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Biden can barely speak.  Trump can speak but anlmost  everything out of his mouth is a lie.

If there is a third party on the ballot in VA i will vote, if not I’ll just watch my kids on their day off.[/quote]

Throw you opportunity to protect yourself from trump away then.   No complaints then when he screws your family over.[/quote]

My family was more screwed during Biden administration, even though we all voted for him. [/quote]

Even if you don't have a family member of child bearing age, blowing up roe screwed over everybody.  It is a fundamental reduction of basic rights and it infiltrates and it negatively impacts the women's healthcare environment almost everywhere.[/quote]

If you want me to vote on that issue, can you point to any legislation that Biden introduced to codify Roe? Did he not have enough time in is 35 years in the Senate? [/quote]

What is your point?  Trump will protect our families from this destructive intrusion better?  That is utter nonsense.[/quote]

The point is that Biden had many chances in his political career to do it right and he failed it. He was given his last chance to do it while a president and he ignored this issue, so it tells me it is not as important to him as to his voters. He failed the entire women electorate. [/quote]

Holy clueless.  Trump was absolutely critical the destruction of roe and brags on and on about it.  You are ignorant if you think Biden is the one that is threat to women and not trump.[/quote]
You all are arguing as if either Trump or Biden should be president for another four year term. Neither should. Old news.
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But it will be one or the other. And a third party vote benefits Trump, so...[/quote]
You need help with math.  A third party vote is a big fat goose egg for the two main parties.[/quote]

You don’t understand the electoral college.[/quote]

+1.  Everytime you ask these third party fools to clearly explain exactly what is the electoral college path for this third party candidate they are completely unable to do so.[/quote]
Comments like yours only serve to further entrench my friends and me in our decisions to support a third party candidate that reflects our values.
Here’s a clue, try to influence your candidate’s platform so they’re more appealing to people you want support from.  Original, huh?
Also, don’t insult the voters.  It just hurts your cause.[/quote]

Reflects your values of having trump win, we get it.

How many electoral college votes are need to win?   Just list the states, the number of votes and the candidate until you reach that number so we can all see what is exciting you and your friends.  Should be easy.[/quote]
A vote for neither Trump nor Biden does not move either of those candidates up or down relative to each other.  Even in an electoral system where individual votes are tabulated at the state level in order to award the electoral votes.  Your reasoning is exceptionally flawed.[/quote]

You are going to feel great when Trump wins a state that tips the balance to him by fewer than 1,000 votes because 2,500 people voted third party instead.[/quote]
Again, neither Trump nor Biden were awarded any of those 2500 votes so it doesn’t matter when compared relative to each other’s totals.  Why do you assume that the third party votes (or voters who are sitting out because they find both Trump and Biden equally unsatisfactory) would otherwise be Biden’s?  That’s an incredibly flawed assumption.[/quote]

Good lord, the stupid runs deep here

Like it or not, we live in a binary system with the weirdness of the electoral college.

I too think a parliamentary system would be better.

But that's not what we have, idiot.

Seen it before. People like you. Your dumbass votes for "Green" candidates like Ralph Nader led to millions of Muslim deaths in Iraq. No action on climate change. Massive tax cuts for the rich and blowing up the deficit.

To hell with "progressives." I've seen the damage you do.

Go ahead and vote third party. And F^%K all of you.

Idiots [/quote]
It could be stupid or it could be more Republicans just stirring the pot. They’ve been the ones to benefit from third party shenanigans so much that they keep funding them, as they are with all the third party challengers this time.

Smart and sane people like you and I will keep saying the truth: it’s a binary choice. It is forward with Biden or it is the end of America with Trump. That’s the choice. [/quote]
If the Dem party nominates Biden, Trump has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. If Biden exits the race, someone with a much, much better chance of beating Trump will inevitably be the nominee. If you truly see Trump as the end of America, your hope is that Biden decides to back out of his pursuit for a second term. If he doesn't back out and becomes the nominee, then yes, unwavering support for Biden makes sense at that point.[/quote]

It is too late to nominate anyone else.  The ballot deadlines have passed in numerous states.  Another half dozen have their deadlines in the next two weeks.  Biden is it.  [/quote]

Well we should start practicing bowing to overlord Trump because Biden will not win. This is turning in to a RBG thing. Biden was so stupid with his unconditional support of Israel. That sh#tshow will be much much worst by next November.
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So you think the GOP doesn't have unconditional support for Israel?

Do you think the GOP would have provided aid to the people of Gaza or negotiated a humanitarian pause?

Because that is fantasyland.[/quote]

Muslims in Michigan, who Biden needs to win, are screaming that this will make them stay home. Democrats have this amazing ability to ignore their own voters who couldn't possibly be clearer and then be surprised when the voters do the thing they said they would do [/quote]

And in Michigan there are just as many union workers who voted for someone other than Biden in the past who will vote for him now.

I guess if Muslims in Michigan want to let Trump win and then be deported because they are Muslim, then they win or something.[/quote]

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