BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

You still have not articulated an alternative

Mask indoors when outside your home. Done.
N95 do work.
Home tests do work.

Yes, you can't see each other's smiles, yes indoor dining is out, yes kids should mask in school, yes indoor swimming is out. But then, no mass disabling event, yay.

It isn't that complicated, it isn't that onerous.

I really hope you're trolling. Because nearly 2.5 year later, I find it hard to believe that you can't accept everyone has different levels of risk for themselves. Expecting everyone to follow your protocol is totally needless.

Take me, for example. To the best of my knowledge, I have never had covid. I am vaccinated and had one booster nearly 8 months ago. On any given week, I probably share indoor space with at least a thousand other unmasked people (probably more). That's 1k unmasked people a week, for over a year. That has included: working in public schools, going to the gym, taking classes with 50+ people, going to all kinds of stores, eating in restaurants, traveling internationally, unmasking on trans-atlantic flights, and normal socializing with friends and family.

I am a healthy person with no comorbidities. If I haven't had covid yet, I'll take my chances going forward. I'm done with masking - it serves me no good, as a healthy person.

Do what you want based on your own risk assessment for yourself, however.

The problem you don’t get is the risks you take impact the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.

Agree. Time to move on. Including lifting isolations and quarantines for kids at school, camps, activists and people at work unless they are symptomatic. Same with testing. No more testing unless people are sick.

Except that both the vaccines and available antivirals are not currently enough to prevent long-covid, and each infection is its own risk of long-covid and there really isn't a high-risk individual profile more susceptible to long-covid, everyone is at risk.

Moving on also includes 90% of your flights getting canceled.

Move on. Stop testing and stop quarantining people that are healthy and symptom free. The world is already overpopulated. No one needs to live to be 100 and we all have to die of something. If you don’t want to ever be sick with anything then you can mask and stay home

When your kids have mental health issues, need not wonder why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.

Agree. Time to move on. Including lifting isolations and quarantines for kids at school, camps, activists and people at work unless they are symptomatic. Same with testing. No more testing unless people are sick.

Except that both the vaccines and available antivirals are not currently enough to prevent long-covid, and each infection is its own risk of long-covid and there really isn't a high-risk individual profile more susceptible to long-covid, everyone is at risk.

Moving on also includes 90% of your flights getting canceled.

Move on. Stop testing and stop quarantining people that are healthy and symptom free. The world is already overpopulated. No one needs to live to be 100 and we all have to die of something. If you don’t want to ever be sick with anything then you can mask and stay home

When your kids have mental health issues, need not wonder why.

More likely to have mental health issues from the constant Covid related disruptions, cancellations, and isolations than from pseudo long Covid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

You still have not articulated an alternative

Mask indoors when outside your home. Done.
N95 do work.
Home tests do work.

Yes, you can't see each other's smiles, yes indoor dining is out, yes kids should mask in school, yes indoor swimming is out. But then, no mass disabling event, yay.

It isn't that complicated, it isn't that onerous.

I really hope you're trolling. Because nearly 2.5 year later, I find it hard to believe that you can't accept everyone has different levels of risk for themselves. Expecting everyone to follow your protocol is totally needless.

Take me, for example. To the best of my knowledge, I have never had covid. I am vaccinated and had one booster nearly 8 months ago. On any given week, I probably share indoor space with at least a thousand other unmasked people (probably more). That's 1k unmasked people a week, for over a year. That has included: working in public schools, going to the gym, taking classes with 50+ people, going to all kinds of stores, eating in restaurants, traveling internationally, unmasking on trans-atlantic flights, and normal socializing with friends and family.

I am a healthy person with no comorbidities. If I haven't had covid yet, I'll take my chances going forward. I'm done with masking - it serves me no good, as a healthy person.

Do what you want based on your own risk assessment for yourself, however.

The problem you don’t get is the risks you take impact the rest of us.

Bullshit. Your life, your risk, is in your hands. Stop making everyone else modify because YOU don't want to.

