Who do you think is going to win and why?

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Anonymous wrote:There's reality then there is the MAGA delulu. Harris will win this easily, and I can even see a map in which she landslides.

it's going to be hard for the red brigade next week.


Harris has a much more difficult path to 270 than he does.


No, she really doesn't.


Harris voter here and I think she does. People really do NOT like her and I think we underestimate that.


It's not just that people don't like her, it's that people are smart enough to realize that they didn't vote for her to be the nominee and they rejected her the last time they had the chance to vote for her directly, yet "Democracy is on the ballot."


Nope.

There are thousands of GOP voters switching from Trump to Harris in PA, WI, MI.

This will be clearly evident come election day and the following days as the votes get counted.


+1. This is one area I don't see the media covering at all. The Never Trump part of the GOP has grown. Hell, I think a lot of the Republicans in Congress are going to vote for Harris.

Yes, this. Everyday I see more big name republicans coming out in support of Harris. I have not seen one democrat come out in support of trump.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump.

When you call half the country garbage, or call them nazis you’re really desperate.

Biden tried to eat a babies leg and his escort (I’m not sure it was Jill I think it was his hospice nurse) in a panda suit and your VP who wasn’t elected but appointed by the Democrat politburo calling half the country nazis you’re in a bad place.

When the issue is the economy and illegal alien migration and you presided over a terrible economy and the invasion of 10s of millions of illegals you’re going to lose

MAGA loves to point out how weak the economy is, despite near-record low unemployment, consistent economic growth, strong equity markets, and inflation running below 3%.


The numbers are rigged. Even the Fed called it out at a recent meeting.


Yeah the entire stock market— which has had maybe it’s greatest year ever this year- is rigged. Do you even hesr yourself or do you just not care because someone is paying you to post this crap?


NP. I think you are probably out of touch. I am from a working class background, although I am now a high earner. Most of my family remains working class. They are not rejoicing over the stock market; they may have (at most) 5 figures invested, if anything. They're worried about their grocery bill and whether they'll be able to afford their heating bills this winter. Unfortunately, that's representative of a majority of American households. Meanwhile, the rich get richer.


I was responding to the previous poster who responded to a comment about the stock market rising by saying the numbers are rigged.

But also if your relatives had $20k in the market/retirement accounts at the start of the year then now they have maybe $24k now without saving a dime more. I know how hard it is to save so don’t tell me that doesn’t matter.

Sure people are worried about making ends meet and sure it sucks that our economy is tilted toward the rich but anyone who votes for Trump and Musk thinking that will change that is not thinking straight


DP, but that extra 4k is merely keeping up with inflation. Same with my house price going up. There is no added value to stocks, just more froth, just more profits being extracted out of workers and consumers. Nothing to get excited about when you look at the big picture.


Inflation is not up 20% since January- it’s more 2%
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Anonymous wrote:Good majority of Asian Americans are voting for Trump through out the country contributing to the popular vote for Trump and 480,000+ Asian Americans in the Northern VA area will turn VA Red.

Citation?
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I'm a dem who voted for Harris but think Dump is going to win b/c we are stupid, racist country that hates women.

And people like to burn things down.

And Dump sells more adds for MSM than a Harris presidency does.

Our democracy is doomed.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump.

When you call half the country garbage, or call them nazis you’re really desperate.

Biden tried to eat a babies leg and his escort (I’m not sure it was Jill I think it was his hospice nurse) in a panda suit and your VP who wasn’t elected but appointed by the Democrat politburo calling half the country nazis you’re in a bad place.

When the issue is the economy and illegal alien migration and you presided over a terrible economy and the invasion of 10s of millions of illegals you’re going to lose

MAGA loves to point out how weak the economy is, despite near-record low unemployment, consistent economic growth, strong equity markets, and inflation running below 3%.


The numbers are rigged. Even the Fed called it out at a recent meeting.


Yeah the entire stock market— which has had maybe it’s greatest year ever this year- is rigged. Do you even hesr yourself or do you just not care because someone is paying you to post this crap?


NP. I think you are probably out of touch. I am from a working class background, although I am now a high earner. Most of my family remains working class. They are not rejoicing over the stock market; they may have (at most) 5 figures invested, if anything. They're worried about their grocery bill and whether they'll be able to afford their heating bills this winter. Unfortunately, that's representative of a majority of American households. Meanwhile, the rich get richer.


I was responding to the previous poster who responded to a comment about the stock market rising by saying the numbers are rigged.

But also if your relatives had $20k in the market/retirement accounts at the start of the year then now they have maybe $24k now without saving a dime more. I know how hard it is to save so don’t tell me that doesn’t matter.

Sure people are worried about making ends meet and sure it sucks that our economy is tilted toward the rich but anyone who votes for Trump and Musk thinking that will change that is not thinking straight


DP, but that extra 4k is merely keeping up with inflation. Same with my house price going up. There is no added value to stocks, just more froth, just more profits being extracted out of workers and consumers. Nothing to get excited about when you look at the big picture.


Inflation is not up 20% since January- it’s more 2%


Trump has no competency to deal with inflation or any other complex issue. He's not well.
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Anonymous wrote:The biggest thing this thread tells me is that most people's "gut" is so bad!

If I had to stake out a position, its that the polls are wrong, and the way in which they are wrong is how they are identifying "likely voter". So this election, in my view, will be decided by how many unlikely voters each side pulls into voting.

