Isn't her legal name Rachel Markle? Megan is her middle name. That's not really cosplaying.
The point is her legal name is not actually Sussex as was claimed in a huge moment on the show.
She didn't make any claim about her legal name, she just stated that she identifies as "Sussex" not Markle. And then provided an explanation as to why. The fact that some of you are flipping out about this says much more about you than her.
I don't even think it was a "huge moment" on the show. It was a very brief conversation. YOU have made it a huge moment because for some reason it's very important to you that Meghan be forced to use her maiden name forever even if she doesn't want to, which is deranged.
But it's not her maiden name, lol. It's her current legal name, and the name of her kids as well. They have "Markle" on their birth certificate. At no point did she ever change their name to Sussex, which would be very bizarre considering it's no one's legal name in the family.
It is definitively her maiden name. Some women keep their maiden name. It sounds like Meghan does not want to keep hers but that there may be an issue with what she changes it to because the naming conventions in her husband's family are weird.
But I don't think it would be "bizarre" in that situation to simply legally change everyone's last name to Sussex.
This is actually a relatable problem to me because I had issues with my name when I got married and it was also hard to get people to call me by my new name (hyphenated) because people are stubborn and weird. The whole thing winds up being political and annoying when, hello, it's my name and you should call me what I tell you my name is. I did ultimately change my name legally but it took a while and in the meantime, I 100% expected people to call me by my newly adopted name, not my maiden name. So I'm totally on Meghan's side here. It is not some "gotcha" that her chosen name may not be her legal name. That's paperwork. Call people what they ask to be called or GTFO.
In any case, it is her current name, and the current name of her children. There is no legal precedent for her to change her name to Sussex. Of course she could, in the same way I could march down to the courthouse and change mine to Sussex. But it would be pretty bizarre of both myself and MM to do that considering it's not our legal name in any sense.
No, it would be normal for the Duchess of Sussex to change her and her kid's legal US names to Sussex as a way to simplify their names. People often make choices like this when navigating marital name conflicts or immigration naming issues.
It would be totally deranged for you to do so, as you are not the Duchess of Sussex.
I think this is why you are so mad, actually.
Considering that Sussex is NOT a last name and the name of a geographical area, yes it would be pretty deranged. But yeah, maybe everyone should just change their name to it and we can all have a good laugh.
The point is Meghan herself claimed that her name is Sussex. But ahe apparently does not use the name legally? It is very weird. I am going to change my name to "Princess Diana" but not legally. It will just be the name I declare for myself.
The difference here is that Meghan legally owns a title, the Duchess of Sussex, and many other people who have had the titles Duke of and Duchess of have used the house name as their surname, so Meghan does as well. Whereas you are not a Princess and your name is not Diana. So what Meghan is doing is normal and in keeping with the traditions of her husband's family, whereas you calling yourself Princess Diana would be psychotic.
And again, I think that's what bothers you. Meghan is actually entitled to style herself as Meghan Sussex because she is, in fact, the Duchess of Sussex. Just as other members of that family have done for years. But you aren't entitled to do so because you aren't a Duchess. This obviously makes you very, very mad for some reason.
OK I understand being entitled to use a name. I am married and could use my husband's name, but my legal name is still my maiden name. I do nor go around correcting people and saying my husband's name is my actual name. The reason I don't do that is his name is not my actual, legal name.
So the point remains that "Sussex" is not her legal name according to any documents. Her legal name is "Markle." So she lied about her name being Sussex. The point of lying was to have a "gotcha" moment with Mindy Kaling.
Lied about her name? Are you insane? EVERYONE knows her name. Meghan Markle Sussex whatever has out white womaned (yes made this up), white women. She is able to live the most white womanly life ever, while still enjoying the benefits being a POC. It is driving some of you crazy. Let this woman live.
Honey, what you don't get is that she doesn't want to live - she wants an audience and applause. She is addicted to attention.
