Thomas Jefferson High School drops to 5th in latest US News ranking

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Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

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Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html

Once the admissions process was corrupted by all the prep centers making average kids appear gifted it was just a matter of time.

Stop using "prep centers" as the scapegoat.
If prep centers are the real problem, the solution will be simple.
We could just provide free prep services for any URMs who are interested.
Then, the TJ student population will resemble the US population.

I'm just curious - because I delight in giving people enough rope to hang themselves - what do YOU think the real problem is?

The problem is we can't simply spend $20k on Cuire classes to guarantee our children entry like the good old days. You have to actually be talented now. It's so crazy and unfair!

Either you are paid by Curie or a fool to repeatedly mention their name on these forums and unaware of free publicity it provides them

Go to prep class still need to study and practice. Why do prep if we can just change the admission process to get it?
Why pay back the student loan if other taxpayers pay for it?
Why work if the welfare check is coming?
Why buy if we can steal?

What point were you trying to make with this incoherent word salad?

Some people just want the prestige of being students of TJ. They do not really want to study hard and learn advanced STEM education. They don't even want to prepare for the admission exams.

And how do you know how hard they work?

Seriously - how do you know what those kids do when they’re at home?

If they can get in by merit, they don't need this new admission process that favors them unethically.

DP, but the old system favored those who could pay for prep classes and game the system. Not by merit.
Now I see why you protest.

There are many admitted students who did not have prep classes under the old system.
The new system just unfairly hurt this group of students.

I don't have any issue with banning all the prep centers.

A merit-based system should be used.

Waiiiiiit a minute.

How does the new process unfairly hurt kids who were admitted by the old system without prep? They got into the school, didn’t they? It’s not like they were retroactively kicked out of the school after the admissions process changed.

Explain it to me like I’m five.

Because they got into the school under the old system without prep. Now the reputation of the school is falling (and everyone is following this nationwide). So they, as TJ students, won't get the national awards and/or college placements they might have under the old system where TJ was no. 1 and everyone knew it. It's like watching the rearrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic.

That's so unusual. Almost nobody got in under the old system without prep.

How do you know?

Because one prep center took out a full-page ad in the paper and listed the names of just their clients which made up over 30% of TJ's entering class. It's not hard to imagine the other 15 prep centers share of admissions.

what prep center? you mean an AAP center? why would an AAP center advertise in a newspaper?

No, it was Curie that took out the full page with the names of their clients listed who made up 30% of the entering class that year. It's been in the news forever so assumed everyone knew this.

Does Curie offer after-school for elementary school kids? Looking to switch DC to an academically focused one from current, where kids are on the phone all the time

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Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

Agreed. FCPS's policy is pretty racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Unbelievable. Why do the so-called educators implement these crazy policies to encourage students to slack off? What's wrong with them?

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Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html

Once the admissions process was corrupted by all the prep centers making average kids appear gifted it was just a matter of time.

Stop using "prep centers" as the scapegoat.
If prep centers are the real problem, the solution will be simple.
We could just provide free prep services for any URMs who are interested.
Then, the TJ student population will resemble the US population.

I'm just curious - because I delight in giving people enough rope to hang themselves - what do YOU think the real problem is?

The problem is we can't simply spend $20k on Cuire classes to guarantee our children entry like the good old days. You have to actually be talented now. It's so crazy and unfair!

Either you are paid by Curie or a fool to repeatedly mention their name on these forums and unaware of free publicity it provides them

Go to prep class still need to study and practice. Why do prep if we can just change the admission process to get it?
Why pay back the student loan if other taxpayers pay for it?
Why work if the welfare check is coming?
Why buy if we can steal?

What point were you trying to make with this incoherent word salad?

Some people just want the prestige of being students of TJ. They do not really want to study hard and learn advanced STEM education. They don't even want to prepare for the admission exams.

And how do you know how hard they work?

Seriously - how do you know what those kids do when they’re at home?

If they can get in by merit, they don't need this new admission process that favors them unethically.

DP, but the old system favored those who could pay for prep classes and game the system. Not by merit.
Now I see why you protest.

There are many admitted students who did not have prep classes under the old system.
The new system just unfairly hurt this group of students.

I don't have any issue with banning all the prep centers.

A merit-based system should be used.

