Will Admissions Officers pick up on clues in application regarding URM?

[Anonymous]

The S Ct decision states any URM who discusses race in essays would need to tie it to some actual impact in life, but wouldn’t Admissions Officers still pick up on clues in the application, such as a mention of parents Heritage or clubs or awards that signal URM representation. It would not help applicants at the lower end of recent admits (25th percentile), but would it not favor applicants at say the 50th percentile. If I were an AO I would want to lock in those URMs to avoid a steep decline in URMs.

[Anonymous]

Of course AOs will. Justice Roberts said it was OK for any applicant to discuss race in an essay. Smart AOs will note those along with stellar academic credentials and ECs for the URMs.

[Anonymous]

Of course, it will be an effective workaround. Good counselors can frame strategically in their rec letters as well.

[Anonymous]

Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.

No, schools cannot do that per court decision. I don't know why you believe little will change. Read CA school system's failed effort.

[Anonymous]

As an alternative to affirmative action, colleges from California to Florida have tried a range of strategies to achieve the diversity they say is essential to their campuses. Many have given greater preference to low-income families. Others started admitting top students from every community in their state.

But years of experimentation — often prompted by state-level bans on considering race in admissions — left no clear solution. In states requiring race-neutral policies, many colleges saw enrollment drops among Black and Hispanic students, especially at selective colleges that historically have been mostly white.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-affirmative-action-diversity-5551cdb2b7206cd9112433e858be4d59

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an alternative to affirmative action, colleges from California to Florida have tried a range of strategies to achieve the diversity they say is essential to their campuses. Many have given greater preference to low-income families. Others started admitting top students from every community in their state.

But years of experimentation — often prompted by state-level bans on considering race in admissions — left no clear solution. In states requiring race-neutral policies, many colleges saw enrollment drops among Black and Hispanic students, especially at selective colleges that historically have been mostly white.

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-affirmative-action-diversity-5551cdb2b7206cd9112433e858be4d59

Scratch Florida.

DeSantis is nuts.

[Anonymous]

A person wouldn’t need to include their URM status in their essay as there will still be a box for that on the application: race/identity section.

[Anonymous]

Yes, name, zip code, self identification in essay. Once they have a pool of say twice the class size a simple look at social media would enable whatever fine tuning is necessary to shape the class they want. Simply checking to make sure they founded the club listed on their application justifies the check.

[Anonymous]

If you think you know how to do this, reach out to Adcom Directors. They would love to hear from you. LOL

[Anonymous]

All you constitutional scholars should recognize that applicants still have their First Amendment rights. No one needs to "hint" anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think you know how to do this, reach out to Adcom Directors. They would love to hear from you. LOL

The AOs had workarounds ready even before Roberts left a wide open way to identify URMs( he was too cute by a half).

They got this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think you know how to do this, reach out to Adcom Directors. They would love to hear from you. LOL

The AOs had workarounds ready even before Roberts left a wide open way to identify URMs( he was too cute by a half).

They got this.

If saying that helps you sleep better, go ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Students are allowed to say whatever they want to say in an essay. As far as I know, schools are fully entitled to ask applicants to voluntarily identify their race. Schools will easily—and appropriately—be able to give URMs a boost, if necessary. The decision provides a road map for colleges to follow. As a practical matter, little will change.

No, schools cannot do that per court decision. I don't know why you believe little will change. Read CA school system's failed effort.

What is this “failed effort” that you keep harping on? Again, CA schools are the most diverse in the US.

[Anonymous]

For those who think colleges already have a workaround in place, I did not see many URMs at my kid's ivy. Just walk around. This is admittedly a sample size of 1 ivy. However, I've not been able to verify published URM demographics.