$2M no bid contract to Joftus wife? BOE to approve on 9/8

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

I was a middle school tech teacher. To my knowledge Kid museum is unique with it’s space. Many many of the middle schools have similar facilities. Just not large enough for more than a typical 30 to 40 student course. The big difference is the their staffing. One tech teacher with a group of 30 or 40 can only accomplish so much in a 45 minute period with a large group. Kid museum can organize up to 60 or so max but with several staff with student for several hours. A lot of the groups that go to kid museum are recruited from the school so the kids are more engaged as well.

Again nothing the kid museum does is particularly unique in my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

I was a middle school tech teacher. To my knowledge Kid museum is unique with it’s space. Many many of the middle schools have similar facilities. Just not large enough for more than a typical 30 to 40 student course. The big difference is the their staffing. One tech teacher with a group of 30 or 40 can only accomplish so much in a 45 minute period with a large group. Kid museum can organize up to 60 or so max but with several staff with student for several hours. A lot of the groups that go to kid museum are recruited from the school so the kids are more engaged as well.

Again nothing the kid museum does is particularly unique in my opinion.

Our school used that program last year. It was really wonderful!

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

I was a middle school tech teacher. To my knowledge Kid museum is unique with it’s space. Many many of the middle schools have similar facilities. Just not large enough for more than a typical 30 to 40 student course. The big difference is the their staffing. One tech teacher with a group of 30 or 40 can only accomplish so much in a 45 minute period with a large group. Kid museum can organize up to 60 or so max but with several staff with student for several hours. A lot of the groups that go to kid museum are recruited from the school so the kids are more engaged as well.

Again nothing the kid museum does is particularly unique in my opinion.

Our school used that program last year. It was really wonderful!

Once? What was the cost?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

I was a middle school tech teacher. To my knowledge Kid museum is unique with it’s space. Many many of the middle schools have similar facilities. Just not large enough for more than a typical 30 to 40 student course. The big difference is the their staffing. One tech teacher with a group of 30 or 40 can only accomplish so much in a 45 minute period with a large group. Kid museum can organize up to 60 or so max but with several staff with student for several hours. A lot of the groups that go to kid museum are recruited from the school so the kids are more engaged as well.

Again nothing the kid museum does is particularly unique in my opinion.

It has a lot of gadgets and someone to teach. MCPS could use that technology to hire a teacher and buy the gadgets and that teacher could bring them school to school to teach the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

Really? In this area? There are a ton of organizations that would be able to do this. Plenty of STEM clubs and organizations that do field trips or come to schools to run programs.

Such as?

We had an awesome science truck come to our ES before Covid! Each class went in individually. I’d have to look up the name. But we have had several fantastic in-house field trips that are affordable and engaging. None of them had anything to do with the Kid Museum.

Our County Nature Centers are awesome! Great places for field trips and great hands-on activities.

And honestly, I would rather MCPS spend money on teachers and actual STEM materials for our MS classrooms than a place like Kid Museum that only wealthy students can access.

Talk about a lack of Equity.

This makes so much more sense to do a science truck that comes to the school. No buses, kids get the same experience, etc.

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What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

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Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

Or they could use it to hire additional teachers.

And of course, every million adds up.

Most of us are intentional about how we spend our hard-earned money. I would expect the BOE and MCPS to not be wasteful of taxpayer funds.

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Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

Good point. Do the worst math possible to make it look like no money when in fact, this same amount of money could put another full time science teacher in every single high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

Good point. Do the worst math possible to make it look like no money when in fact, this same amount of money could put another full time science teacher in every single high school.

But this contract is aimed at adding to the ES curriculum. HS science teachers don't really help there.

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

I was a middle school tech teacher. To my knowledge Kid museum is unique with it’s space. Many many of the middle schools have similar facilities. Just not large enough for more than a typical 30 to 40 student course. The big difference is the their staffing. One tech teacher with a group of 30 or 40 can only accomplish so much in a 45 minute period with a large group. Kid museum can organize up to 60 or so max but with several staff with student for several hours. A lot of the groups that go to kid museum are recruited from the school so the kids are more engaged as well.

Again nothing the kid museum does is particularly unique in my opinion.

Our school used that program last year. It was really wonderful!

Once? What was the cost?

It was free of course...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good job to whoever was bringing light to this situation. It’s obvious from the social media pr team / boosters dispatched by the board that there is some significant nepotism and corruption going on. Sadly, nothing will change.

More likely Julie Yang/MCEA's social media PR team

I don’t know much about Julie Yang, but as a voter, I will check her out.

Doesn’t matter to me how or why the information has come out. Voters deserve to know the facts and then make decisions for themselves.

Absolutely. Although a lot of this thread is not exactly what would qualify as "facts."

according to Joftus and Starr. But facts as defined by the truth. Fixed it for you.

Nice try, but no. This thread is a whole lot of opinions and accusations, along with a smattering of possibly-tangentially-relevant facts, which are evidence of nothing like what is being alleged.

I'm still interested to hear which other places in Montgomery County are similar to the Kid Museum, that could provide STEM activities for elementary and middle school students in a large space. Are there any? I'm honestly curious.

I was a middle school tech teacher. To my knowledge Kid museum is unique with it’s space. Many many of the middle schools have similar facilities. Just not large enough for more than a typical 30 to 40 student course. The big difference is the their staffing. One tech teacher with a group of 30 or 40 can only accomplish so much in a 45 minute period with a large group. Kid museum can organize up to 60 or so max but with several staff with student for several hours. A lot of the groups that go to kid museum are recruited from the school so the kids are more engaged as well.

Again nothing the kid museum does is particularly unique in my opinion.

Our school used that program last year. It was really wonderful!

Once? What was the cost?

It was free of course...

There is no of course. They charge for field trips.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

You openly show your Marie Antoinette attitude. I really don't like people like you. It's insulting to those working at poverty level.

I think the science van visiting each school is a spectacular idea, and an efficient use of funds. Just think how much good could have been done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

$150 is a lot for some people. Or, they could get how may teachers or science equipment with that money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What??? This money could go to paying teachers better so that they can be more motivated to actually teach, and not sadistically bully kids. This is absolutely ridiculous!

$2MM across 14K teachers is less than $150 a teacher. I don't think that's gonna move the needle much.

You openly show your Marie Antoinette attitude. I really don't like people like you. It's insulting to those working at poverty level.

I think the science van visiting each school is a spectacular idea, and an efficient use of funds. Just think how much good could have been done.

But you do like the person who thinks our teachers are "sadistic bullies"?