You can stay home. You can wear 4 KN95 masks layered on top of each other. If there are aspects of your health that can be changed (weight, etc) then make changes. If I'm feeling healthy and well, there is zero reason I can't go out and live my life completely and totally normally without any mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

You still have not articulated an alternative

Mask indoors when outside your home. Done.
N95 do work.
Home tests do work.

Yes, you can't see each other's smiles, yes indoor dining is out, yes kids should mask in school, yes indoor swimming is out. But then, no mass disabling event, yay.

It isn't that complicated, it isn't that onerous.

I really hope you're trolling. Because nearly 2.5 year later, I find it hard to believe that you can't accept everyone has different levels of risk for themselves. Expecting everyone to follow your protocol is totally needless.

Take me, for example. To the best of my knowledge, I have never had covid. I am vaccinated and had one booster nearly 8 months ago. On any given week, I probably share indoor space with at least a thousand other unmasked people (probably more). That's 1k unmasked people a week, for over a year. That has included: working in public schools, going to the gym, taking classes with 50+ people, going to all kinds of stores, eating in restaurants, traveling internationally, unmasking on trans-atlantic flights, and normal socializing with friends and family.

I am a healthy person with no comorbidities. If I haven't had covid yet, I'll take my chances going forward. I'm done with masking - it serves me no good, as a healthy person.

Do what you want based on your own risk assessment for yourself, however.

I am a rock, I am an island

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

You still have not articulated an alternative

Mask indoors when outside your home. Done.
N95 do work.
Home tests do work.

Yes, you can't see each other's smiles, yes indoor dining is out, yes kids should mask in school, yes indoor swimming is out. But then, no mass disabling event, yay.

It isn't that complicated, it isn't that onerous.

I really hope you're trolling. Because nearly 2.5 year later, I find it hard to believe that you can't accept everyone has different levels of risk for themselves. Expecting everyone to follow your protocol is totally needless.

Take me, for example. To the best of my knowledge, I have never had covid. I am vaccinated and had one booster nearly 8 months ago. On any given week, I probably share indoor space with at least a thousand other unmasked people (probably more). That's 1k unmasked people a week, for over a year. That has included: working in public schools, going to the gym, taking classes with 50+ people, going to all kinds of stores, eating in restaurants, traveling internationally, unmasking on trans-atlantic flights, and normal socializing with friends and family.

I am a healthy person with no comorbidities. If I haven't had covid yet, I'll take my chances going forward. I'm done with masking - it serves me no good, as a healthy person.

Do what you want based on your own risk assessment for yourself, however.

The problem you don’t get is the risks you take impact the rest of us.

Bullshit. Your life, your risk, is in your hands. Stop making everyone else modify because YOU don't want to.

You can stay home. You can wear 4 KN95 masks layered on top of each other. If there are aspects of your health that can be changed (weight, etc) then make changes. If I'm feeling healthy and well, there is zero reason I can't go out and live my life completely and totally normally without any mask.

This. Really.

[Anonymous]

Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

Yes, because hospitals are overwhelmed /s. OMG a bad cold shut down the world!! You lost the debate long ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

You've said this about every variant. Yet, people are still happily, healthily living their lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

Give it up already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

You've said this about every variant. Yet, people are still happily, healthily living their lives.

Yes. After they recover. Sure. Agree. But they’re still getting covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

You've said this about every variant. Yet, people are still happily, healthily living their lives.

Yes. After they recover. Sure. Agree. But they’re still getting covid.

Multiple times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

You've said this about every variant. Yet, people are still happily, healthily living their lives.

Yes. After they recover. Sure. Agree. But they’re still getting covid.

And we’re still getting colds and the flu and other illnesses and yet we live our lives l. How revolutionary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of magical thinking with the let me decide my own risk motto. The current variant is laughing at you. Best of luck kiddo.

You've said this about every variant. Yet, people are still happily, healthily living their lives.

Yes. After they recover. Sure. Agree. But they’re still getting covid.

PP here. Like I said, I haven't had it at all despite sharing indoor spaces with 1k maskless people a week (at least). You do you, but I'm moving forward with life.

[Anonymous]

The people saying they won’t wear masks and immunocompromised people need to watch out for themselves will be startled when they catch covid for the fourth time and become immunocompromised and then people start telling them they need to watch out for themselves.