Should I vote republican or a democrat? I despise both parties.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

Yeah, no. The election is literally all of it. As in, you vote for the Republicans there will not be another free election for a very, very long time / ever.

[Anonymous]

I don't know OP. I don't like either of our parties and totally disagree that the Dems are "better" than Reps. There are seriously messed up people on both sides of the table. And certainly I don't care for Trump but I also fear the Biden/Kamala ticket for different reasons yet still same sentiment.

I think we are going through a period in the US when a lot of things aren't going right. I don't know how long it will take to sort out or even if it truly will.

For me, I think there's almost nobody sane who would want the POTUS office. Obama was probably the last one that I felt was deserving of the office actually. I did NOT agree with his across the board but I did respect him and felt that he approached the office with the right attitude. As a man, I don't think he is holier than thou and think he is a lot more ruthless and cunning than everyone gives him credit for LOL - the guy is not the nicest in the room. However, you have to have that edge and be willing to throw fire. For me, I'm willing to accept him because I think he really felt compelled to lead.

In the present age, post COVID, in this messy world of wars, noise, climate issues, financial dramas, I just don't see anyone who really wants the responsibility of figuring a way out for the right reasons. Anyone who does is all ego.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I'm an atheist. [Democrat]

I believe in capitalism and free markets. [Depends. Unfettered capitalism and free markets to benefit the billionaire? Then R. Ok with regulation and some controls? D. ]

I abhor the military-industrial complex. [Neither]

I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. [D. Existential issue]

I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. [Wash. Rs lower taxes for the rich and "less government" depends on the issue -- they are fine w/more government for things like abortions.]

I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. [D, no contest.]

I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. [But does this really in any way have any impact on your day to day life other than you feel icky about it? Why is this a big deal?]

I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). [D]

That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world. [Democrats have actually done a marginally better job on this than Rs, and thats a fact.]

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians! [Obviously you should vote D; why is this even an issue.]

Hi OP here. I don’t greatly disagree with this. I’ve historically voted for mostly democrats, and voted Biden in the last election, but did so extremely grudgingly. I truly despise both parties - they make me sick. Also, Biden is unquestionably now too old to be president, but I’ll never vote trump.

It’s sad we are so poorly governed and have such awful people seeking office in this country.

[Anonymous]

All of you complaining that there aren't any better candidates:

Why are you not running for office?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know OP. I don't like either of our parties and totally disagree that the Dems are "better" than Reps. There are seriously messed up people on both sides of the table. And certainly I don't care for Trump but I also fear the Biden/Kamala ticket for different reasons yet still same sentiment.

I think we are going through a period in the US when a lot of things aren't going right. I don't know how long it will take to sort out or even if it truly will.

For me, I think there's almost nobody sane who would want the POTUS office. Obama was probably the last one that I felt was deserving of the office actually. I did NOT agree with his across the board but I did respect him and felt that he approached the office with the right attitude. As a man, I don't think he is holier than thou and think he is a lot more ruthless and cunning than everyone gives him credit for LOL - the guy is not the nicest in the room. However, you have to have that edge and be willing to throw fire. For me, I'm willing to accept him because I think he really felt compelled to lead.

In the present age, post COVID, in this messy world of wars, noise, climate issues, financial dramas, I just don't see anyone who really wants the responsibility of figuring a way out for the right reasons. Anyone who does is all ego.

On one side you have people who support NATO and the world order as anyone has known it for their lifetimes; healthcare and jobs, a growing GDP and rights for all Americans.

On the other side, you have a record of failing economic policies, authoritarianism, pro-Russian foriegn policy and the stripping of rights such as voting, managing one's body etc.

But sure, let's express the same sentiment and disdain for bOtH SiDEs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

Yeah, no. The election is literally all of it. As in, you vote for the Republicans there will not be another free election for a very, very long time / ever.

When the Republicans win and there are continuing free elections, will you reassess your baseline? Because there is no evidence the Republican party is planning to end democratic elections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

Yeah, no. The election is literally all of it. As in, you vote for the Republicans there will not be another free election for a very, very long time / ever.

When the Republicans win and there are continuing free elections, will you reassess your baseline? Because there is no evidence the Republican party is planning to end democratic elections.

DP No evidence? They’re literally running a guy on trial for trying to fix the election then trying to overturn it when he couldn’t fix it. As soon as the RNC puts up some candidates who vehemently oppose trump and his crimes, I’ll stop worrying about it. The one person who had integrity on this issue didn’t make it past the first round of debates. The RNC is a crime org.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

Yeah, no. The election is literally all of it. As in, you vote for the Republicans there will not be another free election for a very, very long time / ever.

