Two dogs killed & two women injured

[Anonymous]

Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you pitbull apologists anyway? Seriously, out of all the dog breeds that exist why have one that was bred to lock its jaws down onto its prey? You all think you’re so smart and know more than everyone else. But you clearly are not educated about the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies on the influence of genetics on behavioral traits in mammals. Generations of selected breeding in the past are not just magically erased because you feel like it. Same goes for the lasting effects of early life neglect, and trauma on the stress response of mammals. Those effects are transgenerational due to epigenetics.

Is it some twisted form of virtue signaling that compels you to own and defend these dogs? And yeah, they are ugly.

GTFOH with your posturing about "the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies" you haven't read and can't cite.

Some people like "pit bulls". Why is that such a problem for you, personally, that you're willing to show your whole ass about it like this? Talk about
twisted...

I read and produce scientific peer reviewed articles for a living. I’m not doing a whole lit review for you when you clearly prefer to live in ignorance. Www.pubmed.gov is a great place to start. You can search by keyword.

It sounds like you have built your whole identity (and maybe livelihood?) around training and “rehabbing” dogs, making you unable to accept facts that go against your ability to make money off unsuspecting people.

You might like pit bulls, but none of the rest of us like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

Feeling's mutual, babe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

Feeling's mutual, babe.

I don’t care. Go get mauled, or sued, and leave the rest of us alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you pitbull apologists anyway? Seriously, out of all the dog breeds that exist why have one that was bred to lock its jaws down onto its prey? You all think you’re so smart and know more than everyone else. But you clearly are not educated about the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies on the influence of genetics on behavioral traits in mammals. Generations of selected breeding in the past are not just magically erased because you feel like it. Same goes for the lasting effects of early life neglect, and trauma on the stress response of mammals. Those effects are transgenerational due to epigenetics.

Is it some twisted form of virtue signaling that compels you to own and defend these dogs? And yeah, they are ugly.

GTFOH with your posturing about "the abundance of peer reviewed scientific studies" you haven't read and can't cite.

Some people like "pit bulls". Why is that such a problem for you, personally, that you're willing to show your whole ass about it like this? Talk about twisted...

DP. I've known a lot of pit mixes, since they're so abundantly found at shelters. And almost all of them have bitten someone, sometimes badly, sometimes seized and euthanized.

They are dumb, stubborn, lazy, hard to train and quick to bite. I just don't like them. But at least, they're sweet cuddle bugs...

So your entire experience is traumatized dogs in a shelter environment, and you're comfortable saying that's representative of the breed (five breeds) as a whole?

Thank you for the information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

Feeling's mutual, babe.

I don’t care. Go get mauled, or sued, and leave the rest of us alone.

If you'd allow me to have my dogs in peace, I could. But y'all nutties like to try to kill my dogs, so, you know, I do feel compelled to defend them.

Maybe try treating others the way you'd like to be treated and see how that goes, instead of being a hateful harpy?

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Anonymous wrote:I have been bitten once. By a lab.

Couldn't possibly have happened! Only pit bulls bite! Are you sure it actually bit you? Maybe it was 1% pit!!!

-pitbull psychosis sufferers

it's 35% of bites are pits or rotts
75% of fatal attacks are pits or rotts

Do your own research and provide stats that show i am wrong.

"I have no stats. If you want stats, you do the work I'm unwilling to do and unpack my ignorance for me. The reward for this unpaid labor will be me continuing to blather on about my crappy take, learning nothing, because I love my ignorance and have no good sense."

Tempting, but... no.

No thanks... any research I provide you you are going to make some inane assertion that the source is false. You were provide court cases all over the US that showed pits are dangerous, they were bread to be so, owners can't undo breeding... but "you are a volunteer" so that makes you an expert.

But you've only shown you are an expert in ignorance and the inability to take part in a conversation where you hold up your end of proving your point.

