Doesn’t she want to go out with her own friends? My 15 YO might agree to this dinner once but would not want to hang out with you any more than you want to entertain her. |
And their kids do too. They get it from the parents. Not at all the child’s fault. Bad manners tho. |
Can we please stop assuming that all teens have a gang of friends who are down for hanging out in person every weekend? And no, that does not mean they should be included in adults-only dinners, but that’s not what this was billed as. |
Raises hand. I have a problem with this and have a teenager. |
| Would depend |
| OP I think maybe your friend cares more about his daughter than about you. Sorry. |
| Y’all are wild |
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Normal OP. Her choices were either stay with the adults or be a babysitter. I would have stayed with the adults too.
Maybe as she gets older she will have more places to go on the weekends. |
This is the modern day equivalent of “children shouldn’t speak unless spoken to.” OP invited a whole family over without knowing there was a teenager in the family. Now she knows and can adjust her invitations accordingly. Don’t invite people to your house whom you want to avoid. If you want to exclude someone, you have to be more exclusionary. |
| OP has it not occurred to you that the 15-year-old teen is closer in age to a legal adult then your elementary schooler? |
| You planned a 4 hour conversation after dinner. Before the adult dinner began, the kids ate. This is a minimum of a 5 hour evening. If I were the new friends I would never come again. |
| Maybe the dad is in a situation where if he doesn't spend time with his daughter at the dinner, the mom will get on his case about how he never spends time with his kid and will start an argument. I've seen this dynamic in divorced families. |
I agree. The kid shouldn’t have been present for the reason OP listed. The adults can’t fully express themselves in an adult manner with a minor present. I understand her not wanting to hang out with an 11 year old but it would have been better to let her stay home or maybe invite a friend over for a few hours. |
Really? I'm an immigrant and I grew up in the South and I always ate at the adults' table because I was the oldest daughter in my parent's friend group. The boys who were my age ignored me and I didn't want to hang out with the little girls. |
I don't get this argument, did you only play/hang out with kids your exact age growing up? Growing up we hung out in our neighborhood with kids in a wide range, so 11 and 15 isn't strange to me |