Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act has passed!

Anonymous
^ Or do you think this is part of some holistic strategy with the whole team to get the other bill through somehow - and if so could you explain that logic?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



LOL yes she got it done. After some choice words over the past week-and-a-half and no thanks to the Squad. Pelosi was pissed off on October 28th. For good reason.

Just because the end result was preferable, doesn't mean it wasn't a struggle to get there and it shouldn't have been. This bill should have been passed months ago.

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Pelosi may have been mad at the Progressives among her people. But I imagine that on the most important level she’s furious that only 13 Republicans cared enough about infrastructure to vote for this. 13. This could have been done months ago had the other 200 Republican freak bags in the House decided to govern for the greater good. I seriously do not understand why you guys are belaboring this point about the squad - and the message, in case you’re illiterate - is that Infrastructure is only half the agenda that Democratic voters voted into office. Don’t forget the rest of the people who got the Democrats the majorities.


Are you kidding? Those 13 votes are one of the most successful examples of major bipartisan legislation she's ever formulated. It was a political coup. So no. It as quoted - she pissed at the CPC at squandering good will four months after she tried to bring this to a vote twice AND for essentially handing over the entire state of Virginia to the Republican paryt.
Anonymous
I can’t believe this but apparently Biden also has to delay signing because the US government ran out of funds!!! Thanks to the progressive push back of the debt ceiling we can’t pay for the highway costs that immediately incur,



The White House plans a signing ceremony for the infrastructure bill, but there's one complication. After Biden signs it, a mandatory transfer of $118 billion to the highway trust fund would kick in. If he puts pen to paper immediately, that could move up the debt ceiling deadline.

Hoagland said the Treasury Department may have some wiggle room in when to transfer the funds to avoid getting closer to the borrowing limit before the issue is resolved.


Anonymous
Just a normal opposition party, ladies and gentlemen. Don’t be alarmed.
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Anonymous wrote:Just a normal opposition party, ladies and gentlemen. Don’t be alarmed.

The GOP is belligerent and dumb. Not a great combo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



What message did they want to send to their constituents?


They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want

Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words.


Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



What message did they want to send to their constituents?


They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want

Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words.


Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter

Click through. This isn’t the totality of her argument and, unlike Manchin and Sinema, it’s not like she gets to stop everything every time she decides she wants something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



What message did they want to send to their constituents?


They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want

Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words.


Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter

Click through. This isn’t the totality of her argument and, unlike Manchin and Sinema, it’s not like she gets to stop everything every time she decides she wants something.


What was her reason this time? She had PSTD or she received death threats? You get a pass once or twice AOC, after that you have a record. And she has a record of voting solely on what’s best for her OWN career advancement.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



What message did they want to send to their constituents?


They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want

Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words.


Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter

Click through. This isn’t the totality of her argument and, unlike Manchin and Sinema, it’s not like she gets to stop everything every time she decides she wants something.


The problem with the progressive point of view is how out-of-touch with reality they are. Yes, they have good causes, but the fact is that we have never spent over $1T let alone $1.9T or $3.5T or the original request of $6.2T on human infrastructure. And right now, after have spent well over $5T on pandemic relief alone, is not the time to add that much more. Without a funding source, the government cannot continue to just throw trillions of dollars into these problems.

The progressives have refused to compromise. They constantly raise the issue that they want ALL of their programs passed COMPLETELY, exactly like this issue. And they are unwilling to budge or change their perspectives. The various decreases, from $6.2T to $3.5T and then $3.5T to $1.9T have come from the moderate wing of the Democrats easing decreases and cuts into the proposals. And the progressive have been holding the bipartisan infrastructure hostage in order to stand their ground and refuse to compromise.

It leaves a very bad image when the Democratic majority had to rely on Republicans crossing the aisle to override the petulance of the progressives just to pass the bipartisan package.

In years past, there used to be moderate wings of both parties, the Blue Dog Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans. Those were the groups that managed to actually get things done by compromising and working across the aisle to actually find ways to get necessary actions passed and completed while juggling the pork. But starting in the late 1990's through about 2010, both parties managed to purge large chunks of their moderate wings and as those groups slowly were eliminated, so was any progress from Congress. At this point, there is relatively little hope of anything truly bipartisan getting through without rebuilding the moderate wings of the party. Look at how both sides are treating the few people actually negotiating and getting work done. Both parties are turning deplorable at this point.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



What message did they want to send to their constituents?


