What’s going on with the two bills?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema just blew up the revenue side of the bills, asking basically for no changes to the tax code.

Manchin and his fossil fule money have blown up the climate change components and Sinema and her Pharma money have blown up the healthcare components.

Its almost like the Koch funded politicians are ruling the roost at the expense of the American people.

They’re both gutter trash. What they and the whole GOP are doing is absolutely repellent. They want America, born in 1776, to die so that they can make a Frankenstein’s monster of its part that they think will be more to their liking. They’re stopping all progress, the Republican governors have done all they could to make sure that covid has killed as many as possible, and we’re going to live in a warmer world because of this.

I want to know why it is that Republicans get their way every time they’re in power, but Democrats, having won the WH and both houses of Congress, have to piece meal it and nary a Republican can be found who cares enough about the earth or America and the people who live here to play ball. Absolutely dumb, disgusting wastes of taxpayer money.

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema just blew up the revenue side of the bills, asking basically for no changes to the tax code.

Manchin and his fossil fule money have blown up the climate change components and Sinema and her Pharma money have blown up the healthcare components.

Its almost like the Koch funded politicians are ruling the roost at the expense of the American people.

They’re both gutter trash. What they and the whole GOP are doing is absolutely repellent. They want America, born in 1776, to die so that they can make a Frankenstein’s monster of its part that they think will be more to their liking. They’re stopping all progress, the Republican governors have done all they could to make sure that covid has killed as many as possible, and we’re going to live in a warmer world because of this.

I want to know why it is that Republicans get their way every time they’re in power, but Democrats, having won the WH and both houses of Congress, have to piece meal it and nary a Republican can be found who cares enough about the earth or America and the people who live here to play ball. Absolutely dumb, disgusting wastes of taxpayer money.

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

Centralized authority is regression. The constitution and individual/property rights being the top priority is the most progressive governing philosophy in the history of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema just blew up the revenue side of the bills, asking basically for no changes to the tax code.

Manchin and his fossil fule money have blown up the climate change components and Sinema and her Pharma money have blown up the healthcare components.

Its almost like the Koch funded politicians are ruling the roost at the expense of the American people.

They’re both gutter trash. What they and the whole GOP are doing is absolutely repellent. They want America, born in 1776, to die so that they can make a Frankenstein’s monster of its part that they think will be more to their liking. They’re stopping all progress, the Republican governors have done all they could to make sure that covid has killed as many as possible, and we’re going to live in a warmer world because of this.

I want to know why it is that Republicans get their way every time they’re in power, but Democrats, having won the WH and both houses of Congress, have to piece meal it and nary a Republican can be found who cares enough about the earth or America and the people who live here to play ball. Absolutely dumb, disgusting wastes of taxpayer money.

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

I suspect you have no clue what the Founding Fathers wanted or argued over or debated. I can tell from your post. Even the twitter itself has no real base. Where is this 70% of Americans who apparently support this voting reform?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema just blew up the revenue side of the bills, asking basically for no changes to the tax code.

Manchin and his fossil fule money have blown up the climate change components and Sinema and her Pharma money have blown up the healthcare components.

Its almost like the Koch funded politicians are ruling the roost at the expense of the American people.

They’re both gutter trash. What they and the whole GOP are doing is absolutely repellent. They want America, born in 1776, to die so that they can make a Frankenstein’s monster of its part that they think will be more to their liking. They’re stopping all progress, the Republican governors have done all they could to make sure that covid has killed as many as possible, and we’re going to live in a warmer world because of this.

I want to know why it is that Republicans get their way every time they’re in power, but Democrats, having won the WH and both houses of Congress, have to piece meal it and nary a Republican can be found who cares enough about the earth or America and the people who live here to play ball. Absolutely dumb, disgusting wastes of taxpayer money.

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

I suspect you have no clue what the Founding Fathers wanted or argued over or debated. I can tell from your post. Even the twitter itself has no real base. Where is this 70% of Americans who apparently support this voting reform?

I suspect you have no clue that the state legislatures are responsible for voting reform. No one else as per the Constitution, the highest law in the land. Got it?

[Anonymous]

Hey op here I haven’t checked this thread in a minute. What taxes on the wealthy are still included?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema just blew up the revenue side of the bills, asking basically for no changes to the tax code.

Manchin and his fossil fule money have blown up the climate change components and Sinema and her Pharma money have blown up the healthcare components.

Its almost like the Koch funded politicians are ruling the roost at the expense of the American people.

