Thomas Jefferson High School drops to 5th in latest US News ranking

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?


The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


Nobody here is getting a “free ride”. Kids are all working hard. Now, hard working kids from more MSs have access to TJ. It’s a good thing.

You deny it because you feel shame to accept the reality.


There is no shame that hard-working, well-qualified kids from more MSs now have access to TJ.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.


It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.



It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.


Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.


It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."


It is not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.


Stop just paste and copy
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?


The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


Nobody here is getting a “free ride”. Kids are all working hard. Now, hard working kids from more MSs have access to TJ. It’s a good thing.

You deny it because you feel shame to accept the reality.


There is no shame that hard-working, well-qualified kids from more MSs now have access to TJ.

Source/ any data to support your comment?
Why do you need quota then?
Why not compete fairly with others?
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?


The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time


Public school is probably free for you. I pay a lot of tax for the public school. Yes, TAX. Ring a bell?


Rich people are no more entitled to public education than anyone else. Just like they aren’t entitled to extra fire department support.

That’s not how taxes work.


Rich people are not the only people paying taxes for the public school. A lot of middle-class people do (property tax). You really have no clue where the public school funding comes from.

Why do you hate rich people so much? Most of them work hard and take risks to get ahead.

Like I said, you cannot rely on free rides/handouts to get ahead



I don’t hate rich people; I very likely make more than you. But I don’t think my kids are any more entitled to a seat at a particular school than anyone else.

And I don’t expect that I get extra police services just because I pay more property taxes than you.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?



The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time


This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?


Why are you assuming the kids attending don't like to work hard? Public school students can only take classes and join clubs that their schools offer.


Not all the kids attending, especially those who work hard and have all the credentials. The one who doesn't cry for entitlement.
Only the lazy kids who just want a quota for them to get in TJ.


Is grammar not your strong suit? I'm sure there is a coherent thought in there somewhere, but it's sure hiding.


A significant portion of FCPS parents are first-generation immigrants working in stem professions, many having attained bachelor's degrees in their home countries, studying in their native languages. Once in US, they pickup necessary English academic and technical writing skills, but most may lack swift typing and texting abilities with proper grammar. This discrepancy is more pronounced among immigrants outside STEM fields, like in landscaping, handyman services, etc. Pointing this out would be in poor taste, unless one intends to display racial prejudice against foreign born immigrants.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?


The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


Nobody here is getting a “free ride”. Kids are all working hard. Now, hard working kids from more MSs have access to TJ. It’s a good thing.

You deny it because you feel shame to accept the reality.


There is no shame that hard-working, well-qualified kids from more MSs now have access to TJ.

Source/ any data to support your comment?
Why do you need quota then?
Why not compete fairly with others?


All kids met GPA/course criteria. These kids have higher GPAs, on average, than before the change.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.


It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.



It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.


Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.


It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."


It is not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.


Stop just paste and copy


Stop posting lies.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?


The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


Nobody here is getting a “free ride”. Kids are all working hard. Now, hard working kids from more MSs have access to TJ. It’s a good thing.

You deny it because you feel shame to accept the reality.


There is no shame that hard-working, well-qualified kids from more MSs now have access to TJ.

Source/ any data to support your comment?
Why do you need quota then?
Why not compete fairly with others?


All kids met GPA/course criteria. These kids have higher GPAs, on average, than before the change.


Then why there are quotas in the system?
You still don't want to admit the reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.


It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.



It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.


Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.


It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."


It is not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.


Stop just paste and copy


Stop posting lies.


You are a pathetic liar, panhandler
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?


The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


Nobody here is getting a “free ride”. Kids are all working hard. Now, hard working kids from more MSs have access to TJ. It’s a good thing.

You deny it because you feel shame to accept the reality.


There is no shame that hard-working, well-qualified kids from more MSs now have access to TJ.

Source/ any data to support your comment?
Why do you need quota then?
Why not compete fairly with others?


All kids met GPA/course criteria. These kids have higher GPAs, on average, than before the change.


Then why there are quotas in the system?
You still don't want to admit the reality.



There aren’t race-based quotas. There are seats open to all MSs - if and only if they have qualified applicants.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.


It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.



It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.


Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.


It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."


It wis not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.


Stop just paste and copy


Stop posting lies.


You are a pathetic liar, panhandler


Sorry, the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter when the rankings were made. People have already said TJ's scores will go down because they are no longer selecting for students who do well on tests. A high ranking is not the goal.

However, scores might go up, since someone posted above that the scores are compared to the expectations based on the racial makeup of the school. With more blacks and Hispanics, who will presumably outperform the typical black and Hispanic student. the test rankings might go up.



But a high ranking is the goal. To the parents.
The fact that their child's education is excellent, that US News rankings don't really matter and that the article says there's little difference between 5th and 1st doesn't matter.
The rankings matter so the parents can feel superior.


And this is why TJ is such a healthier place now - they've begun replacing the parents. The kids selected by the old process have never been the problem.


How's TJ healthier now? Why suppressing the parents (the tax payers) is a good thing?



The focus is moving away from prestige and individualism and in the direction of a complete education that prepares students to collaborate with a 21st century population.


So, implementing discrimination and parent suppression would achieve that. Wow


Race is not considered during the admissions process.

And Asians have the highest rate and number of admissions. So...

No discrimination.

Don't lie. The main reason to keep changing the admission process is to engineer the racial demographic


Nope. It was to provide opportunities to kids from ALL middle schools.


You cannot get free rides all the time. At some point in your life you have to work hard to get ahead.


It's a public school that serves as the magnet for a whole region. If you don't like that, pay for private. After all, you can't get free rides all the time


This is a magnet school. If you don't like to work hard, why go there?


Why are you assuming the kids attending don't like to work hard? Public school students can only take classes and join clubs that their schools offer.


Not all the kids attending, especially those who work hard and have all the credentials. The one who doesn't cry for entitlement.
Only the lazy kids who just want a quota for them to get in TJ.


Is grammar not your strong suit? I'm sure there is a coherent thought in there somewhere, but it's sure hiding.


A significant portion of FCPS parents are first-generation immigrants working in stem professions, many having attained bachelor's degrees in their home countries, studying in their native languages. Once in US, they pickup necessary English academic and technical writing skills, but most may lack swift typing and texting abilities with proper grammar. This discrepancy is more pronounced among immigrants outside STEM fields, like in landscaping, handyman services, etc. Pointing this out would be in poor taste, unless one intends to display racial prejudice against foreign born immigrants.


Good point.
If the immigrants get learn English and get a bachelor's/PhD, why the kids grown up here can not do well on tests?
Whom do they learn it from all the entitlement BS?
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Hopefully the kids learn more about how taxes work.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazingly, so many people in this forum believe discrimination and war on meritocracy are good for our country.


It’s not discrimination.

Not race based and Asians have the highest number and rate of admission.



It is discrimination. You can not based on race to reject applicants, regardless of the situation.


Not discrimination.

Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.


It is wrong. The race-based admission process is unethical.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote: "Many universities have for too long wrongly concluded that the touchstone of an individual's identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned, but the color of their skin."


It wis not race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.


Stop just paste and copy


Stop posting lies.


You are a pathetic liar, panhandler


Sorry, the truth can be a bitter pill to swallow.

The current admissions process is NOT race-based.

And Asians students have the highest number of admits and the highest rate of admission.

No discrimination.


It is not fair. It is a process that promotes laziness and penalizes meritocracy.
Sorry, you are so dumb. Now I understand why you need quotas to stay afloat.
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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully the kids learn more about how taxes work.


Not likely
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