When the Republicans win and there are continuing free elections, will you reassess your baseline? Because there is no evidence the Republican party is planning to end democratic elections.

Check out the redistricting maps that the Republican Party supermajority legislature came out with YESTERDAY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm an atheist. [Democrat]

I believe in capitalism and free markets. [Depends. Unfettered capitalism and free markets to benefit the billionaire? Then R. Ok with regulation and some controls? D. ]

I abhor the military-industrial complex. [Neither]

I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. [D. Existential issue]

I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. [Wash. Rs lower taxes for the rich and "less government" depends on the issue -- they are fine w/more government for things like abortions.]

I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. [D, no contest.]

I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. [But does this really in any way have any impact on your day to day life other than you feel icky about it? Why is this a big deal?]

I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). [D]

That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world. [Democrats have actually done a marginally better job on this than Rs, and thats a fact.]

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians! [Obviously you should vote D; why is this even an issue.]

Hi OP here. I don’t greatly disagree with this. I’ve historically voted for mostly democrats, and voted Biden in the last election, but did so extremely grudgingly. I truly despise both parties - they make me sick. Also, Biden is unquestionably now too old to be president, but I’ll never vote trump.

It’s sad we are so poorly governed and have such awful people seeking office in this country.

You may be an atheist now but I would wager that you grew up… Catholic, probably, in a family that has mostly stayed Catholic and very right wing. You were able to buck the religious brainwashing but you aren’t able to think for yourself yet. There’s nothing wrong with you, you could, but it comforts you still to wrap yourself in Republican media and framing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm an atheist. [Democrat]

I believe in capitalism and free markets. [Depends. Unfettered capitalism and free markets to benefit the billionaire? Then R. Ok with regulation and some controls? D. ]

I abhor the military-industrial complex. [Neither]

I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. [D. Existential issue]

I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. [Wash. Rs lower taxes for the rich and "less government" depends on the issue -- they are fine w/more government for things like abortions.]

I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. [D, no contest.]

I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. [But does this really in any way have any impact on your day to day life other than you feel icky about it? Why is this a big deal?]

I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). [D]

That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world. [Democrats have actually done a marginally better job on this than Rs, and thats a fact.]

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians! [Obviously you should vote D; why is this even an issue.]

Hi OP here. I don’t greatly disagree with this. I’ve historically voted for mostly democrats, and voted Biden in the last election, but did so extremely grudgingly. I truly despise both parties - they make me sick. Also, Biden is unquestionably now too old to be president, but I’ll never vote trump.

It’s sad we are so poorly governed and have such awful people seeking office in this country.

You may be an atheist now but I would wager that you grew up… Catholic, probably, in a family that has mostly stayed Catholic and very right wing. You were able to buck the religious brainwashing but you aren’t able to think for yourself yet. There’s nothing wrong with you, you could, but it comforts you still to wrap yourself in Republican media and framing.

DP you cannot pigeon-hole Catholics. My family has always been pretty hardcore Democrat as well as the parishes where I have lived — except some in NOVA. Many Catholics straddle the divide — anti-abortion but social Justice warrior-types.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm an atheist. [Democrat]

I believe in capitalism and free markets. [Depends. Unfettered capitalism and free markets to benefit the billionaire? Then R. Ok with regulation and some controls? D. ]

I abhor the military-industrial complex. [Neither]

I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. [D. Existential issue]

I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. [Wash. Rs lower taxes for the rich and "less government" depends on the issue -- they are fine w/more government for things like abortions.]

I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. [D, no contest.]

I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. [But does this really in any way have any impact on your day to day life other than you feel icky about it? Why is this a big deal?]

I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). [D]

That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world. [Democrats have actually done a marginally better job on this than Rs, and thats a fact.]

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians! [Obviously you should vote D; why is this even an issue.]

Hi OP here. I don’t greatly disagree with this. I’ve historically voted for mostly democrats, and voted Biden in the last election, but did so extremely grudgingly. I truly despise both parties - they make me sick. Also, Biden is unquestionably now too old to be president, but I’ll never vote trump.

It’s sad we are so poorly governed and have such awful people seeking office in this country.

You may be an atheist now but I would wager that you grew up… Catholic, probably, in a family that has mostly stayed Catholic and very right wing. You were able to buck the religious brainwashing but you aren’t able to think for yourself yet. There’s nothing wrong with you, you could, but it comforts you still to wrap yourself in Republican media and framing.

