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US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions
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Anonymous
Then we need to improve our public education system along with expanding the school day to about 10-12 hours/day. Because what you’re suggesting above is still not equal for everyone. |
Anonymous
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f you have to ask that question, then you really need some American history lessons. Go read some books on Black history. Look at how the jail system was created to house Black males. Look at the 0% proficiency in math and science in Baltimore schools. Look at my parents and everyone in their generation who were denied housing, jobs, credit and in many cases dignity. Look at the Lynch papers - look at the people in charge through the years to followed very specific requirements to ensure Black people did not advance. And then look at Black immigrants from anywhere in the World and how they come here and excel. Being born Black in American is more than a barrier. The Black person has to shift their entire life trajectory to overcome systems put in place to keep them down. Asians and immigrants have created their own systems to ensure they can "beat the system" in place. These same systems are not possible for many in the Black community who are struggling with systems that keep them down. You really need to read more about history.
okay, I don't think the jail system was designed to house black males, though that is what happened. The first prison was designed in Philadelphia and housed mostly poor white people. it was considered to be a improvement, a place where people could repent their crimes and emerge ready to rejoin society. Visit the museum in Philly. It is really interesting. |
Anonymous
Probably due to the large IQ differences from a previous post. Blacks in the US have an average IQ of 83; Asians in the US have an average IQ of 108. To think that groups with such large differences in average IQ should have even remotely similar representation at top colleges is absurd. |
Anonymous
Averages are useless in this conversation unless we use the average of the top 1%. |
Anonymous
LOL No, you seem to have some sort of fantasy about Asians, but it's not like that. What you just described are actually wealthy White ALDC folks. Just 50-70 years ago, Asian countries like Japan, Korea, Vietnam, and China were all in ruins, and they were among the poorest countries, even poorer than some African nations. Most Asian immigrants didn't have any luxuries in the end. If they had anything, it was due to hard work and sacrifices, as well as their value for education. For those who come here after college from their home countries, they face significant language, social, and cultural barriers. However, they manage to achieve middle-class status by the second or third generation through their dedication to education. It's important to move away from a victim mentality in order to make progress. |
Anonymous
where did you get 10-12 hours? Also it's not just amount of time. |
Anonymous
How about Indian Americans? They have the same complexion as blacks. They do very well. So it's not the color of the skin that's holding down people. |
Anonymous
The entire rubric behind gathering this data is absurd. Back in the 1970s we were tested for IQ in elementary school. I was called in to retake the exam - twice. Why? Because I scored over 130 and the administrators were certain something was wrong ( I am a black American) so I took it again. Same result. Ever since then I have been aware of the fact that even when blacks perform well the results are challenged. My first score was literally tossed into a waste bin. You can measure your peter against those results if you like. Doesn't trouble me at all. |
Anonymous
Ah yes Stephen Miller, the known xenophobic pig behind the Muslim ban. He's only concerned about white and Asian people lol. Could you kill the fake Christianity already? Saying amen to someone like this because he agrees with you on something is just blasphemous. |
Anonymous
So....regardless of the SCOTUS ruling, the elite colleges still want URM diversity and will use other means like test optional to achieve it via having a wider selection pool (and maintain ALDC options). You DO get it. Now you can stop crying about standardized testing going back to the way it used to be. That's not happening. |
Anonymous
There’s a very obvious difference: one policy was explicitly to keep a particular type of person out, and another is there to ensure no race is excluded from the cohort and will favor or hurt whichever race is over represented in the applicant pool, therefore, it is race blind. I don’t know why it’s so hard to see that. One policy is racist and one is not. |
Anonymous
Yes, it’s all a conspiracy. The entirety of social scientists are in on it. You’ve figured it all out. |
Anonymous
no, it's pretty accurate for those that came here after college in the early 2000s and now have college-bound kids, the language barrier is only in spoken not in written, they are pretty fluent in English because only those fluent in English get acceptance into the doctoral programs, unless they lie about it and cheat on exams, and regarding social and cultural, they have the largest communities with programs and services in their language, much more that immigrants of european descent |
Anonymous
| I think it’s fairly likely more descendants of slaves will be admitted because they will be relying on SES more (and currently among Black admits children of immigrants are over-represented vs their percent of the population.) |
Anonymous
Yes, keep blaming slavery. More education and success for Asians. |