Honey , let’s say that’s true. Why are the haters giving it to her? Why not just ignore her? Most actors want an audience and applause, why is her craving it so unique? That’s what’s weird here. Plenty of celebrities do exactly what she’s doing, but don’t garner nearly the same hate? Why is that? Genuinely curious. What about her perceived “addiction to attention” make white women so angry? Singly out white women, because no other race of women GAF about her or whatever it is she’s doing.
The obvious answer is her race. Why? Because plenty of women of both races do what she’s doing to gain fame and fortune, but of none of them is a black woman who married the most eligible man in the planet (at that time).
No, it's not obviously race. It's that she contradicts herself constantly and she is not genuine. That's it.
You've described 99% of all celebrities. That's why we all think it's just racism. Because nothing else explains this bizarre obsession with someone so irrelevant. Why is she such a lightening rod? It is bizarre. Everyone in the royal family is pointless and weird, but only Meghan inspires this level of hate.
It's the whining. Most people can't listen to that level of martyrdom from a semi-successful actress who then married a prince. If she was suffering verbal or emotional abuse, by all means get out of the UK and strike out on your own. But average people aren't receptive to someone like that complaining over and over again. It's too much.
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but when people talk about her whining over and over, what does this refer to? The Oprah interview? I admit I only watched like 10 minutes of it but it didn't come off as whiny to me. Has she given other interviews? The only other public statement I know of on the matter was Harry's book, but that's him, not her, right?
I don't follow her closely and just watched a few episodes of this show and thought it was okay, not amazing. She is awkward and it seems a bit forced but the show is very pretty and some of the ideas are good. Has she done a bunch of interviews where she complains about stuff with his family? Is she still talking about it in interviews? I honestly don't now.
Oprah, the book, she mentioned it on her Africa charity tour, her People magazine interview promoting this new show alluded to it, the first episode of her show said Daniel was here for "the before, during, and after, shall we say." These are just a few examples. It comes up almost any time she has a public platform. I think if she would finally drop it, people would move on.
So by "drop it" you mean never mention something that literally everyone knows happened? Because those examples are not "whining." They are acknowledgments or small allusions to what was no doubt a stressful time for her and her family. You want her to pretend it didn't happen at all? I don't get that. That seems more fake than what she does, which is occasionally reference it in a non-whining way.
I think you have to be able to let something go after 5 years. If she needs to process what happened in therapy (or if Harry likes talking about it with her), fine. But from a PR perspective, it isn't helpful for her business endeavors or public persona. You don't see the difference?
You are arguing two different things.
The "something" you want Meghan to let go is being rejected by her husband's family, attacked in the tabloids in the UK for every tiny thing including stuff like eating avocados or touching her baby bump, and then having said family refuse to defend it support her even as some members of the family said racially insensitive things about both Meghan and her baby behind her back. And now, due to these issues as well as long simmering conflicts in Harry's family, they have almost no relationship with Harry's family and Meghan is personally blamed for the rift by many in the family and in the media in the UK, with many in the media openly rooting for this couple with two very young children to divorce. I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to have not "let that go," especially when some of it is still ongoing.
But sure, yes, it would probably be good for her from a PR perspective to act totally unbothered by it and as though all is well, as the rest of Harry's family does. It's always better, reputationally, to act as though you are above the fray and that if people dislike you or say unkind things about you, it doesn't matter. This is very difficult though.
I'm not sure I am following you. None of us know her (unless you believe the poster that showed up claiming to be her former employee. I would assume most people are therefore commenting on her public facing persona. Perhaps I have missed your point?
Anonymous wrote:Her jam is $30 a jar. Does she think she's Erewhon?
lol. Yes, she does. She's truly thick and deluded af.
She thinks she can capture some Flamingo Estate type following but they are alleged to actually have a devoted following of snooty moneyed folk. Meghan doesn’t have that. She’s got bots, the broke, the deluded, and the bald (dopey husband). She should reach for stars and raise the prices even more!