Waiiiiiit a minute.

How does the new process unfairly hurt kids who were admitted by the old system without prep? They got into the school, didn’t they? It’s not like they were retroactively kicked out of the school after the admissions process changed.

Explain it to me like I’m five.

Because they got into the school under the old system without prep. Now the reputation of the school is falling (and everyone is following this nationwide). So they, as TJ students, won't get the national awards and/or college placements they might have under the old system where TJ was no. 1 and everyone knew it. It's like watching the rearrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic.

That's so unusual. Almost nobody got in under the old system without prep.

How do you know?

Because one prep center took out a full-page ad in the paper and listed the names of just their clients which made up over 30% of TJ's entering class. It's not hard to imagine the other 15 prep centers share of admissions.

what prep center? you mean an AAP center? why would an AAP center advertise in a newspaper?

No, it was Curie that took out the full page with the names of their clients listed who made up 30% of the entering class that year. It's been in the news forever so assumed everyone knew this.

Does Curie offer after-school for elementary school kids? Looking to switch DC to an academically focused one from current, where kids are on the phone all the time

They have enrichment starting in early ES.

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“enrichment” is a relative term.. mostly 1-2 grade higher math

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Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html

Once the admissions process was corrupted by all the prep centers making average kids appear gifted it was just a matter of time.

Stop using "prep centers" as the scapegoat.
If prep centers are the real problem, the solution will be simple.
We could just provide free prep services for any URMs who are interested.
Then, the TJ student population will resemble the US population.

I'm just curious - because I delight in giving people enough rope to hang themselves - what do YOU think the real problem is?

The problem is we can't simply spend $20k on Cuire classes to guarantee our children entry like the good old days. You have to actually be talented now. It's so crazy and unfair!

Either you are paid by Curie or a fool to repeatedly mention their name on these forums and unaware of free publicity it provides them

Go to prep class still need to study and practice. Why do prep if we can just change the admission process to get it?
Why pay back the student loan if other taxpayers pay for it?
Why work if the welfare check is coming?
Why buy if we can steal?

What point were you trying to make with this incoherent word salad?

Some people just want the prestige of being students of TJ. They do not really want to study hard and learn advanced STEM education. They don't even want to prepare for the admission exams.

And how do you know how hard they work?

Seriously - how do you know what those kids do when they’re at home?

If they can get in by merit, they don't need this new admission process that favors them unethically.

DP, but the old system favored those who could pay for prep classes and game the system. Not by merit.
Now I see why you protest.

There are many admitted students who did not have prep classes under the old system.
The new system just unfairly hurt this group of students.

I don't have any issue with banning all the prep centers.

A merit-based system should be used.

Waiiiiiit a minute.

How does the new process unfairly hurt kids who were admitted by the old system without prep? They got into the school, didn’t they? It’s not like they were retroactively kicked out of the school after the admissions process changed.

Explain it to me like I’m five.

Because they got into the school under the old system without prep. Now the reputation of the school is falling (and everyone is following this nationwide). So they, as TJ students, won't get the national awards and/or college placements they might have under the old system where TJ was no. 1 and everyone knew it. It's like watching the rearrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic.

That's so unusual. Almost nobody got in under the old system without prep.

How do you know?

Because one prep center took out a full-page ad in the paper and listed the names of just their clients which made up over 30% of TJ's entering class. It's not hard to imagine the other 15 prep centers share of admissions.

what prep center? you mean an AAP center? why would an AAP center advertise in a newspaper?

No, it was Curie that took out the full page with the names of their clients listed who made up 30% of the entering class that year. It's been in the news forever so assumed everyone knew this.

Does Curie offer after-school for elementary school kids? Looking to switch DC to an academically focused one from current, where kids are on the phone all the time

They have enrichment starting in early ES.

Curie website mentions their levels may not correspond to school grade, and they require placement test. Does this mean kids may not be grouped by their age or grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

Why do you call people racist? Blank paper, in this case, is worth 50% of the grade. So, it does matter.

[Anonymous]

Let's vote off these liberals in the upcoming election.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

Why do you call people racist? Blank paper, in this case, is worth 50% of the grade. So, it does matter.

Remember, the blank paper is 100% white. Cannot be more racist than that.

