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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a lot more respect for the 13 Republicans that I do those 6 Democrats.[/quote]
I don’t. I don’t respect Republicans at all. Those six were carefully counted and they [i]did[/i] send a message with their vote. It passed. We’re fine.[/quote]

Exactly.  The ignorance of the people on this site is way too deep to understand.  Those Ds voted no bc they could…Pelosi knew she had the votes.  She’s one of the most badass effective Speakers this country has ever seen and so she knew she could get it done and let people in her party send the message they wanted to.  It was all perfect.

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What message did they want to send to their constituents?[/quote]

They sent a message to everyone: they'd rather Flint not get clean water if they don't also get the bill they want[/quote]
Unluckily for your Fox talking points, she’s actually pretty active on twitter. You can read her own words. 
[twitter]https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1457448815292735494[/twitter][/quote]

Sorry. Democrat here. This reads like a petulant child. If that’s her argument, she should have negotiated raising the lead pipe amount four months ago. Now she’s scrambling for reasons to explain her vote on Twitter [/quote]
Click through. This isn’t the totality of her argument and, unlike Manchin and Sinema, it’s not like she gets to stop everything every time she decides she wants something. [/quote]

The problem with the progressive point of view is how out-of-touch with reality they are.  Yes, they have good causes, but the fact is that we have never spent over $1T let alone $1.9T or $3.5T or the original request of $6.2T on human infrastructure.  And right now, after have spent well over $5T on pandemic relief alone, is not the time to add that much more.  Without a funding source, the government cannot continue to just throw trillions of dollars into these problems.

The progressives have refused to compromise.  They constantly raise the issue that they want ALL of their programs passed COMPLETELY, exactly like this issue.  And they are unwilling to budge or change their perspectives.  The various decreases, from $6.2T to $3.5T and then $3.5T to $1.9T have come from the moderate wing of the Democrats easing decreases and cuts into the proposals.  And the progressive have been holding the bipartisan infrastructure hostage in order to stand their ground and refuse to compromise.

It leaves a very bad image when the Democratic majority had to rely on Republicans crossing the aisle to override the petulance of the progressives just to pass the bipartisan package.

In years past, there used to be moderate wings of both parties, the Blue Dog Democrats and the Rockefeller Republicans.  Those were the groups that managed to actually get things done by compromising and working across the aisle to actually find ways to get necessary actions passed and completed while juggling the pork.  But starting in the late 1990's through about 2010, both parties managed to purge large chunks of their moderate wings and as those groups slowly were eliminated, so was any progress from Congress.  At this point, there is relatively little hope of anything truly bipartisan getting through without rebuilding the moderate wings of the party.  Look at how both sides are treating the few people actually negotiating and getting work done.  Both parties are turning deplorable at this point.[/quote]

That "human infrastructure" bill is going nowhere. It is unpopular with voters and should be tossed in the trash bin until they can come up with something better to offer.[/quote]

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