Your "research" does not show this point. At all. It also lumps all the dogs that 'look pit' under the same label. And here you are, lashing out at me instead of patching the holes in your own argument, which is why I already declined.

Be ignorant, if you like. I'd prefer you were also quiet, but you're not my responsibility (praise be).

The reality is pits were breed to fight and that is still in their breeding and your liberal heart is not going to stop the fact that this breed is dangerous (as well as a few others).

I don't think we should kill them but I do think their owners should have to prove every 2 years their dog can be in an area with other dogs and not attack.

If they attack they can't have the dog.

They also have a high prey drive and are easily triggered to attack in seemingly innocuous situations.

So do greyhounds

Let me know how many news articles you can find about greyhounds killing other dogs.

Took all of 20 seconds, slacker: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-greyhounds-attack-and-kill-chihuahua-in-coventry-caught-on-camera/ar-BB1gX3CE

Complete with video. Dogs off leash, the on-leash dogs not under proper control... all the variables cited above, no "pit bulls"

Your move, chump.

Greyhounds have a high prey drive. But they didn't eat the poor Chihuahua.

More goalpost moving from the losers who can't just take the L and learn from it. You asked for an article about greyhounds killing dogs, and one was near-immediately provided for you. Do you adjust your position based on this new information? No.

This is a you problem.

No, I didn’t ask for an article; I said let me know [b]how many[b] you find. In fact, since pit bulls are 5 different breeds, feel free to compare the statistics for “pit bulls” versus sight hounds so it’s more fair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

Feeling's mutual, babe.

I don’t care. Go get mauled, or sued, and leave the rest of us alone.

If you'd allow me to have my dogs in peace, I could. But y'all nutties like to try to kill my dogs, so, you know, I do feel compelled to defend them.

Maybe try treating others the way you'd like to be treated and see how that goes, instead of being a hateful harpy?

People who like dog fighting steal pitties, they don't try to kill them. Paranoia isn't healthy, when they aren't trying to kill your dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

We hate you too

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Anonymous wrote:I have been bitten once. By a lab.

Couldn't possibly have happened! Only pit bulls bite! Are you sure it actually bit you? Maybe it was 1% pit!!!

-pitbull psychosis sufferers

it's 35% of bites are pits or rotts
75% of fatal attacks are pits or rotts

Do your own research and provide stats that show i am wrong.

"I have no stats. If you want stats, you do the work I'm unwilling to do and unpack my ignorance for me. The reward for this unpaid labor will be me continuing to blather on about my crappy take, learning nothing, because I love my ignorance and have no good sense."

Tempting, but... no.

No thanks... any research I provide you you are going to make some inane assertion that the source is false. You were provide court cases all over the US that showed pits are dangerous, they were bread to be so, owners can't undo breeding... but "you are a volunteer" so that makes you an expert.

But you've only shown you are an expert in ignorance and the inability to take part in a conversation where you hold up your end of proving your point.

Your "research" does not show this point. At all. It also lumps all the dogs that 'look pit' under the same label. And here you are, lashing out at me instead of patching the holes in your own argument, which is why I already declined.

Be ignorant, if you like. I'd prefer you were also quiet, but you're not my responsibility (praise be).

The reality is pits were breed to fight and that is still in their breeding and your liberal heart is not going to stop the fact that this breed is dangerous (as well as a few others).

I don't think we should kill them but I do think their owners should have to prove every 2 years their dog can be in an area with other dogs and not attack.

If they attack they can't have the dog.

This, but instead of being breed-specific, EVERYBODY who wants a dog of ANY kind has to prove competent handling and training. "pits" were not the only dogs bred to fight, nor are they the only dogs that bite. All dogs can be dangerous if poorly trained and/or uncontrolled.

Tbf, one of the main reasons that labs have been the favorite breed for decades is that they are specifically bred to have soft mouths and to not bite people badly, when they do bite. So they are good beginner dogs because a family that isn't familiar with training a dog won't accidentally create a dangerous monster.