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Anonymous wrote:What really happened? How much of this is FCPS' own doing?

https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/thomas-jefferson-high-school-drops-to-5th-in-latest-us-news-ranking/article_b4ce2886-4692-11ee-a98b-4b0dbcb840c2.html

Once the admissions process was corrupted by all the prep centers making average kids appear gifted it was just a matter of time.

Stop using "prep centers" as the scapegoat.
If prep centers are the real problem, the solution will be simple.
We could just provide free prep services for any URMs who are interested.
Then, the TJ student population will resemble the US population.

I'm just curious - because I delight in giving people enough rope to hang themselves - what do YOU think the real problem is?

The problem is we can't simply spend $20k on Cuire classes to guarantee our children entry like the good old days. You have to actually be talented now. It's so crazy and unfair!

Either you are paid by Curie or a fool to repeatedly mention their name on these forums and unaware of free publicity it provides them

Go to prep class still need to study and practice. Why do prep if we can just change the admission process to get it?
Why pay back the student loan if other taxpayers pay for it?
Why work if the welfare check is coming?
Why buy if we can steal?

What point were you trying to make with this incoherent word salad?

Some people just want the prestige of being students of TJ. They do not really want to study hard and learn advanced STEM education. They don't even want to prepare for the admission exams.

And how do you know how hard they work?

Seriously - how do you know what those kids do when they’re at home?

If they can get in by merit, they don't need this new admission process that favors them unethically.

DP, but the old system favored those who could pay for prep classes and game the system. Not by merit.
Now I see why you protest.

There are many admitted students who did not have prep classes under the old system.
The new system just unfairly hurt this group of students.

I don't have any issue with banning all the prep centers.

A merit-based system should be used.

Waiiiiiit a minute.

How does the new process unfairly hurt kids who were admitted by the old system without prep? They got into the school, didn’t they? It’s not like they were retroactively kicked out of the school after the admissions process changed.

Explain it to me like I’m five.

Because they got into the school under the old system without prep. Now the reputation of the school is falling (and everyone is following this nationwide). So they, as TJ students, won't get the national awards and/or college placements they might have under the old system where TJ was no. 1 and everyone knew it. It's like watching the rearrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic.

That's so unusual. Almost nobody got in under the old system without prep.

How do you know?

Because one prep center took out a full-page ad in the paper and listed the names of just their clients which made up over 30% of TJ's entering class. It's not hard to imagine the other 15 prep centers share of admissions.

what prep center? you mean an AAP center? why would an AAP center advertise in a newspaper?

No, it was Curie that took out the full page with the names of their clients listed who made up 30% of the entering class that year. It's been in the news forever so assumed everyone knew this.

Does Curie offer after-school for elementary school kids? Looking to switch DC to an academically focused one from current, where kids are on the phone all the time

They have enrichment starting in early ES.

Curie website mentions their levels may not correspond to school grade, and they require placement test. Does this mean kids may not be grouped by their age or grade?

Most kids are grouped by their school grade, in rare situation they may recommend moving down a level and provide summer bridge classes to get back to their normal level

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

Why do you call people racist? Blank paper, in this case, is worth 50% of the grade. So, it does matter.

Remember, the blank paper is 100% white. Cannot be more racist than that.

Good point, being White is pretty rough nowadays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

Why do you call people racist? Blank paper, in this case, is worth 50% of the grade. So, it does matter.

Remember, the blank paper is 100% white. Cannot be more racist than that.

Why do you assume the blank paper is white? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's vote off these liberals in the upcoming election.

So, which right-wing think tank is paying you to post this stuff?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"FAIRFAX COUNTY, Va. - The district says teachers can now give students zeroes for assignments that aren’t turned in. Previously, a 50% was the lowest grade that teachers could give a student who did not turn work in. A 50% is still the minimum grade teachers can give for submitted assignments." (from fox new 5)

These are insane policies. FCPS loves to promote laziness and dumb down our kids.

Give it up to equitable grading policies! With both old and new policy, submitting a blank paper or a paper napkin counts as submitted assignment, and a 50% minimum is guaranteed.

Yeah! Blank Paper Matters.

Ok, racist.

Why do you call people racist? Blank paper, in this case, is worth 50% of the grade. So, it does matter.

PP thinks racial injustice is a joke.