MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Did you watch the longer video starting at the 50 min mark. It is all there. People see what they want to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Agree. No mob-like behavior. PP has an interesting definition of a mob. Probably never seen one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Yeah, Haka, blackface, tomahawk chop ... all problematic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No "bothering", "harrassing", or "bigotry" displayed (at least in the video).

Someone standing in front of someone else.

More pointless outrage at nothing.

What was his point standing there so close to the singer with that smirk on his face? Are you trying to convince us he was listening respectfully and showing his appreciation of an indigenous song?

In smirk's defense, Phillips got in his face - not the other war around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No "bothering", "harrassing", or "bigotry" displayed (at least in the video).

Someone standing in front of someone else.

More pointless outrage at nothing.

What was his point standing there so close to the singer with that smirk on his face? Are you trying to convince us he was listening respectfully and showing his appreciation of an indigenous song?

In smirk's defense, Phillips got in his face - not the other war around.

Way, not war
Although war is appropriate in this case

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Yeah, Haka, blackface, tomahawk chop ... all problematic!

No blackface. But, you knew that. Tomahawk chop? Unclear if that is what they were doing.
A cheer?

Geez.... Leave it to liberals to make grinning at an elder and cheering as a group something that is now off limits.
I need the liberal manual to keep these rules straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He probably said he served during Vietnam and it got translated as serving IN Vietnam.

You realize that after the war, Phillips would've been treated like crap like all military was. Many of you don't know this, but after Vietnam until late in the Reagan presidency, veterans were discriminated against and not honored and respected like they are today. So Philips would've suffered from that too.

A lot of the anti-Veteran stories are just myths. "[A] 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly. A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement."

. . .
"The “war at home” phrase captured the idea that the war had been lost on the home front. It was a story line promulgated by Hollywood within which veteran disparagement became a kind of “war story,” a way of credentialing the warrior bona fides of veterans who may have felt insecure about their service in Vietnam. In “First Blood,” the inaugural Rambo film, the protagonist, John Rambo, flashes back to “those maggots at the airport, spittin’, callin’ us baby killers and all kinds of vile crap.” The series supported the idea that decisions in Washington had hamstrung military operations. “Apocalypse Now” fed outright conspiracy theories that the C.I.A.’s secret war run from Washington had undercut the military mission. “Coming Home” and “Hamburger Hill” played on male fears of unfaithful wives and girlfriends, a story line hinting that female perfidy and the feminist subversion of warrior morale had cost us victory."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.html

[Anonymous]

Expect the thread to die down slightly because Phillips and his Kickstarter documentary in which he claimed to serve in Vietnam and his Arlington ceremony in which he claimed to have returned from Vietnam and been spit on and been called a baby killer has been exposed.

He’s an attention hoe and a utter jerk for his actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Yeah, Haka, blackface, tomahawk chop ... all problematic!

No blackface. But, you knew that. Tomahawk chop? Unclear if that is what they were doing.
A cheer?

Geez.... Leave it to liberals to make grinning at an elder and cheering as a group something that is now off limits.
I need the liberal manual to keep these rules straight.

Blackface is a tradition at their school, apparently.

[Anonymous]

It is okay to act like an asshole, to call women sluts and yell that rape is okay as long as you weren't a jerk to a veteran who served in Vietnam.

Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Yeah, Haka, blackface, tomahawk chop ... all problematic!

No blackface. But, you knew that. Tomahawk chop? Unclear if that is what they were doing.
A cheer?

Geez.... Leave it to liberals to make grinning at an elder and cheering as a group something that is now off limits.
I need the liberal manual to keep these rules straight.

Blackface is a tradition at their school, apparently.

No. The pictures you have seen were at a "blackout game."
Proof:

NYTimes article about blackout games:https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/sports/ncaafootball/05blackout.html

Student who attended the school at the time: https://twitter.com/ryantoler_/status/1087517789684936704

Another student who attended school at the time: https://twitter.com/andrewcch12/status/1087532530130190336

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I watched all the videos too. I guess we will have to agree to disagree with what we saw. I saw crazy street preachers spouting nonsense at everyone in the vicinity. I saw kids who were misbehaving and acting like a mob. I saw someone try to diffuse the tension and succeeded until the kids turned on him. Now I see parents and a school who are not taking responsibility for raising kids who don't know how to behave in public, who don't know how to be respectful of other people, and who want to blame anyone else possible for their kid getting bad press.

