Will Admissions Officers pick up on clues in application regarding URM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the AOs.

They’re going to be reading one essay after the next about how that applicant was persecuted or discriminated against.

You're late to the party.

Inspiration counts too!

Keep hope alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the AOs.

They’re going to be reading one essay after the next about how that applicant was persecuted or discriminated against.

As POC, we have MANY stories to tell about the racist crap we endure every day in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

Exactly. Based on the latest data published by the College Board (the organization that administers the SAT) 10,000 URM students scored in the top percentiles (1400-1600) on the SAT.

https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2022-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

Exactly. Based on the latest data published by the College Board (the organization that administers the SAT) 10,000 URM students scored in the top percentiles (1400-1600) on the SAT.

https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2022-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report.pdf

1400 is very different than 1500 (or 1600).

Even so, 1% African American scored in that band; Hispanic 2%. Asian Am. 27%.

And let's remember that the Harvard case showed that Asian Am. had high marks for extra curricular activities, and leadership.

[Anonymous]

Yeah it’s going to make it hard to identify the people who actually have faced significant discrimination — they will be drowned out by applicants who have been coached on what to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the AOs.

They’re going to be reading one essay after the next about how that applicant was persecuted or discriminated against.

As POC, we have MANY stories to tell about the racist crap we endure every day in this country.

Do AOs really like whiners?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the AOs.

They’re going to be reading one essay after the next about how that applicant was persecuted or discriminated against.

As POC, we have MANY stories to tell about the racist crap we endure every day in this country.

I’m a POC and yes we do

BUT

this country is 40% minorities. That’s a lot of stories which is great if they were researchers compiling history but awful when you’re just an AO making assorted piles of applications.

And FYI, most college AOs spend mere minutes sometimes seconds on each essay. They’re going to glazing over at some point. Persecution fatigue is real.

[Anonymous]

You can almost see the competition that will occur to have the most extreme oppression story. Soon a microaggression at Starbucks won’t move the needle and it will spiral into Jussie Smolette territory: There I was walking down the street at 3 am and these two MAGA-hat wearing guys…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can almost see the competition that will occur to have the most extreme oppression story. Soon a microaggression at Starbucks won’t move the needle and it will spiral into Jussie Smolette territory: There I was walking down the street at 3 am and these two MAGA-hat wearing guys…

It's going to be like writing about hardship you had during pandemic. Everybody warned stay away from the topic lol

[Anonymous]

Fortunately, the need for oppression stories comes at a time when the good ol’ fashioned hoax has been joined by 3 other forms of manufactured outrage:

Micro aggressions (there aren’t enough real aggressions these days — if there were, I wouldn’t have to resort to pointing out these that you can’t see with the naked eye)

Cultural appropriation (remember how we just spent 50 years hoping you’d appreciate our culture? Now we are hoping you didn’t)

White privilege (ok, nobody’s currently doing anything to hamper us—otherwise I would be pointing THAT out—but most of those guys had it easy)

[Anonymous]

This is getting so comical. Having to deal with the Karens of every day life here in the USA is nothing like having to trek thousands of miles on foot with a hungry baby bc they are escaping whatever in Central, South America... Nothing like surviving in Ukraine war zone... While dealing with the Karens in the USA, you are still living the top 1% lifestyle in the world. Get real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

Exactly. Based on the latest data published by the College Board (the organization that administers the SAT) 10,000 URM students scored in the top percentiles (1400-1600) on the SAT.

https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2022-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report.pdf

1400 is very different than 1500 (or 1600).

Even so, 1% African American scored in that band; Hispanic 2%. Asian Am. 27%.

And let's remember that the Harvard case showed that Asian Am. had high marks for extra curricular activities, and leadership.

You are simply wrong. 1400 is 97th percentile. Get your facts straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

Exactly. Based on the latest data published by the College Board (the organization that administers the SAT) 10,000 URM students scored in the top percentiles (1400-1600) on the SAT.

https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2022-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report.pdf

1400 is very different than 1500 (or 1600).

Even so, 1% African American scored in that band; Hispanic 2%. Asian Am. 27%.

And let's remember that the Harvard case showed that Asian Am. had high marks for extra curricular activities, and leadership.

You are simply wrong. 1400 is 97th percentile. Get your facts straight.

97th percentiles will have trouble keeping up with the 99th percentiles at ivies. In anything that's more complicated than micky mouse courses, they will have trouble keeping up with their 99th classmates. Read Thomas Sowell about his experience in teaching the 97th vs 99th at Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

yeah, what about 100000 asian kids with 1500+ scores. something about them not inspiring enough? that's how it ended up with supreme court to begin with

They are all impressive and qualified. But this belligerent insistence that all URM students that get admitted to top schools are there because they got "extra points" from the admissions officers is insulting AF.

We know very well what it is like to have your successes dismissed and / or minimized and a lot of black families supported the case. Just please stop shi*ting on the handful of our kids that are admitted on equal merit.

Seriously - Please Stop.

dp.. but, it's the truth. This is what affirmative action has lead to.

Getting rid of aa means that people will no longer question how that URM got into an elite college.

I wish I could meet you in person to look in your eyes to see if you truly believe the BS you post

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

Exactly. Based on the latest data published by the College Board (the organization that administers the SAT) 10,000 URM students scored in the top percentiles (1400-1600) on the SAT.

https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2022-total-group-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report.pdf

1400 is very different than 1500 (or 1600).

Even so, 1% African American scored in that band; Hispanic 2%. Asian Am. 27%.

And let's remember that the Harvard case showed that Asian Am. had high marks for extra curricular activities, and leadership.

You are simply wrong. 1400 is 97th percentile. Get your facts straight.

97th percentiles will have trouble keeping up with the 99th percentiles at ivies. In anything that's more complicated than micky mouse courses, they will have trouble keeping up with their 99th classmates. Read Thomas Sowell about his experience in teaching the 97th vs 99th at Cornell.

For every Thomas Sowell there are two professors who disagree and say these students did fine. Of course he is quoted because he is a black man who feeds the racists what they want to believe.