Thomas Jefferson High School drops to 5th in latest US News ranking

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

Nobody here is getting a “free ride”. Kids are all working hard. Now, hard working kids from more MSs have access to TJ. It’s a good thing.

You deny it because you feel shame to accept the reality.

There is no shame that hard-working, well-qualified kids from more MSs now have access to TJ.

Source/ any data to support your comment?
Why do you need quota then?
Why not compete fairly with others?

All kids met GPA/course criteria. These kids have higher GPAs, on average, than before the change.

Then why there are quotas in the system?
You still don't want to admit the reality.

There aren’t race-based quotas. There are seats open to all MSs - if and only if they have qualified applicants.

Come on. Each locality has a certain demographic composition. FCPS just masks their race-based intent.
You can't be that naive, right?

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

Public school is probably free for you. I pay a lot of tax for the public school. Yes, TAX. Ring a bell?

Rich people are no more entitled to public education than anyone else. Just like they aren’t entitled to extra fire department support.

That’s not how taxes work.

Rich people are not the only people paying taxes for the public school. A lot of middle-class people do (property tax). You really have no clue where the public school funding comes from.

Why do you hate rich people so much? Most of them work hard and take risks to get ahead.

Like I said, you cannot rely on free rides/handouts to get ahead

I don’t hate rich people; I very likely make more than you. But I don’t think my kids are any more entitled to a seat at a particular school than anyone else.

And I don’t expect that I get extra police services just because I pay more property taxes than you.

Nice try.

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FCPS should do more to lift the academic level of the URMs from pre-K to 12.
Please stop playing admission games.

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Anonymous wrote:The data differences are minuscule at the top. This is no biggie. I'm glad there are now other contenders!

Seriously, as if this matters at all! And ranking high schools is ridiculous anyway. Across the country, most people go to the neighborhood high school, even the geniuses.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

Public school is probably free for you. I pay a lot of tax for the public school. Yes, TAX. Ring a bell?

Rich people are no more entitled to public education than anyone else. Just like they aren’t entitled to extra fire department support.

That’s not how taxes work.

Rich people are not the only people paying taxes for the public school. A lot of middle-class people do (property tax). You really have no clue where the public school funding comes from.

Why do you hate rich people so much? Most of them work hard and take risks to get ahead.

Like I said, you cannot rely on free rides/handouts to get ahead

I don’t hate rich people; I very likely make more than you. But I don’t think my kids are any more entitled to a seat at a particular school than anyone else.

And I don’t expect that I get extra police services just because I pay more property taxes than you.

Nice try.

100% accurate. I also work in tech and went to top 10 STEM undergrad & grad.

And I think that no one is entitled to a seat at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

Public school is probably free for you. I pay a lot of tax for the public school. Yes, TAX. Ring a bell?

Rich people are no more entitled to public education than anyone else. Just like they aren’t entitled to extra fire department support.

That’s not how taxes work.

Rich people are not the only people paying taxes for the public school. A lot of middle-class people do (property tax). You really have no clue where the public school funding comes from.

Why do you hate rich people so much? Most of them work hard and take risks to get ahead.

Like I said, you cannot rely on free rides/handouts to get ahead

I don’t hate rich people; I very likely make more than you. But I don’t think my kids are any more entitled to a seat at a particular school than anyone else.

And I don’t expect that I get extra police services just because I pay more property taxes than you.

Nice try.

100% accurate. I also work in tech and went to top 10 STEM undergrad & grad.

And I think that no one is entitled to a seat at TJ.

(and I do alumni interviewing for my undergraduate university and have interviewed dozens of TJ students over the years)

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Anonymous wrote:The data differences are minuscule at the top. This is no biggie. I'm glad there are now other contenders!

Seriously, as if this matters at all! And ranking high schools is ridiculous anyway. Across the country, most people go to the neighborhood high school, even the geniuses.

Yes, the ranking is not that important. It just reminds people of the unfair admission process TJ has.

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Anonymous wrote:The data differences are minuscule at the top. This is no biggie. I'm glad there are now other contenders!

Seriously, as if this matters at all! And ranking high schools is ridiculous anyway. Across the country, most people go to the neighborhood high school, even the geniuses.

Yes, the ranking is not that important. It just reminds people of the unfair admission process TJ has.

How so? The ranking is based on data prior to the admissions change

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.

It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.

Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."

It wis not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

Stop just paste and copy

Stop posting lies.

You are a pathetic liar, panhandler

Sorry, the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

It is not fair. It is a process that promotes laziness and penalizes meritocracy.
Sorry, you are so dumb. Now I understand why you need quotas to stay afloat.

You resort to ad hominem attacks because you have no valid argument.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

Public school is probably free for you. I pay a lot of tax for the public school. Yes, TAX. Ring a bell?

Rich people are no more entitled to public education than anyone else. Just like they aren’t entitled to extra fire department support.

That’s not how taxes work.

Rich people are not the only people paying taxes for the public school. A lot of middle-class people do (property tax). You really have no clue where the public school funding comes from.

Why do you hate rich people so much? Most of them work hard and take risks to get ahead.

Like I said, you cannot rely on free rides/handouts to get ahead

I don’t hate rich people; I very likely make more than you. But I don’t think my kids are any more entitled to a seat at a particular school than anyone else.

And I don’t expect that I get extra police services just because I pay more property taxes than you.

Nice try.

100% accurate. I also work in tech and went to top 10 STEM undergrad & grad.

And I think that no one is entitled to a seat at TJ.

Yes, I have interns from TJ too.
They do have high test scores (like PSAT) and they are active in STEM activities.
I don't think they are the ones who need quotas to get into TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.

It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.

Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."

It wis not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

Stop just paste and copy

Stop posting lies.

You are a pathetic liar, panhandler

Sorry, the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

It is not fair. It is a process that promotes laziness and penalizes meritocracy.
Sorry, you are so dumb. Now I understand why you need quotas to stay afloat.

You resort to ad hominem attacks because you have no valid argument.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

You sure are not talking about yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.

But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.

And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.

How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?

The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.

So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow

Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic

Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.

You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.

It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time

This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?

These kids do work hard. Sit down.

Most do work hard, except the quota kids.

this ranking is based on the stats prior to the Court ruling. No quota kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.

It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.

It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.

Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."

It wis not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

Stop just paste and copy

Stop posting lies.

You are a pathetic liar, panhandler

Sorry, the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

It is not fair. It is a process that promotes laziness and penalizes meritocracy.
Sorry, you are so dumb. Now I understand why you need quotas to stay afloat.

You resort to ad hominem attacks because you have no valid argument.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.

You sure are not talking about yourself.

The current ranking is based on stats prior the admission changes and court ruling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Justice Roberts wrote: "Harvard's admissions process rests on the pernicious stereotype that 'a black student can usually bring something that a white person cannot offer.'"

How does diversity help in a STEM school likes TJ? I think it is irrelevant.
Do students from different races see Navier-Stokes equations differently?

Unique perspectives and ideas help w/problem solving.

Look at how many design flaws resulted from only utilizing white, male engineers.

Please explain how race/gender prevents engineering failures.

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Anonymous wrote:Justice Roberts wrote: "Harvard's admissions process rests on the pernicious stereotype that 'a black student can usually bring something that a white person cannot offer.'"

How does diversity help in a STEM school likes TJ? I think it is irrelevant.
Do students from different races see Navier-Stokes equations differently?

Unique perspectives and ideas help w/problem solving.

Look at how many design flaws resulted from only utilizing white, male engineers.

Please explain how race/gender prevents engineering failures.

You've never studied engineering design?