NWLL baseball scandal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWLL parents are one of the many reasons I am glad I have never lived in AU Park. This story just reeks of the people I have met from there.

The NWLL boundaries are very large. It covers Foggy Bottom, Dupont, Georgetown, Palisades, Glover Park, Spring Valley, Wesley Heights, City Center, parts of Kalorama, Woodly Park, Cleveland Park and AU Park.
And anyone who goes to school in this area is allowed to register for NWLL as well: NPS, St. Pats, Holy Trinity, BSW, Aidan Montessori, Beauvoir, The Lab School of Washington, OLV, Annunciation, the River School and I am sure I left schools out.

But I if you feel great about slamming AU Park - go to town.

The AU Parkers I met through NWLL and in other endeavors fit the bill described here.

[Anonymous]

Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Y-A-W-N.

Your comment was sufficiently rebutted when you posted it to the Washington Post earlier.

Little League is a neighborhood game, where kids living in the same neighborhoods or who may be classmates can play in an organized league. It does not discriminate on the basis of race, is not a follow-on to Jim Crow, and your attempts at turning this into a racial issue are shameful.

There are plenty of things one can take issue with regarding little league, but this isn't one of them.

[Anonymous]

I coached NWLL teams for about 5 years. I was one of the "lame coaches" that tried to keep kids in our school together, regardless of talent. It worked for a couple years and the kids played almost every position (even the most talented kids had to play the outfield positions and we let kids try to pitch). It was ugly, but everyone played and had a good time.

Fast forward a few years to 10u-12u. It became very competitive. There were "try outs" for the draft. Many of the "seasoned" coaches told their best players not to attend the evaluation. They stacked their teams with the top talent. It became apparent early on who the coaches were doing this.

What bummed me out the most is trying to teach young boys the game of baseball only for them to get destroyed by the stacked teams. It wasn't uncommon for our games to be called over by the "mercy rule" after two or three innings. I pleaded with other coaches and umpires to let the kids play for the fun of the game. It always fell on deaf ears.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Y-A-W-N.

Your comment was sufficiently rebutted when you posted it to the Washington Post earlier.

Little League is a neighborhood game, where kids living in the same neighborhoods or who may be classmates can play in an organized league. It does not discriminate on the basis of race, is not a follow-on to Jim Crow, and your attempts at turning this into a racial issue are shameful.

There are plenty of things one can take issue with regarding little league, but this isn't one of them.

Answer me this: why does Little League even have boundaries? No other youth sport does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Agreed.

So much scheming and focus on 12-14 kids for 2 weeks when the vast majority of kids will never play on a tournament team.

Agree- but

By the time these boys get to be 11 or 12 years old they are ready for more serious competition than the “everyone plays” model. The ones who make the all star team have been working harder than other kids for years, so why shouldn’t they see the rewards of competing at the next level?

This is the age that starts to separate the more serious athletes from the kids who are not interested in or capable of playing at the next level. Presumably they have other talents and go on to do other things. Often it is parents who are the most disappointed, not the kids themselves.

In the LL in my county the best kids didn’t get selected. Who you were buddies with mattered more. Someone also disappeared the ratings paperwork that rated all the players. There is so much slimeyness in kids sports

I despise every one of the board members who did not speak up. The people who profit from the corrupt member are just as bad.

Excluding children from playing is such horrible behavior.

Also who is the azz who keeps blaming democrats for this cesspool of an organization?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Didn’t realize this. This is a good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Y-A-W-N.

Your comment was sufficiently rebutted when you posted it to the Washington Post earlier.

Little League is a neighborhood game, where kids living in the same neighborhoods or who may be classmates can play in an organized league. It does not discriminate on the basis of race, is not a follow-on to Jim Crow, and your attempts at turning this into a racial issue are shameful.

There are plenty of things one can take issue with regarding little league, but this isn't one of them.

Answer me this: why does Little League even have boundaries? No other youth sport does.

To prevent Bethesda kids from playing for DC teams where they don’t live or go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having coached in Capital City Little League for eight years, there is nothing new about these dust-ups. - In the run up to the 1999 finals in DC (the winner was to go to the regionals in Connecticut), Northwest LL filed a protest with Little League, accusing two of our key players of being "out of boundaries" I was co-coaching Capital City tournament team, and as the lawyer coach, I had to respond to these accusations. But I did so in short letter, I never circulated my letter or the letter written by NW (of course a lawyer) and Little League quickly resolved the dust-up in our favor.

We beat Northwest in the finals and then had a great run in the regionals, losing in extra innings the deciding game to the Toms River New Jersey team that went on to win the tournament. Our kids had a gas, and many went on to play baseball or other sports in high school and college. One of our outfielders was a 5th round draft choice by the Rays. That is the right story for youth sports.

