Will Admissions Officers pick up on clues in application regarding URM?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

1400-1450 is a UMBC level. And even then, whites with that score may not get in.

Look up holistic admissions.

"Merit"is not just what you want it to be. The "SAT is all" contingent is funny.

When evaluation a Harvard degree, look up holistic evaluation. A Harvard diploma isn't all that for certain grads - legacies, donors, athletes, and a few others...

We all know Jared Kushner's H degree is a joke. It's called holistic evaluation.

[Anonymous]

I can’t believe how desperate all y’all are - which tells me you are not that smart, after all.

Stay in your lane and don’t mind so much what other groups are or are not doing.

In the end, you are only in competition with your own.

Full stop. No law suit will change that. You are stupid to think otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how desperate all y’all are - which tells me you are not that smart, after all.

Stay in your lane and don’t mind so much what other groups are or are not doing.

In the end, you are only in competition with your own.

Full stop. No law suit will change that. You are stupid to think otherwise.

Your own as in your own academic peers? Or your own as in in gender, race, ethnicity, zip code?

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Anonymous wrote:How are the uber-wealthy URMs, many of whom go to elite private schools in the DMV (we all know them), going to write essays talking about how disadvantaged they are? These are kids who have been getting into Ivies, etc., but I'm not sure they will be anymore. This is the group the USSC decision will impact most, not the first gen URMs or URMs at privates on financial aid.

The essays can come from inspiration as well. Read Justice Roberts concurring opinion.

Robert's opinion states the following regarding essays:

But,despite the dissent’s assertion to the contrary, universities
may not simply establish through application essays or
other means the regime we hold unlawful today. (A dissent-
ing opinion is generally not the best source of legal advice
on how to comply with the majority opinion.) “[W]hat can-
not be done directly cannot be done indirectly.

You missed this part:

“Nothing in this opinion should be construed as prohibiting universities from considering an applicant’s discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration or otherwise.”

So.. if an Asian kid writes about how faced discrimination because they were Asian would make them count under the new, invisible URM 'quota'? Or will Asians continue to be considered as the 'other' and discriminated against as they already are?

Asian inspiration stories don't count. Come on now.

Is the “inspiration” how many chose to Uncle Tom URMs?

Nobody even knows what this means. Who is uncle tom

I had to google that. Man... wow... PP went all the way back to 1852 to find an epithet.

If you had to google this you know 0 black people.

I am a recent immigrant. Check your privilege

LOL! Being an immigrant is no excuse for being stupid.

+100 how can you not know Uncle Tom? Immigrant or not, if you are educated through just high school you will know the reference (even if you haven’t read the book).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

1400-1450 is a UMBC level. And even then, whites with that score may not get in.

Look up holistic admissions.

"Merit"is not just what you want it to be. The "SAT is all" contingent is funny.

I don’t think most people have a problem with holistic admissions when it’s positioning that an elite athlete (excluding wealth proxy sports like sailing), musician or other superstar in a particular activity is getting into an elite college over someone that may have a higher SAT score.

The issue is that URM status in and of itself turned into effectively being considered to be the equivalent of a superstar in a non-athletic activity. (It’s acknowledged that being a recruited athlete regardless of race is the single best admissions hook anyone can have.) *That* is what people have a problem with.

Now, we can argue whether URM status should be considered in that same vein or not, but it’s way too flippant to just critique those that have an issue with the way Affirmative Action was applied as those that just care about a sole GPA/SAT ranking. There are other acknowledged forms of “merit” - athletic, artistic, leadership, etc. - that aren’t simply based on grades and test scores and I don’t think the majority of people are bothered by those applicants getting an admissions advantage at all. It’s the application of race specifically as the advantageous equivalent of those other types of holistic “merit” considerations that is both politically unpopular and now legally prohibited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how desperate all y’all are - which tells me you are not that smart, after all.

Stay in your lane and don’t mind so much what other groups are or are not doing.

In the end, you are only in competition with your own.

Full stop. No law suit will change that. You are stupid to think otherwise.

Harvard lost.
Being hysterical isn't helping you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at Brookings also. They reported around 2300 black students scored over 1500.

That is not many.

But hypothetically speaking if the t20 were to divvy them evenly up that would be more than 100 per freshman class.

All of this is just to say that these students exist and belong at t20 schools along with their academic peers.

SAT is pretty much irrelevant, BUT, 1400-1450 combined with ECs, essays, recs can seal the deal.

Better than most ALDCs, so don't hate on URMs. Very much qualified. Thanks.

1400-1450 is a UMBC level. And even then, whites with that score may not get in.

Look up holistic admissions.

"Merit"is not just what you want it to be. The "SAT is all" contingent is funny.

When evaluation a Harvard degree, look up holistic evaluation. A Harvard diploma isn't all that for certain grads - legacies, donors, athletes, and a few others...

We all know Jared Kushner's H degree is a joke. It's called holistic evaluation.

Well, to be fair, let's not forget Michelle O's case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how desperate all y’all are - which tells me you are not that smart, after all.

Stay in your lane and don’t mind so much what other groups are or are not doing.

In the end, you are only in competition with your own.

Full stop. No law suit will change that. You are stupid to think otherwise.

Your own as in your own academic peers? Or your own as in in gender, race, ethnicity, zip code?

This is really telling isn’t it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how desperate all y’all are - which tells me you are not that smart, after all.

Stay in your lane and don’t mind so much what other groups are or are not doing.

In the end, you are only in competition with your own.

Full stop. No law suit will change that. You are stupid to think otherwise.

Your own as in your own academic peers? Or your own as in in gender, race, ethnicity, zip code?

This is really telling isn’t it.

We all love you. We are trying to help you. Direct some of your energy, resource, and time in improving things at the K-12 level so disadvantaged kids can kick ass when they come up for college. They are just as smart as Asians, whites, and Jews when nurtured from the earlier age. This will help these kids in college and in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe how desperate all y’all are - which tells me you are not that smart, after all.

Stay in your lane and don’t mind so much what other groups are or are not doing.

In the end, you are only in competition with your own.

Full stop. No law suit will change that. You are stupid to think otherwise.

Your own as in your own academic peers? Or your own as in in gender, race, ethnicity, zip code?

This is really telling isn’t it.

We all love you. We are trying to help you. Direct some of your energy, resource, and time in improving things at the K-12 level so disadvantaged kids can kick ass when they come up for college. They are just as smart as Asians, whites, and Jews when nurtured from the earlier age. This will help these kids in college and in life.

That's a huge "IF"... I don't see that happening, do you?

[Anonymous]

“Asians, whites, and Jews”. Almost a parody

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Asians, whites, and Jews”. Almost a parody

Sounds like somebody who can't let their peas touch their mashed potatoes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Asians, whites, and Jews”. Almost a parody

Clearly a racist. Nothing “almost” about it.

[Anonymous]

It is impossible and unnecessary to pretend you are someone other than who you are are. Be yourself and put your best foot forward.

[Anonymous]

I feel sorry for the AOs.

They’re going to be reading one essay after the next about how that applicant was persecuted or discriminated against.