Labs rule!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ohhhhh geeeee, but was it a SWEEEEET PITTTTTTIEEEEEE?

I hate pit owners.

Feeling's mutual, babe.

I don’t care. Go get mauled, or sued, and leave the rest of us alone.

If you'd allow me to have my dogs in peace, I could. But y'all nutties like to try to kill my dogs, so, you know, I do feel compelled to defend them.

Maybe try treating others the way you'd like to be treated and see how that goes, instead of being a hateful harpy?

People who like dog fighting steal pitties, they don't try to kill them. Paranoia isn't healthy, when they aren't trying to kill your dogs.

Bold of you to call it "paranoia" on a board where there's a whole thread about hating "pit bulls" and posters on multiple threads have said they wanted the breed(s) "eliminated".

Y'all are the one's saying you've got a problem. Silly me for listening, i guess? Maybe don't talk so much nonsense next time...

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Anonymous wrote:I have been bitten once. By a lab.

Couldn't possibly have happened! Only pit bulls bite! Are you sure it actually bit you? Maybe it was 1% pit!!!

-pitbull psychosis sufferers

it's 35% of bites are pits or rotts
75% of fatal attacks are pits or rotts

Do your own research and provide stats that show i am wrong.

"I have no stats. If you want stats, you do the work I'm unwilling to do and unpack my ignorance for me. The reward for this unpaid labor will be me continuing to blather on about my crappy take, learning nothing, because I love my ignorance and have no good sense."

Tempting, but... no.

No thanks... any research I provide you you are going to make some inane assertion that the source is false. You were provide court cases all over the US that showed pits are dangerous, they were bread to be so, owners can't undo breeding... but "you are a volunteer" so that makes you an expert.

But you've only shown you are an expert in ignorance and the inability to take part in a conversation where you hold up your end of proving your point.

Your "research" does not show this point. At all. It also lumps all the dogs that 'look pit' under the same label. And here you are, lashing out at me instead of patching the holes in your own argument, which is why I already declined.

Be ignorant, if you like. I'd prefer you were also quiet, but you're not my responsibility (praise be).

The reality is pits were breed to fight and that is still in their breeding and your liberal heart is not going to stop the fact that this breed is dangerous (as well as a few others).

I don't think we should kill them but I do think their owners should have to prove every 2 years their dog can be in an area with other dogs and not attack.

If they attack they can't have the dog.

They also have a high prey drive and are easily triggered to attack in seemingly innocuous situations.

So do greyhounds

Let me know how many news articles you can find about greyhounds killing other dogs.

Took all of 20 seconds, slacker: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/moment-greyhounds-attack-and-kill-chihuahua-in-coventry-caught-on-camera/ar-BB1gX3CE

Complete with video. Dogs off leash, the on-leash dogs not under proper control... all the variables cited above, no "pit bulls"

Your move, chump.

Greyhounds have a high prey drive. But they didn't eat the poor Chihuahua.

More goalpost moving from the losers who can't just take the L and learn from it. You asked for an article about greyhounds killing dogs, and one was near-immediately provided for you. Do you adjust your position based on this new information? No.

This is a you problem.

No, I didn’t ask for an article; I said let me know [b]how many[b] you find. In fact, since pit bulls are 5 different breeds, feel free to compare the statistics for “pit bulls” versus sight hounds so it’s more fair.

I do not feel free to continue doing unpaid labor for your willfully-ignorant ass. I feel free to mock you, relentlessly, for your lack of critical thinking, arrogance, and stupidity.

So you're welcome to feel free to disenage, as I'll take further engagement as consent proceed as described.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have been bitten once. By a lab.

Couldn't possibly have happened! Only pit bulls bite! Are you sure it actually bit you? Maybe it was 1% pit!!!

-pitbull psychosis sufferers

it's 35% of bites are pits or rotts
75% of fatal attacks are pits or rotts

Do your own research and provide stats that show i am wrong.

