Thomas Jefferson High School drops to 5th in latest US News ranking

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


Stop trolling.

"Liana Loewus, the managing editor for education at U.S. News, said very small shifts in data can cause big changes in the rankings.

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”


Article also says that TJ is still the #1 ranked magnet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


Stop trolling.

"Liana Loewus, the managing editor for education at U.S. News, said very small shifts in data can cause big changes in the rankings.

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”


Article also says that TJ is still the #1 ranked magnet.


"and it moved up two spots to No. 4 in the top STEM school in the U.S. It also ranked first as the top high school in the D.C. area, "
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


Stop trolling.

"Liana Loewus, the managing editor for education at U.S. News, said very small shifts in data can cause big changes in the rankings.

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”


Article also says that TJ is still the #1 ranked magnet.


Also, "The data was from before Thomas Jefferson High School implemented changes to how it admitted students into the highly selective school." The trolls will keep trolling regardless of facts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


When athlete tryout assessments are simplified to personal essays, it shouldn't come as a shock if a top-ranked team is unable to maintain their history of success. Same here.


I guess math isn't your strong suit or maybe counting?


5th rank is four levels behind 1st
Anonymous
US news ranked over 17,000 high schools. Not much of a difference between numbers 1 and 5. Get a grip.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


When athlete tryout assessments are simplified to personal essays, it shouldn't come as a shock if a top-ranked team is unable to maintain their history of success. Same here.


I guess math isn't your strong suit or maybe counting?


5th rank is four levels behind 1st


Are you implying that the county invented a time machine and retroactively applied the new admissions standards because the US news data is prior to the change?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


Stop trolling.

"Liana Loewus, the managing editor for education at U.S. News, said very small shifts in data can cause big changes in the rankings.

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”


Article also says that TJ is still the #1 ranked magnet.


That's because most Magnet high schools use lottery system.

From US News: "Magnet high schools are public high schools that offer specialized courses, often designed around a theme. Any student in the designated region can attend, which causes most magnet schools to use a lottery system to accept applicants. Some magnet schools use an application process that involves test scores and GPAs. The following are the nation's best magnet schools, as calculated by U.S. News."
Anonymous
TJ High School for Science and Technology goes up in the STEM rankings.

RWNJs: "FCPS is so bad that they sent shockwaves backwards in time to make the school worse in the past".

Must be those Jewish apace lasers again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


When athlete tryout assessments are simplified to personal essays, it shouldn't come as a shock if a top-ranked team is unable to maintain their history of success. Same here.


I guess math isn't your strong suit or maybe counting?


5th rank is four levels behind 1st


Are you implying that the county invented a time machine and retroactively applied the new admissions standards because the US news data is prior to the change?


No, we will not invent a time machine once we keeps lowering or deterioration of standards.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:US news ranked over 17,000 high schools. Not much of a difference between numbers 1 and 5. Get a grip.


Do you recall anyone who was the fifth place in any Olympic events?


Where does TJ keep it's gold medals from prior years?


TJ ranked #1 in the past. Where have you been????


You implied there were medals in the past, I've never seen them. Isn't the lack of a medal your problem with dropping from first to 5th?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


When athlete tryout assessments are simplified to personal essays, it shouldn't come as a shock if a top-ranked team is unable to maintain their history of success. Same here.


I guess math isn't your strong suit or maybe counting?


5th rank is four levels behind 1st


Are you implying that the county invented a time machine and retroactively applied the new admissions standards because the US news data is prior to the change?


No, we will not invent a time machine once we keeps lowering or deterioration of standards.


No need to invent what's already been invented. Clearly FCPS went back in time and changed the standards as reflected in the ranking drop. That must be why the Washington Examiner (a fine and unbiased source) didn't mention that the data used by US news was prior to the admissions change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


Stop trolling.

"Liana Loewus, the managing editor for education at U.S. News, said very small shifts in data can cause big changes in the rankings.

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”


Article also says that TJ is still the #1 ranked magnet.


It is funny that TJ is worse than 4 non-magnet schools.
What does magnet school focus on nowaday?
Not math and science, but equal-outcome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html


Stop trolling.

"Liana Loewus, the managing editor for education at U.S. News, said very small shifts in data can cause big changes in the rankings.

“So with TJ, there were just very small shifts in assessment data,” Loewus said. “But because especially those top schools, they are so close to each other, just a small shift can look like a precipitous drop. But it doesn’t mean too much has really changed there.”


Article also says that TJ is still the #1 ranked magnet.


It is funny that TJ is worse than 4 non-magnet schools.
What does magnet school focus on nowaday?
Not math and science, but equal-outcome.


A+ for crappy poetry, F for trolling. The data was prior to any change
Anonymous
Why is US News encouraged or even allowed to publish rankings when ranking inherently implies disparities among schools? This categorization places one school at the pinnacle, followed by most in the middle, and inevitably labels a subset of schools as the bottom. The concept of equity in education begins first with uniform treatment for all schools, ensuring sufficient options to enable equal access. Ranking uplifts one or a few schools above numerous district schools, suggesting that others are comparatively less exceptional.
Anonymous
It's weird no one has linked the ranking metrics that probably led to the slide:

College Readiness Index Rank - #1 (tie) #1
College Curriculum Breadth Index Rank - #9 #1
State Assessment Proficiency Rank - #15 (tie) #1
State Assessment Performance Rank - #44 #1
Graduation Rate Rank - #1 (tie) #1 (tie)

The outlier here is the "State Assessment Performance Rank," at 44th, which is defined by US News as the following:
"How aggregated scores on state assessments compare with U.S. News' expectations given the proportions of students who are Black, Hispanic and from low-income households."

As noted the data used was prior to the admissions changes, so Im not sure whether the admissions changes will help or hurt, but I suspect having larger numbers of high performing URMs will increase their ranking here and will return them to #1.
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