What will actually happen - Netflix will finance a very small production run. It won’t sell, and she’ll purchase and store what doesn’t quickly, to then slap a “SOLD OUT” tag on her crepe mix. Then she will post on her comments disabled instagram a sweet note for all of her beloved customers for making her goods sell out. Netflix airs the second half of what’s already been taped, which she calls “season2.” They will not renew with Harry and Meghan. She writes a post for the ages about having to grow in life, etc, etc, to prove ‘I didn’t fail Netflix, Netflix failed me!!!!’ This cycle repeats over the next couple of years, until they divorce.
How could a company as big as Netflix schedule this show to air when the related product is not-yet-ready on the As ever website?
After this initial discussion dies down, who is going to remember to go back to her website and purchase jam and edible flower sprinkles, once production ramps up?
I mean, couldn't an Intern have realized it was a good idea to coordinate the show release date with website product availability?
Jeez....
And a further thing, I'm no English or writing expert, but that lower case "ever" really bothers me. "As ever." It just looks wrong.
Isn't her legal name Rachel Markle? Megan is her middle name. That's not really cosplaying.
The point is her legal name is not actually Sussex as was claimed in a huge moment on the show.
She didn't make any claim about her legal name, she just stated that she identifies as "Sussex" not Markle. And then provided an explanation as to why. The fact that some of you are flipping out about this says much more about you than her.
I don't even think it was a "huge moment" on the show. It was a very brief conversation. YOU have made it a huge moment because for some reason it's very important to you that Meghan be forced to use her maiden name forever even if she doesn't want to, which is deranged.
But it's not her maiden name, lol. It's her current legal name, and the name of her kids as well. They have "Markle" on their birth certificate. At no point did she ever change their name to Sussex, which would be very bizarre considering it's no one's legal name in the family.
It is definitively her maiden name. Some women keep their maiden name. It sounds like Meghan does not want to keep hers but that there may be an issue with what she changes it to because the naming conventions in her husband's family are weird.
But I don't think it would be "bizarre" in that situation to simply legally change everyone's last name to Sussex.
This is actually a relatable problem to me because I had issues with my name when I got married and it was also hard to get people to call me by my new name (hyphenated) because people are stubborn and weird. The whole thing winds up being political and annoying when, hello, it's my name and you should call me what I tell you my name is. I did ultimately change my name legally but it took a while and in the meantime, I 100% expected people to call me by my newly adopted name, not my maiden name. So I'm totally on Meghan's side here. It is not some "gotcha" that her chosen name may not be her legal name. That's paperwork. Call people what they ask to be called or GTFO.
In any case, it is her current name, and the current name of her children. There is no legal precedent for her to change her name to Sussex. Of course she could, in the same way I could march down to the courthouse and change mine to Sussex. But it would be pretty bizarre of both myself and MM to do that considering it's not our legal name in any sense.
No, it would be normal for the Duchess of Sussex to change her and her kid's legal US names to Sussex as a way to simplify their names. People often make choices like this when navigating marital name conflicts or immigration naming issues.
It would be totally deranged for you to do so, as you are not the Duchess of Sussex.
I think this is why you are so mad, actually.
Considering that Sussex is NOT a last name and the name of a geographical area, yes it would be pretty deranged. But yeah, maybe everyone should just change their name to it and we can all have a good laugh.
The point is Meghan herself claimed that her name is Sussex. But ahe apparently does not use the name legally? It is very weird. I am going to change my name to "Princess Diana" but not legally. It will just be the name I declare for myself.
The difference here is that Meghan legally owns a title, the Duchess of Sussex, and many other people who have had the titles Duke of and Duchess of have used the house name as their surname, so Meghan does as well. Whereas you are not a Princess and your name is not Diana. So what Meghan is doing is normal and in keeping with the traditions of her husband's family, whereas you calling yourself Princess Diana would be psychotic.
And again, I think that's what bothers you. Meghan is actually entitled to style herself as Meghan Sussex because she is, in fact, the Duchess of Sussex. Just as other members of that family have done for years. But you aren't entitled to do so because you aren't a Duchess. This obviously makes you very, very mad for some reason.