"I have no stats. If you want stats, you do the work I'm unwilling to do and unpack my ignorance for me. The reward for this unpaid labor will be me continuing to blather on about my crappy take, learning nothing, because I love my ignorance and have no good sense."

Tempting, but... no.

No thanks... any research I provide you you are going to make some inane assertion that the source is false. You were provide court cases all over the US that showed pits are dangerous, they were bread to be so, owners can't undo breeding... but "you are a volunteer" so that makes you an expert.

But you've only shown you are an expert in ignorance and the inability to take part in a conversation where you hold up your end of proving your point.

Your "research" does not show this point. At all. It also lumps all the dogs that 'look pit' under the same label. And here you are, lashing out at me instead of patching the holes in your own argument, which is why I already declined.

Be ignorant, if you like. I'd prefer you were also quiet, but you're not my responsibility (praise be).

The reality is pits were breed to fight and that is still in their breeding and your liberal heart is not going to stop the fact that this breed is dangerous (as well as a few others).

I don't think we should kill them but I do think their owners should have to prove every 2 years their dog can be in an area with other dogs and not attack.

If they attack they can't have the dog.

This, but instead of being breed-specific, EVERYBODY who wants a dog of ANY kind has to prove competent handling and training. "pits" were not the only dogs bred to fight, nor are they the only dogs that bite. All dogs can be dangerous if poorly trained and/or uncontrolled.

Tbf, one of the main reasons that labs have been the favorite breed for decades is that they are specifically bred to have soft mouths and to not bite people badly, when they do bite. So they are good beginner dogs because a family that isn't familiar with training a dog won't accidentally create a dangerous monster.

Labs rule!

Lab pit is a good mix. Straight labs have genetic issues, unfortunately. They sure are sweet though!

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Anonymous wrote:Can we discuss the pit bull eating the dead dog in the yard??? I’ve had dogs my entire life and have never known one to eat a dead animal. What the hell is that? I’ve even had retrieving bird dogs. Was this dog starved? I just can’t imagine another dog killing and eating another.

Any IDs on the breed of the leashed dog that the pit killed?

This happened in my neighborhood, and I know the owners of the victim dog, a very sweet small/medium doodle mix that was always leashed on walks. The grapevine says the aggressor dog was a pit that apparently a neighborhood family was fostering (and doing a shockingly poor job of that, clearly).

People are out walking their dogs constantly around here, and everyone is shaken up and feeling horrible that our neighbor and her lovely dog had to endure this. We are all thinking about what we would or should have done if it happened to us. Does everyone else walk around their neighborhoods with bear or pepper spray just in case? Are those actually effective in dog attack scenarios?

Oh, goody. Gossip. That'll help.

This information is actually responsive to the thread topic, unlike the bizarre rants from the pit apologists.

I’m curious about what others do, if anything, to be prepared should they or their dog be attacked by a dangerous animal in their neighborhood?

1) leash your dog (no retractable leashes. 6ft max, 4 is better)
2) keep your dog under your control (by your side, quiet, focused, not wandering off-trail, not barking at passers-by)
3) stay alert and scan for hazards. You are on-duty. No headphones, no phone, stay present, eyes scanning for hazards (the more time you have to respond, the better your response is likely to be)
4) carry dog repel spray (something like this: https://www.amazon.com/REPELLENT-Repeller-Agressive-Attack-BICYCLE/dp/B01FYAIE80) and/or pepper spray and, most importantly, know how to use it
5) carry a walking stick or other 'break stick' in case you need to break up a fight so you're not using your hands/arms

But really? the first 3 will keep you safe. Most people invite trouble with an off-leash dog, or a dog that's too far outside their control, don't train their dogs not to bark ("don't start none, won't be none" applies in the dog world, too), and are half up their own backsides, talking on the phone, or texting, or...

Are you saying that if you ‘invite trouble’ by say, having your dog on a long lead while hiking that it’s okay that your ‘sweet pittie’ mauls that person and their dog to death?

[Anonymous]

Carry bear spray.