What specifically was mob-like about the boys' behavior?

I saw kids doing a school cheer -- called the Haka. They were standing where they were told to stand while waiting for their bus -- on a gathering spot on the steps -- and one boy led them in a cheer. The Haka is kind of a wild cheer but I've seen it done before and they were doing it the way people do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw

Aside from that cheer that they were participating in, what exactly did you see was moblike behavior?

And why do you say "the kids turned on him"?? When did they do that? Did they yell at him because I didn't hear any audio of them yelling at him. Just clapping, jumping around to the drumming.

Yeah, Haka, blackface, tomahawk chop ... all problematic!

No blackface. But, you knew that. Tomahawk chop? Unclear if that is what they were doing.
A cheer?

Geez.... Leave it to liberals to make grinning at an elder and cheering as a group something that is now off limits.
I need the liberal manual to keep these rules straight.

Blackface is a tradition at their school, apparently.

No. The pictures you have seen were at a "blackout game."
Proof:

NYTimes article about blackout games:https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/sports/ncaafootball/05blackout.html

Student who attended the school at the time: https://twitter.com/ryantoler_/status/1087517789684936704

Another student who attended school at the time: https://twitter.com/andrewcch12/status/1087532530130190336

It doesn't matter. All your defense of blackface shows is that you're culturally ignorant. You don't do haka, the tomahawk chop, or paint your face like Al Jolson. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Since the school stood behind a rapist basketball player and sweeped it under the rug, what did you expect? Blackface, rape, NBD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He probably said he served during Vietnam and it got translated as serving IN Vietnam.

You realize that after the war, Phillips would've been treated like crap like all military was. Many of you don't know this, but after Vietnam until late in the Reagan presidency, veterans were discriminated against and not honored and respected like they are today. So Philips would've suffered from that too.

A lot of the anti-Veteran stories are just myths. "[A] 1971 Harris Poll survey that found that 99 percent of veterans said their reception from friends and family had been friendly, and 94 percent said their reception from age-group peers, the population most likely to have included the spitters, was friendly. A follow-up poll, conducted in 1979 for the Veterans Administration (now the Department of Veterans Affairs), reported that former antiwar activists had warmer feelings toward Vietnam veterans than toward congressional leaders or even their erstwhile fellow travelers in the movement."

. . .
"The “war at home” phrase captured the idea that the war had been lost on the home front. It was a story line promulgated by Hollywood within which veteran disparagement became a kind of “war story,” a way of credentialing the warrior bona fides of veterans who may have felt insecure about their service in Vietnam. In “First Blood,” the inaugural Rambo film, the protagonist, John Rambo, flashes back to “those maggots at the airport, spittin’, callin’ us baby killers and all kinds of vile crap.” The series supported the idea that decisions in Washington had hamstrung military operations. “Apocalypse Now” fed outright conspiracy theories that the C.I.A.’s secret war run from Washington had undercut the military mission. “Coming Home” and “Hamburger Hill” played on male fears of unfaithful wives and girlfriends, a story line hinting that female perfidy and the feminist subversion of warrior morale had cost us victory."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.html

No, it's not a myth. I lived it. I grew up in San Diego in the 70's in an area with a lot Navy and Marine families. The marines were easy to spot, with their short haircuts. They were not treated with respect. Our next door neighbor was a somewhat well-known commander of a Navy ship - his house was egged, cars vandalized, people would drive by the house in the middle of the night yelling things. They had to move away and hide to get away from it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since the school stood behind a rapist basketball player and sweeped it under the rug, what did you expect? Blackface, rape, NBD.

Why do you find it appropriate to vilify a whole school of students for what one student has done?

If a student at your child's school was convicted of a crime, oh, I don't know.. let's say murder - would you want others to vilify YOUR child for what another child did?