OK I understand being entitled to use a name. I am married and could use my husband's name, but my legal name is still my maiden name. I do nor go around correcting people and saying my husband's name is my actual name. The reason I don't do that is his name is not my actual, legal name.
So the point remains that "Sussex" is not her legal name according to any documents. Her legal name is "Markle." So she lied about her name being Sussex. The point of lying was to have a "gotcha" moment with Mindy Kaling.
Lied about her name? Are you insane? EVERYONE knows her name. Meghan Markle Sussex whatever has out white womaned (yes made this up), white women. She is able to live the most white womanly life ever, while still enjoying the benefits being a POC. It is driving some of you crazy. Let this woman live.
Honey, what you don't get is that she doesn't want to live - she wants an audience and applause. She is addicted to attention.
Honey , let’s say that’s true. Why are the haters giving it to her? Why not just ignore her? Most actors want an audience and applause, why is her craving it so unique? That’s what’s weird here. Plenty of celebrities do exactly what she’s doing, but don’t garner nearly the same hate? Why is that? Genuinely curious. What about her perceived “addiction to attention” make white women so angry? Singly out white women, because no other race of women GAF about her or whatever it is she’s doing.
The obvious answer is her race. Why? Because plenty of women of both races do what she’s doing to gain fame and fortune, but of none of them is a black woman who married the most eligible man in the planet (at that time).
No, it's not obviously race. It's that she contradicts herself constantly and she is not genuine. That's it.
You've described 99% of all celebrities. That's why we all think it's just racism. Because nothing else explains this bizarre obsession with someone so irrelevant. Why is she such a lightening rod? It is bizarre. Everyone in the royal family is pointless and weird, but only Meghan inspires this level of hate.
It's the whining. Most people can't listen to that level of martyrdom from a semi-successful actress who then married a prince. If she was suffering verbal or emotional abuse, by all means get out of the UK and strike out on your own. But average people aren't receptive to someone like that complaining over and over again. It's too much.
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but when people talk about her whining over and over, what does this refer to? The Oprah interview? I admit I only watched like 10 minutes of it but it didn't come off as whiny to me. Has she given other interviews? The only other public statement I know of on the matter was Harry's book, but that's him, not her, right?
I don't follow her closely and just watched a few episodes of this show and thought it was okay, not amazing. She is awkward and it seems a bit forced but the show is very pretty and some of the ideas are good. Has she done a bunch of interviews where she complains about stuff with his family? Is she still talking about it in interviews? I honestly don't now.
Oprah, the book, she mentioned it on her Africa charity tour, her People magazine interview promoting this new show alluded to it, the first episode of her show said Daniel was here for "the before, during, and after, shall we say." These are just a few examples. It comes up almost any time she has a public platform. I think if she would finally drop it, people would move on.
So by "drop it" you mean never mention something that literally everyone knows happened? Because those examples are not "whining." They are acknowledgments or small allusions to what was no doubt a stressful time for her and her family. You want her to pretend it didn't happen at all? I don't get that. That seems more fake than what she does, which is occasionally reference it in a non-whining way.
I think you have to be able to let something go after 5 years. If she needs to process what happened in therapy (or if Harry likes talking about it with her), fine. But from a PR perspective, it isn't helpful for her business endeavors or public persona. You don't see the difference?
You are arguing two different things.
The "something" you want Meghan to let go is being rejected by her husband's family, attacked in the tabloids in the UK for every tiny thing including stuff like eating avocados or touching her baby bump, and then having said family refuse to defend it support her even as some members of the family said racially insensitive things about both Meghan and her baby behind her back. And now, due to these issues as well as long simmering conflicts in Harry's family, they have almost no relationship with Harry's family and Meghan is personally blamed for the rift by many in the family and in the media in the UK, with many in the media openly rooting for this couple with two very young children to divorce. I think it is perfectly reasonable for someone to have not "let that go," especially when some of it is still ongoing.