They’re both gutter trash. What they and the whole GOP are doing is absolutely repellent. They want America, born in 1776, to die so that they can make a Frankenstein’s monster of its part that they think will be more to their liking. They’re stopping all progress, the Republican governors have done all they could to make sure that covid has killed as many as possible, and we’re going to live in a warmer world because of this.

I want to know why it is that Republicans get their way every time they’re in power, but Democrats, having won the WH and both houses of Congress, have to piece meal it and nary a Republican can be found who cares enough about the earth or America and the people who live here to play ball. Absolutely dumb, disgusting wastes of taxpayer money.

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

I suspect you have no clue what the Founding Fathers wanted or argued over or debated. I can tell from your post. Even the twitter itself has no real base. Where is this 70% of Americans who apparently support this voting reform?

I suspect you have no clue that the state legislatures are responsible for voting reform. No one else as per the Constitution, the highest law in the land. Got it?

Uh, have you read Article 1, Section 4 of the Constitution?

"....but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations...."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

And the House has been artificially capped at 435 members, so a rep in Wyoming represents far fewer people than a rep from California or NY. Institute the Wyoming Rule so the House can be expanded and that will at least begin to even our the Electoral College issues, though it does nothing for the tyranny of the minority in the Senate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey op here I haven’t checked this thread in a minute. What taxes on the wealthy are still included?

No idea. Sinema said no to raising any rates so they're trying to come up with new ideas.

[Anonymous]

Sinema is corrupt.

She's going against the platform she ran on.

https://www.ontheissues.org/House/Kyrsten_Sinema_Tax_Reform.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sinema is corrupt.

She's going against the platform she ran on.

https://www.ontheissues.org/House/Kyrsten_Sinema_Tax_Reform.htm

This could explain it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey op here I haven’t checked this thread in a minute. What taxes on the wealthy are still included?

No idea. Sinema said no to raising any rates so they're trying to come up with new ideas.

Translation—they need to increase the tax base (ie the types and amounts of income that will be subject to tax).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey op here I haven’t checked this thread in a minute. What taxes on the wealthy are still included?

No idea. Sinema said no to raising any rates so they're trying to come up with new ideas.

Her proposal is to tax capital gains on 700 billionaires on an annual basis rather than when they are realized. That is moronic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey op here I haven’t checked this thread in a minute. What taxes on the wealthy are still included?

Sinema the Bought Off axed it, but they’re talking about taxing billionaires now. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/us/politics/sinema-wealth-taxes.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema is corrupt.

She's going against the platform she ran on.

https://www.ontheissues.org/House/Kyrsten_Sinema_Tax_Reform.htm

This could explain it.

You do know that is a parody?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sinema just blew up the revenue side of the bills, asking basically for no changes to the tax code.

Manchin and his fossil fule money have blown up the climate change components and Sinema and her Pharma money have blown up the healthcare components.

Its almost like the Koch funded politicians are ruling the roost at the expense of the American people.

They’re both gutter trash. What they and the whole GOP are doing is absolutely repellent. They want America, born in 1776, to die so that they can make a Frankenstein’s monster of its part that they think will be more to their liking. They’re stopping all progress, the Republican governors have done all they could to make sure that covid has killed as many as possible, and we’re going to live in a warmer world because of this.

I want to know why it is that Republicans get their way every time they’re in power, but Democrats, having won the WH and both houses of Congress, have to piece meal it and nary a Republican can be found who cares enough about the earth or America and the people who live here to play ball. Absolutely dumb, disgusting wastes of taxpayer money.

If you want to make claims to 1776 then you need to understand that the Senate is not, and was never, meant to be reflective of population numbers (that's the house). It was to balance the states and prevent a numerical majority from always triumphing over the minority. The FF were very concerned about the tyranny of the majority (as well as the minority). So far it's done the job quite well.

You advertise loudly your ignorance and inability to read a simple tweet. We’re currently suffering under the tyranny of the minority. Land doesn’t vote, but we’re subject to the whims of red states, even though they lost. It’s ridiculous, and it’s against what the founders wanted. They weren’t against progress like the GOP evidently is.

I suspect you have no clue what the Founding Fathers wanted or argued over or debated. I can tell from your post. Even the twitter itself has no real base. Where is this 70% of Americans who apparently support this voting reform?

I suspect you have no clue that the state legislatures are responsible for voting reform. No one else as per the Constitution, the highest law in the land. Got it?

Uh, have you read Article 1, Section 4 of the Constitution?

"....but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations...."

Congress has not done that. It was specifically Secretaries of State and judges changing election laws against the U.S. Constitution. That is tyrannical.