Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

[Anonymous]

Per Punchbowl Social (IDK who they are but they seem to have ppl in the room reporting to them) re the meeting happening now - “McCarthy comes back to the idea of clean CR with disaster aid

Member: “Now McCarthy is backtracking, wants to do a clean CR with disaster.”

McCarthy himself can’t seem to hold the line on a clean CR. What’s this disaster aid for?

[Anonymous]

Just saw this on twitter:

New:
@GOPMajorityWhip
telling House Republicans there is no path for a CR, no 14 day, no 30 day, no 45 day, there are six no’s on any CR

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CNN - House GOP meets at 930a as a plan has been under discussion: a CR until Nov. 17 extending current funding with disaster aid, per sources. Put it under suspension (2/3 majority) and rely on D votes, something McCarthy’s hard-right has told him not to do.

So I haven’t followed the politics of this so could someone explain - I though the reason a clean CR wasn’t an option weeks ago is bc the MAGA caucus demanded that any CR/budget have huge spending cuts. Granted maybe a clean CR passes without them - w Dems + moderate GOP. But then I thought the MAGA caucus has said if McCarthy gets it done that way with Dems, they’ll come after his speakership. Is McCarthy now implying he’d give up speakership? Maybe he would but I’m kind of surprised he’d offer that up pre shutdown.

I think they're hoping if they can separate Ukraine aid from the CR, that's enough cover for the MAGA to call it a win.

There's been a poster in another forum claiming that pulling Ukraine funding has always been the main issue due to kompromat. I'm starting to believe it.

I believe it too. The wapo called this “the shutdown about nothing.” It’s about something and this is it.

“I think if we had a clean one without Ukraine on it we could probably be able to move that through,” McCarthy said after a lengthy GOP conference meeting on Friday when asked about a clean continuing resolution.

Finally getting around to the point.

He said that yesterday but apparently some folks at the 930 meeting are reaching out to less reputable news orgs saying — “current House GOP plan doesn’t include any sort of CR.

They will put a plan to pay troops on floor, FAA extension, flood insurance, and border patrol.”

Might just be me but if we get a plan that pays military but not people at Labor, FERC or wherever doesn’t this drag longer? Now suddenly the number of unpaid goes from like 3.5 mil to like 1.5 mil roughly and the sob stories from some army wife taking on credit card debt for groceries are gone.

Yes. No one really cares about the other departments. They should.

[Anonymous]

NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this on twitter:

New:
@GOPMajorityWhip
telling House Republicans there is no path for a CR, no 14 day, no 30 day, no 45 day, there are six no’s on any CR

ugh. well it’s down to only six, at least. had been more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

Good news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

This is it folks. If this one fails we are shutting down - at least for a day - bc I doubt any other alternative gets to the floor today.

Actually even if this passes we prob shutdown as I doubt they can get a senate vote asap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

In contrast to what Emmer said above? (Majority Whip)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

Doesn’t this just seem like a blame shifting move? If/when this fails in either the House or Senate - GOP gets to say, WE wanted to keep govt open for us, but it’s the Dems more worried about Ukraine than the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

In contrast to what Emmer said above? (Majority Whip)

Who knows - both Emmers statement and this 45 day CR news came from the same meeting.

Is the Freedom Caucus over its budget cuts? I mean it’d be one think if it were a clean CR but CR + disaster aide doesn’t seem clean to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

This is it folks. If this one fails we are shutting down - at least for a day - bc I doubt any other alternative gets to the floor today.

Actually even if this passes we prob shutdown as I doubt they can get a senate vote asap.

I don’t disagree. But I think that a necessary number of House Ds would be ok with this. Same in the Senate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

A lot of Dems would have to support this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

Doesn’t this just seem like a blame shifting move? If/when this fails in either the House or Senate - GOP gets to say, WE wanted to keep govt open for us, but it’s the Dems more worried about Ukraine than the US.

Could be. But I also think it’s a legitimate effort to keep govt open and avoid a shutdown that goes any longer than Monday or Tuesday. Is the House GOP to blame for getting to this point? Absolutely. But the less crazy wing wants out of the box canyon. And I think they may have just found the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

A lot of Dems would have to support this.

Enough will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWS - House Rs gonna offer a 45 day CR with disaster aid but NO Ukraine funding.

On suspension, will look for Dem support. @SteveScalise says this will be on the floor “shortly”

Cite?