This year's story is a bonfire of vanities. The nastiness of the story will have a long tale; there are no heroes here, just angry combatants who have lost sight that what matters here are the kids, not the egos of parents. The 1999 dust up resulted in lots of hard feelings, which still sting to this day. This dust up will continue to reverberate at least as long.

One point of youth athletics is to instill in kids the virtue of hard work, fair play and kindness to others. Something is seriously amiss in Northwest Little League when laundry this dirty is aired to all. Where is the virtue here? And where are the real grown ups? And what lessons does this scorched earth fight teach kids? Nothing good will come of this. All so sad.

It sounds as if you don’t agree with the parents who are shining a light on awful behavior. When it comes to kids we shouldn’t be hiding this kind of abuse. Allowing the abuse to continue is unacceptable. I can’t get over the petty tyrant Davenport retaliating against children so they could not play. Adults who bully children deserve a special hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Didn’t realize this. This is a good point.

There's no reason DC couldn't have one Little League for the whole city. Let kids play for whatever team they want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Y-A-W-N.

Your comment was sufficiently rebutted when you posted it to the Washington Post earlier.

Little League is a neighborhood game, where kids living in the same neighborhoods or who may be classmates can play in an organized league. It does not discriminate on the basis of race, is not a follow-on to Jim Crow, and your attempts at turning this into a racial issue are shameful.

There are plenty of things one can take issue with regarding little league, but this isn't one of them.

Np. I live in the outer suburbs and it absolutely creates racial divides and disparities. You see very very few black players and coaches in our LL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Y-A-W-N.

Your comment was sufficiently rebutted when you posted it to the Washington Post earlier.

Little League is a neighborhood game, where kids living in the same neighborhoods or who may be classmates can play in an organized league. It does not discriminate on the basis of race, is not a follow-on to Jim Crow, and your attempts at turning this into a racial issue are shameful.

There are plenty of things one can take issue with regarding little league, but this isn't one of them.

Answer me this: why does Little League even have boundaries? No other youth sport does.

To prevent Bethesda kids from playing for DC teams where they don’t live or go to school.

Intra-DC boundaries don't prevent that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Didn’t realize this. This is a good point.

There's no reason DC couldn't have one Little League for the whole city. Let kids play for whatever team they want to. [/quot

LLI doesn’t allow it. You could play a different type of youth rec baseball, but you would not be allowed to call it LL.

There are restrictions on how many kids reside in certain geographic boundaries before you have to create a new LL.

You can share the same overhead. McLean LL shares the same overhead but technically has two LLs based on where kids reside and go to school. I think they call it American and National and they field two different all star teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what's missing: Why does Little League even have eligibility boundaries in the first place? No other youth sport does.

It's a direct legacy of Jim Crow. Little League began when racial segregation in every aspect of American life was the norm. Neighborhood boundaries were a proxy for race when residential segregation was enforced by law.

DC Department of Parks and Recreation regulations prohibit the use of city-owned facilities by organizations that discriminate. The DC Human Rights Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of residential address. DC should enforce its laws and put an end to this.

Didn’t realize this. This is a good point.

There's no reason DC couldn't have one Little League for the whole city. Let kids play for whatever team they want to. [/quot

LLI doesn’t allow it. You could play a different type of youth rec baseball, but you would not be allowed to call it LL.

There are restrictions on how many kids reside in certain geographic boundaries before you have to create a new LL.

You can share the same overhead. McLean LL shares the same overhead but technically has two LLs based on where kids reside and go to school. I think they call it American and National and they field two different all star teams.

What's the number? There are definitely LL's that have more players than all the DC LL's combined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NWLL parents are one of the many reasons I am glad I have never lived in AU Park. This story just reeks of the people I have met from there.

The NWLL boundaries are very large. It covers Foggy Bottom, Dupont, Georgetown, Palisades, Glover Park, Spring Valley, Wesley Heights, City Center, parts of Kalorama, Woodly Park, Cleveland Park and AU Park.
And anyone who goes to school in this area is allowed to register for NWLL as well: NPS, St. Pats, Holy Trinity, BSW, Aidan Montessori, Beauvoir, The Lab School of Washington, OLV, Annunciation, the River School and I am sure I left schools out.

But I if you feel great about slamming AU Park - go to town.

I am pretty sure DuPont and Foggy Bottom are Banneker. However, it is a large boundary.

Per the boundary map - they are NWLL:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1k5xsSjAHXlj4_7_z76_ajb-l5nc&ll=38.89366967367667%2C-77.0145771&z=10