DP you cannot pigeon-hole Catholics. My family has always been pretty hardcore Democrat as well as the parishes where I have lived — except some in NOVA. Many Catholics straddle the divide — anti-abortion but social Justice warrior-types.

Let’s also not forget that Pelosi and Biden are Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I'm an atheist. [Democrat]

I believe in capitalism and free markets. [Depends. Unfettered capitalism and free markets to benefit the billionaire? Then R. Ok with regulation and some controls? D. ]

I abhor the military-industrial complex. [Neither]

I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. [D. Existential issue]

I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. [Wash. Rs lower taxes for the rich and "less government" depends on the issue -- they are fine w/more government for things like abortions.]

I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. [D, no contest.]

I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. [But does this really in any way have any impact on your day to day life other than you feel icky about it? Why is this a big deal?]

I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). [D]

That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world. [Democrats have actually done a marginally better job on this than Rs, and thats a fact.]

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians! [Obviously you should vote D; why is this even an issue.]

Hi OP here. I don’t greatly disagree with this. I’ve historically voted for mostly democrats, and voted Biden in the last election, but did so extremely grudgingly. I truly despise both parties - they make me sick. Also, Biden is unquestionably now too old to be president, but I’ll never vote trump.

It’s sad we are so poorly governed and have such awful people seeking office in this country.

You may be an atheist now but I would wager that you grew up… Catholic, probably, in a family that has mostly stayed Catholic and very right wing. You were able to buck the religious brainwashing but you aren’t able to think for yourself yet. There’s nothing wrong with you, you could, but it comforts you still to wrap yourself in Republican media and framing.

DP you cannot pigeon-hole Catholics. My family has always been pretty hardcore Democrat as well as the parishes where I have lived — except some in NOVA. Many Catholics straddle the divide — anti-abortion but social Justice warrior-types.

FYI, there are plenty of pro-choice Catholics out there, too: https://www.catholicsforchoice.org/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

What do you mean by "not both sides"? There are only two sides and everyone must pick one of those two sides. Our two parties are irreplaceable public entities and we have no choice but to vote for the candidates they put before us. That is the way it works. Stop trying to think for yourself and just follow the rest of the sheep in one direction or the other.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm an atheist. I believe in capitalism and free markets. I abhor the military-industrial complex. I'm concerned about human-induced climate change. I want lower taxes and somewhat less government. I support universal access to abortions, within some minor logical constraints. I feel like the LGBTQIA+ movement gets too much airtime and we don't need to bend over backwards for trans people. I despise trump and all the MAGA scum (because that's what they are). That said, I'd like to stop the flow of illegals across the southern border. I'd also love to see us allow in many more talented, educated people from all over world.

What do you think? After re-reading the above, I feel like I should probably vote republican, but i just hate most republican politicians!

If you despise both parties, you should vote for neither. We're in the toxic and messy political environment we're in because for too long people have been voting for their perceived lesser of two evils put forth by the R or D Party. That practice has given us a lower overall quality of people leading our Federal Government. If you don't think the person you are considering voting for is among the absolutely best of the best candidates for the position, don't vote for them. That methodology would surely rule out Trump and Biden. By continually meeting voter turn out expectations and by 98% of us continuing to vote for nothing but R and D candidates, the two parties are continually being rewarded for their less than ideal candidates and therefore they have no incentive to change for the better.

We are in this mess because of bothsides clowns like yourself.

We are in this mess when people like you and OP can look rationally at the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and their policies and actions and think for even a second that these two parties are remotely the same.

We’re in the mess because people like you who bothsides everything continually vote for Republicans no matter what crap they pull because if both parties are both the same better just move with the herd, right?

We have one functional party and one party that is, on several levels, trying to destroy the government. All of you who profess to hate both parties continually cite right wing talking points about the Democratic Party as to why you hate the Democrats, and not a one of you has any self awareness that you are just regurgitating right wing talking points that have no or minimal basis in reality.

So I guess just keep going on the way you are bothsiders. We certainly have a functioning government that’s totally not being held hostage both in Congress and in military appointments by the GOP and none of our soldiers are in any danger and there are zero humanitarian crises ongoing. So just lie back, relax and think of the flag as you vote Republican.

Not “both” sides. Sad you believe there are only two ways to think. Also the election is only a small part of it.

Yeah, no. The election is literally all of it. As in, you vote for the Republicans there will not be another free election for a very, very long time / ever.

When the Republicans win and there are continuing free elections, will you reassess your baseline? Because there is no evidence the Republican party is planning to end democratic elections.

Check out the redistricting maps that the Republican Party supermajority legislature came out with YESTERDAY.

Where?