They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want

Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words.


Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter

Click through. This isn’t the totality of her argument and, unlike Manchin and Sinema, it’s not like she gets to stop everything every time she decides she wants something.


The problem with the progressive point of view is how out-of-touch with reality they are. Yes, they have good causes, but the fact is that we have never spent over $1T let alone $1.9T or $3.5T or the original request of $6.2T on human infrastructure. And right now, after have spent well over $5T on pandemic relief alone, is not the time to add that much more. Without a funding source, the government cannot continue to just throw trillions of dollars into these problems.

The progressives have refused to compromise. They constantly raise the issue that they want ALL of their programs passed COMPLETELY, exactly like this issue. And they are unwilling to budge or change their perspectives. The various decreases, from $6.2T to $3.5T and then $3.5T to $1.9T have come from the moderate wing of the Democrats easing decreases and cuts into the proposals. And the progressive have been holding the bipartisan infrastructure hostage in order to stand their ground and refuse to compromise.

It leaves a very bad image when the Democratic majority had to rely on Republicans crossing the aisle to override the petulance of the progressives just to pass the bipartisan package.

In years past, there used to be moderate wings of both parties, the Blue Dog Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans. Those were the groups that managed to actually get things done by compromising and working across the aisle to actually find ways to get necessary actions passed and completed while juggling the pork. But starting in the late 1990's through about 2010, both parties managed to purge large chunks of their moderate wings and as those groups slowly were eliminated, so was any progress from Congress. At this point, there is relatively little hope of anything truly bipartisan getting through without rebuilding the moderate wings of the party. Look at how both sides are treating the few people actually negotiating and getting work done. Both parties are turning deplorable at this point.


That "human infrastructure" bill is going nowhere. It is unpopular with voters and should be tossed in the trash bin until they can come up with something better to offer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.

I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they did send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.


Exactly. The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand. Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes. She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to. It was all perfect.



What message did they want to send to their constituents?


They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want

Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words.


Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter

Click through. This isn’t the totality of her argument and, unlike Manchin and Sinema, it’s not like she gets to stop everything every time she decides she wants something.


The problem with the progressive point of view is how out-of-touch with reality they are. Yes, they have good causes, but the fact is that we have never spent over $1T let alone $1.9T or $3.5T or the original request of $6.2T on human infrastructure. And right now, after have spent well over $5T on pandemic relief alone, is not the time to add that much more. Without a funding source, the government cannot continue to just throw trillions of dollars into these problems.

The progressives have refused to compromise. They constantly raise the issue that they want ALL of their programs passed COMPLETELY, exactly like this issue. And they are unwilling to budge or change their perspectives. The various decreases, from $6.2T to $3.5T and then $3.5T to $1.9T have come from the moderate wing of the Democrats easing decreases and cuts into the proposals. And the progressive have been holding the bipartisan infrastructure hostage in order to stand their ground and refuse to compromise.

It leaves a very bad image when the Democratic majority had to rely on Republicans crossing the aisle to override the petulance of the progressives just to pass the bipartisan package.

In years past, there used to be moderate wings of both parties, the Blue Dog Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans. Those were the groups that managed to actually get things done by compromising and working across the aisle to actually find ways to get necessary actions passed and completed while juggling the pork. But starting in the late 1990's through about 2010, both parties managed to purge large chunks of their moderate wings and as those groups slowly were eliminated, so was any progress from Congress. At this point, there is relatively little hope of anything truly bipartisan getting through without rebuilding the moderate wings of the party. Look at how both sides are treating the few people actually negotiating and getting work done. Both parties are turning deplorable at this point.


That "human infrastructure" bill is going nowhere. It is unpopular with voters and should be tossed in the trash bin until they can come up with something better to offer.

“uNpOpUlAr wItH vOtErs”
Anonymous
^ if the people wanted a far left agenda then they wouldn’t have voted in republicans in a former democratic stronghold.
Anonymous
This is what Chris Christie did with the new gateway tunnel and New Jersey hates him for it. These frigging morons whose policy is politics rather than people.

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Anonymous wrote:That "human infrastructure" bill is going nowhere. It is unpopular with voters and should be tossed in the trash bin until they can come up with something better to offer.

“uNpOpUlAr wItH vOtErs”


Funny how facts get in the way of the Republican narrative.
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