Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of securing our border, this is Biden's "solution."
How does this solve anything? It doesn't.



Anyone here think this is a good idea?


How would this be legal?


You are joking, right? Crossing the border is not legal. Driving without a license is not legal. Voting while not being US citizen is not legal. Nevertheless, we have all of that. This is a new America.


The question is how would it be legal to require these migrants to stay in Texas and not leave for another state.


They show up at the border and ask for asylum or refugee status. That IS LEGAL. And the law then says they have to be given a hearing before they can be sent back. THAT IS THE LAW. So then we are stuck with how to deal with them.



Just because something is legal or not legal doesn't make it right or wrong. Remember when black people and women couldn't legally vote?

Everyone knows the vast majority of illegal immigrants claiming asylum are a joke. Is a magic sesame word to get out of jail for free and do whatever you want. Complete gaming of the system.

It's be like going to the unemployment line and only having to say 'I'm unemployed!' in order to start collecting UE checks until a court date 5 years later can determine whether or not you truly are unemployed. Insanity.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants who show up to court lose their asylum cases. Many never even show up or have made as much as needed and return home. Or return home and hop back over later and start the whole process over again. If they truly cared about asylum they'd remain in place in the country next to them once they fled. But no, they pass over multiple countries on their way here before making flimsy claims of 'asylum'. Pray tell, how do they not claim asylum in Mexico? Millions of Americans go there on vacation. Mexico is fine. They're economic migrants, that is why. No country on earth is required to take in economic migrants.


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Thank you. What we have had since Biden took office is complete insanity. And anyone arguing otherwise can simply look at the (readily available!) data and at all the Executive Orders Biden signed on day one, getting rid of Trump's border initiatives. It's beyond disgraceful what Democrats have done to this country.

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The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


+1,000 to both PPs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


+1,000 to both PPs.

+2,000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


Please see the post here on the 14th amendment. It is very possible to change the interpretation of that clause.
Anonymous
Finally someone willing to speak to it. This will curb illegals immigration not only from south, but all Europeans, Asians, Middleasterners flying to Mexico to cross the border illegally.



And no, yo uso not need a new law, you do not need a new amendment. All you need is the Supreme Court to interpret the “jurisdiction ther of” part to mean birthright citizenship is granted to legal US residents, green card holders, legal students. If they are from another country waiting for asylum hearings or crossed illegally, they are still under the jurisdiction of their home country.


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This is the reasoning from another poster.

All yo unwed is the Supreme Court to interpret the line “under the jurisdiction there of” in the 14th amendment.

If they end birthright citizenship by illegals, that will greatly reduce the draw into this country.


Read below:



So for over 130 years the Supreme scours ruled in favor of Wong Ark. This ruling affirmed that being born in the US or Territory gives automatic citizenship in birth.

The clause is “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."


This was written to exclude children of Diplomats and Foreign fighters in US soil in case of an invasion by an army. This is because they would be subject to the jurisdiction of the country they were from, and not the USA.




However if you look a the wording, it can be read that children born in the USA are granted citizenship if they
Are children of Legal residents here. So children of Citizens, Green Card Holders, and resident aliens here on work visa or approved status.


It can be read that a foreign national illegal immigrant is under the jurisdiction of the leadership of their home country. So a Mexican national who crosses the border and gives birth in the USA should not have the child granted citizenship as they are under the Jurisdiction of the Mexican govt and Laws and not the USA. Especially if they cross back and forth and have residence in Mexico.
Anonymous
I can't believe birthright citizenship hasn't been stopped - long ago, even. That alone would have stopped millions from attempting the trip.
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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe birthright citizenship hasn't been stopped - long ago, even. That alone would have stopped millions from attempting the trip.


It is allowed in the constitution. But is not applicable to foreign diplomats or invading armys. It’s also written to possibly exclude people not here legally as they are under the jurisdiction of their home country. That is how it’s written and need a Supreme Court interpretation of that clause to diss allow it for illegals. No new law or amendment needed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


Dem here and would support this 100%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


Dem here and would support this 100%

Is a single Democrat currently fighting for this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


Dem here and would support this 100%

Is a single Democrat currently fighting for this?


Where the hell are they? I bet Mayor Adams and his NY contingency would support this…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem here is asylum. We need to drop this WW2 guilt trip and stop letting ourselves be taken advantage of. No asylum claims from people already in the US will be heard... period. Combine that with reform to asylum laws, a streamlined review process, and true border control, and we have a solution.


I could get on board with this.

I would also like our nation to consider ending birthright citizenship when the person giving birth is someone here illegally.


Dem here and would support this 100%

Is a single Democrat currently fighting for this?


Where the hell are they? I bet Mayor Adams and his NY contingency would support this…

If he wasn’t a cult follower, he would support this.
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