In other words, enthusiasm and GOTV will win the day. So I suppose a Harris win


I think this is largely right because Harris is focused on turning out voters who historically vote in high numbers -- women, Southern black folks, and other reliable Dems. Whereas Trump knows his base isn't enough and is trying to "expand the base" by turning out people who tend to be low-information or disaffected voters -- young men, including young black and Latino men. I think Harris will win because she's focused on people who historically vote, but especially tend to turn out when they feel the stakes are high for them personally.

Lately I've heard a lot of interviews with young men who support Trump because of "the economy" or "he seems strong and we need a strong leader" or because of some nostalgia for a time they never lived through where young men without college degrees could get high paying jobs. And at the end of these interviews I always think to myself, "I wonder if this guy is even registered to vote." In my experience young men like this rarely vote (and statistics back up that observation) and while they talk a big game on their political opinions, they are actually pretty divorced from the political process. My own husband didn't vote until he was in his late 20s. My younger brother didn't vote until his 30s. Young men just tend not to be very politically engaged, and cheering on Trump via Twitter from the comfort of home actually isn't political engagement.
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Anonymous wrote:Joy seems to have evaporated from Harris' campaign replaced by fear and finger pointing.


Says who? Russian trolls, like yourself?
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Anonymous wrote:Joy seems to have evaporated from Harris' campaign replaced by fear and finger pointing.


Says who? Russian trolls, like yourself?


Kamala appears to be getting angrier and angrier at her rallies and giggling less.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a dem who voted for Harris but think Dump is going to win b/c we are stupid, racist country that hates women.

And people like to burn things down.

And Dump sells more adds for MSM than a Harris presidency does.

Our democracy is doomed.


Hi PP- just want to say that I hear you and see you. All of this feels so so heavy. I don't have anything to say other than I'm with you.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a dem who voted for Harris but think Dump is going to win b/c we are stupid, racist country that hates women.

And people like to burn things down.

And Dump sells more adds for MSM than a Harris presidency does.

Our democracy is doomed.


Hi PP- just want to say that I hear you and see you. All of this feels so so heavy. I don't have anything to say other than I'm with you.


thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump will win because voters realize his first term wasn’t that bad, despite his personal proclivities. Harris doesn’t have the gravitas to overcome that.

It really is that simple.


I agree. Lots of people are not going to be able to pull the lever for Kamala. She's simply too random, and was forced upon us. And I'm a lifelong Democrat. I voted early and had a hard time doing it.


Given Biden's late exit from the race, I don't know what the alternative should have been, except for "nominating" the VP.

They’re bummed it was seamless and that it replaced a candidate they thought they could beat in a walk. They don’t care about “democracy,” they’re just mad.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump.

When you call half the country garbage, or call them nazis you’re really desperate.

Biden tried to eat a babies leg and his escort (I’m not sure it was Jill I think it was his hospice nurse) in a panda suit and your VP who wasn’t elected but appointed by the Democrat politburo calling half the country nazis you’re in a bad place.

When the issue is the economy and illegal alien migration and you presided over a terrible economy and the invasion of 10s of millions of illegals you’re going to lose

MAGA loves to point out how weak the economy is, despite near-record low unemployment, consistent economic growth, strong equity markets, and inflation running below 3%.


The employment numbers are revised so much that it is a joke. She is talking about forcing prices at groceries which will lead to shortages -no idea on finance .Allowed millions of people to just walk through border and would not change a thing.Refused to hold press conferences and will only talk to media that she knows will not press her. Basically if you are happy with things now then vote Harris. If not then vote Trump.


Because if you are worried about food shortages you should definitely vote for the guy planning to deport a quarter of the ag workforce. And if you are worried about prices you should definitely vite for the guy threatening to put tariffs of 20-100% on things. And if you worried about the border you should vote for the guy who killed the border bill.

Basically if you care more about stupid ideas that will make your life worse you should vote for Trump— I’m sure you can find someone else to blame when things go to crap for you.


My family owns bunch of farms and the new kind of immigrants coming from border don't want to work at farms. They want free handouts. Stop spreading FUDs about farming.
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Anonymous wrote:All comes down to how much are the polls underestimating Trump vs the number of ballots that can be harvested.

But I suspect 300+ electoral college votes and a slim popular vote margin of 1 or 2 million as well.



Trump will never get the popular vote. He’s not popular. MaGA loves him but most others cannot stand him.


Yup. After Trump's 2016 electoral college upset the media went nuts for the Trump voters in diners trope. They couldn't believe they had missed that Trump was going to win via the EC. This has allowed this narrative - from Trump and his supporters - to endure, when in reality Trump should have and could have been a blip. The guy is not popular. In every election since 2016 Republicans have lost or underperformed, to the extent that a huge chuck of the GOP has repudiated him, including his own Vice President.
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Anonymous wrote:Joy seems to have evaporated from Harris' campaign replaced by fear and finger pointing.


Unless one counts her awful, awkward laugh to fill time as joy
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Anonymous wrote:I want trump and his economy back. Tired of the stupid regulations and overspending of the Biden administration. It’s causing a pinch across all Americans.

RFK is a bonus deal to Trump. Clean up our food supply


So you don’t support government regulations, but want the government to clean up the food supply?

Got it.



How crazy is it that people like *some* spending but not other spending? Weird, right?

The food supply could use a major overhaul. The factory farming model has helped Monsanto and Perdue and their ilk (and the pharmaceutical industry) but it's been bad for:

Farmers, who destroy their land with an unprofitable and subsidized commodity corn, soybean model,

Animals who live and die in abhorrent conditions

The environment, which wasn't made for monoculture and intensive concentration of animals in close quarters

People who consume highly processed food that makes us fatter and sicker every year.


Man, I remember when saying things like this made you a communist.
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