But sure, yes, it would probably be good for her from a PR perspective to act totally unbothered by it and as though all is well, as the rest of Harry's family does. It's always better, reputationally, to act as though you are above the fray and that if people dislike you or say unkind things about you, it doesn't matter. This is very difficult though.
You forgot the part where she went on national television and insulted the royal family while Prince Phillip's was dying. She is a narcissist and is only out for herself. She should be blamed for ruining man boy Harry. She took him from a well respected royal to a joke. She ruins everything she touches and then plays victim.
Anonymous wrote:According to DM, she is launching a new podcast on the trials and tribulations of founding a new business. She will have other female enterpreneurs on her podcast
It's hard to figure out who the audience is for this. Women who are successful in business already have advisors and do not need Mrghan's podcast to advise them. Your average mom or non entrepreneur professional is not looking for advice about starting a business.
I can see Meghan doing something like interviewing Sheryl Sandberg and claiming that she "leans in" on her business venture of jams, cake mixes and dog biscuits. If she is as lazy as she was with the last podcast the new pod will probably be a brief one. It just doesn't seem like a successful business owner would need advice from Meghan.
According to the NY Post article on previous page, viewers were mostly 45-54 yr olds and the Baltic countries had the most viewers.
It other words bots. Fake, fake, fake.
Is that what that means? I thought it was odd for her to have such a heavy following from Lithuania and Latvia
Anonymous wrote:How could a company as big as Netflix schedule this show to air when the related product is not-yet-ready on the As ever website?
After this initial discussion dies down, who is going to remember to go back to her website and purchase jam and edible flower sprinkles, once production ramps up?
I mean, couldn't an Intern have realized it was a good idea to coordinate the show release date with website product availability?
Jeez....
And a further thing, I'm no English or writing expert, but that lower case "ever" really bothers me. "As ever." It just looks wrong.
It is just weird to me. Pretty much nobody knew who she was until Harry came along but suddenly now she is doing these Netflix shows and podcasts and going by one name as if she is Cher or Madonna.
She has definitely won at striving. She should do a podcast on that. Drop the real tea. She is not a credible founder or homemaker. She excels at climbing. Own it.
Anonymous wrote:Her jam is $30 a jar. Does she think she's Erewhon?
Alllll the obsessed haters will be buying it for their YouTube channels and twitter clout. “I found a hair in my jam!” “It tastes like their non-existent kids mashed it with their dirty hands!”
I think literally zero people will buy it and it will all spoil in whatever warehouse it’s in.
Well, no, not "literally" zero. I'm already planning on buying some of the crepe and shortbread cookie mix!
Shortbread cookie “mix?” She’s selling flour and sugar?
I didn’t believe this, so I looked it up. It comes with “flower sprinkles” included (!), so I guess that makes it worth paying a premium plus shipping for flour and sugar (I assume you have to add your own butter (which is the primary ingredient in shortbread).
Anonymous wrote:According to DM, she is launching a new podcast on the trials and tribulations of founding a new business. She will have other female enterpreneurs on her podcast
It's hard to figure out who the audience is for this. Women who are successful in business already have advisors and do not need Mrghan's podcast to advise them. Your average mom or non entrepreneur professional is not looking for advice about starting a business.
I can see Meghan doing something like interviewing Sheryl Sandberg and claiming that she "leans in" on her business venture of jams, cake mixes and dog biscuits. If she is as lazy as she was with the last podcast the new pod will probably be a brief one. It just doesn't seem like a successful business owner would need advice from Meghan.
According to the NY Post article on previous page, viewers were mostly 45-54 yr olds and the Baltic countries had the most viewers.
It other words bots. Fake, fake, fake.
She’s HUGE in Riga!
What a lunatic. Meghan doesn’t even want genuine fame, the appearance of such with faked up numbers is good enough for her.
It would be fascinating to know how many viewers there were in the US and UK (i.e., not bot farms).
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