Barnard is Barnard, not Columbia!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The University Bylaws - charters and statutes - answer the questions so hotly debated in this forum. Obviously, folks will still interpret and bend these pretty clear statements to favor their preferred view of Barnard and Columbia. But at least there won't be any misstatements of facts... Relevant info is on page 92. Enjoy and congratulations to the Barnard'26 admit.
https://secretary.columbia.edu/files/secretary/university_charters_and_statutes/University%20Charters%20and%20Statutes_June%202013.pdf

Yaap, can't argue with bylaws - it is clearly Barnard@Columbia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The University Bylaws - charters and statutes - answer the questions so hotly debated in this forum. Obviously, folks will still interpret and bend these pretty clear statements to favor their preferred view of Barnard and Columbia. But at least there won't be any misstatements of facts... Relevant info is on page 92. Enjoy and congratulations to the Barnard'26 admit.
https://secretary.columbia.edu/files/secretary/university_charters_and_statutes/University%20Charters%20and%20Statutes_June%202013.pdf

Yaap, can't argue with bylaws - it is clearly Barnard@Columbia.

“The degree of bachelor of arts conferred upon the graduates of Barnard College shall be maintained at all times as a degree of equal value with the degree of bachelor of arts conferred upon the graduates of Columbia College.”

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What do Bardard alums and students put on their resume and LinkedIn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do Bardard alums and students put on their resume and LinkedIn?

Some say Barnard, some say Columbia. It’s a personal preference.

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Anonymous wrote:What do Bardard alums and students put on their resume and LinkedIn?

Some say Barnard, some say Columbia. It’s a personal preference.

Anyone who puts down Columbia is being dishonest, and employers know this.

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Anonymous wrote:What do Bardard alums and students put on their resume and LinkedIn?

Some say Barnard, some say Columbia. It’s a personal preference.

Anyone who puts down Columbia is being dishonest, and employers know this.

There is no such degree-granting institution as Barnard College. Upon graduation, Barnard students are granted their BA Degree by Columbia University of the City of New York (degree granting institution), as the graduates of all graduate and professional schools and undergraduate colleges comprising the university. For job applications, HR employment verification, official resume, etc. the only accurate statement for Barnard's grads is to use {BA, Columbia University}; they can opt to add Barnard College (e.g., BA, Columbia University, Barnard College) to take advantage of the auxiliary benefits, such as the Seven Sisters alumni network. Upon graduation, graduates of the Barnard College are also inducted into the Columbia University Alumni Association, in compliance with the University's Statutes.

[Anonymous]

It really takes a special kind of status obsession to expend this much energy over something so meaningless.

[Anonymous]

I go to Barnard@Columbia

that's so cringy

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Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

https://www.oxford.emory.edu for the Emory part. St Mary's and Notre Dame are different because the two have some agreements, but St. Marys is not actually part of Notre Dame

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

https://www.oxford.emory.edu for the Emory part. St Mary's and Notre Dame are different because the two have some agreements, but St. Marys is not actually part of Notre Dame

Oxford to Emory is like transfering after 2 years, and it's essentially one school.
It's different.

I doubt that St. Marys students claim Notre Dame.

Barnard students claiming Columbia is really shameful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

https://www.oxford.emory.edu for the Emory part. St Mary's and Notre Dame are different because the two have some agreements, but St. Marys is not actually part of Notre Dame

Oxford is a subnet of emory.edu.

Barnard has it's own website, barnard.edu
Stop the shame.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

https://www.oxford.emory.edu for the Emory part. St Mary's and Notre Dame are different because the two have some agreements, but St. Marys is not actually part of Notre Dame

Oxford is a subnet of emory.edu.

Barnard has it's own website, barnard.edu
Stop the shame.

Fascinating ... just like in politics facts don't matter, when it goes against someone's groundless believes ... No wonder folks could be so polarized when emotions trump the reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

https://www.oxford.emory.edu for the Emory part. St Mary's and Notre Dame are different because the two have some agreements, but St. Marys is not actually part of Notre Dame

Oxford is a subnet of emory.edu.

Barnard has it's own website, barnard.edu
Stop the shame.

Fascinating ... just like in politics facts don't matter, when it goes against someone's groundless believes ... No wonder folks could be so polarized when emotions trump the reason.

So true ... the adults learn it when they were in kindergarten ... https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/05/alternative-facts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But Barnard is Columbia.

No dog in this fight but the Barnard folks seem to have the facts on their side. The Columbia boosters just don't like it. I sure hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia. Otherwise, this may be the most pathetic thread ever.

You are making zero sense. Columbia "boosters"? Where? And you "hope the Columbia people have some tie to Columbia"? That literally makes no sense. Like, re-read that sentence. In any case, why would that make this thread pathetic?

And no, the facts are not on Barnard's side. Columbia literally says that it has three undergraduate divisions right on its website, and does not list Barnard as one. They are separate institutions with separate acceptance and admissions criteria, as well as separate graduation requirements and criteria, so it is 100% dishonest to claim that you were "accepted" to or "graduated" from Columbia if you are a Barnard student.

It’s more complicated than you’re making out to be. Barnard and Columbia have a unique partnership. They share virtually all facilities. Barnard women play with Columbia women in athletic teams. Barnard students can register for a wide range of Columbia courses. They can even pursue Crain majors at Columbia.

But the bottom line is this:

The diploma that a Barnard College graduate receives is signed by BOTH the president of Barnard AND the the provost of Columbia University, indicating that the degree is awarded jointly by both institutions.

The Barnard administration advises its students to tell those ho ask that they are “graduates of Barnard College of Columbia University.”

The partnership between these 2 institutions is unique so no one can try to fit it into a box that is like other universities. It doesn’t work. Regardless, the fact is that Barnard falls under the umbrella of Columbia University but the partnership has allowed them to remain independent in certain ways so that it can maintain its identity as a women’s college and set priorities for its students in a way that revignizes their needs and aspirations as women.

https://barnard.edu/boldly-barnard/columbia-university

It's like Emory and Notre Dame. It's not that unique.

What's like Emory and Notre Dame??

https://www.oxford.emory.edu for the Emory part. St Mary's and Notre Dame are different because the two have some agreements, but St. Marys is not actually part of Notre Dame

Oxford is a subnet of emory.edu.

Barnard has it's own website, barnard.edu
Stop the shame.

Great reference ... On the website, it shows this throughout - BARNARD COLLEGE . COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY - including the college logo