poster defended it by saying that the dog was probably neglected and hungry.

I've heard of, and known, hungry dogs and they have not killed and eaten another dog.

There are example cited upthread of dogs eating their deceased human owners, so, you know, if you wanted to educate yourself, the resources have literally been provided for you.

In general, that doesn't happen immediately. Dogs will wait by their deceased owners for a long time before they consider taking a bite (with very rare exceptions).

Continue attacking everyone who finds this behavior horrifying. You're clearly enjoying yourself, and it's good that someone is, I guess.

The article cited upthread starts the feast at about 45 minute post-mortem, but by all means, keep lashing out at me so you don't have to challenge your erroneous assumptions and update your position when presented with new information.

I can spoon-feed you facts, with sources, and you'll still reject anything that doesn't fit your biased narrative. That's a you problem.

I know a dog who was by her deceased owner's body for days without food, guarding him. This is common. You posted the rare exception.

The incident this thread is about is also a rare exception, sweetie.

You've finally admitted it.

Finally admitted that a thread based on a news article that had to add "pit bull" without citation is thin af and only sensational because of how infrequently this sort of thing actually happens?

That's been my position all along. Who are you even talking to at this point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

This happened in my neighborhood, and I know the owners of the victim dog, a very sweet small/medium doodle mix that was always leashed on walks. The grapevine says the aggressor dog was a pit that apparently a neighborhood family was fostering (and doing a shockingly poor job of that, clearly).

People are out walking their dogs constantly around here, and everyone is shaken up and feeling horrible that our neighbor and her lovely dog had to endure this. We are all thinking about what we would or should have done if it happened to us. Does everyone else walk around their neighborhoods with bear or pepper spray just in case? Are those actually effective in dog attack scenarios?

Oh, goody. Gossip. That'll help.

Lol. If your foster dog attacks a neighbor and her dog and KILLS her dog—her sweet dog that the neighbors knew and liked—you can be damn sure the people will talk about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

This happened in my neighborhood, and I know the owners of the victim dog, a very sweet small/medium doodle mix that was always leashed on walks. The grapevine says the aggressor dog was a pit that apparently a neighborhood family was fostering (and doing a shockingly poor job of that, clearly).

People are out walking their dogs constantly around here, and everyone is shaken up and feeling horrible that our neighbor and her lovely dog had to endure this. We are all thinking about what we would or should have done if it happened to us. Does everyone else walk around their neighborhoods with bear or pepper spray just in case? Are those actually effective in dog attack scenarios?

Oh, goody. Gossip. That'll help.

This information is actually responsive to the thread topic, unlike the bizarre rants from the pit apologists.

I’m curious about what others do, if anything, to be prepared should they or their dog be attacked by a dangerous animal in their neighborhood?

1) leash your dog (no retractable leashes. 6ft max, 4 is better)
2) keep your dog under your control (by your side, quiet, focused, not wandering off-trail, not barking at passers-by)
3) stay alert and scan for hazards. You are on-duty. No headphones, no phone, stay present, eyes scanning for hazards (the more time you have to respond, the better your response is likely to be)
4) carry dog repel spray (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/REPELLENT-Repeller-Agressive-Attack-BICYCLE/dp/B01FYAIE80) and/or pepper spray and, most importantly, know how to use it
5) carry a walking stick or other 'break stick' in case you need to break up a fight so you're not using your hands/arms

But really? the first 3 will keep you safe. Most people invite trouble with an off-leash dog, or a dog that's too far outside their control, don't train their dogs not to bark ("don't start none, won't be none" applies in the dog world, too), and are half up their own backsides, talking on the phone, or texting, or...

Thanks, PP. I really appreciate this. I don’t have a dog, but walk all the time and plan to be prepared going forward.

If you're not walking a dog, a pair of walking sticks are next-level defense (and good for your body). And you're welcome. Just know that I'm one of "those people" who defends the right of certain dog breeds to exist, and prefers to hold their humans responsible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

This happened in my neighborhood, and I know the owners of the victim dog, a very sweet small/medium doodle mix that was always leashed on walks. The grapevine says the aggressor dog was a pit that apparently a neighborhood family was fostering (and doing a shockingly poor job of that, clearly).

People are out walking their dogs constantly around here, and everyone is shaken up and feeling horrible that our neighbor and her lovely dog had to endure this. We are all thinking about what we would or should have done if it happened to us. Does everyone else walk around their neighborhoods with bear or pepper spray just in case? Are those actually effective in dog attack scenarios?

Oh, goody. Gossip. That'll help.

Lol. If your foster dog attacks a neighbor and her dog and KILLS her dog—her sweet dog that the neighbors knew and liked—you can be damn sure the people will talk about it.

Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you pitbull apologists anyway? Seriously, out of all the dog breeds that exist why have one that was bred to lock its jaws down onto its prey? You all think you’re so smart and know more than everyone else. But you clearly are not educated about the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies on the influence of genetics on behavioral traits in mammals. Generations of selected breeding in the past are not just magically erased because you feel like it. Same goes for the lasting effects of early life neglect, and trauma on the stress response of mammals. Those effects are transgenerational due to epigenetics.

Is it some twisted form of virtue signaling that compels you to own and defend these dogs? And yeah, they are ugly.

GTFOH with your posturing about "the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies" you haven't read and can't cite.

Some people like "pit bulls". Why is that such a problem for you, personally, that you're willing to show your whole ass about it like this? Talk about twisted...

DP. I've known a lot of pit mixes, since they're so abundantly found at shelters. And almost all of them have bitten someone, sometimes badly, sometimes seized and euthanized.

They are dumb, stubborn, lazy, hard to train and quick to bite. I just don't like them. But at least, they're sweet cuddle bugs...