The White Lotus season 2

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Anonymous wrote:The trip to Sicily was Greg’s idea correct? I could not “see” a young Greg in that framed photo, but I assume it’s him.

Was there a discussion of their prenup in an earlier episode?

I connected the "cowboy" comment but agree I didn't think his picture looked like him. Yes, they discussed the prenup in Epi 2. Tanya encouraged him to quit his job but he pointed out that if the marriage failed he would be left with nothing per the prenup so felt he still needed to work.

Yeah the photo looked nothing like a younger version of Greg. I assume it is though when Tanya said 'wth' when she picked it up. But, I thought that would be enough to shock me out of a drugged daze if I saw my husband photo's in some gay man's lair.

You guys need to pause the episode and pull up a photo of him on your phone or something. It's his picture...

Agree very clearly a young greg

She was too high for the id to click?

What? It definitely clicked.

She’s processing slowly and then will stop big dik drug agent guy and wreak havoc on the party.

Too slowly, it's stressing me out!

In the previews they were having a normal-looking breakfast in the morning. So, if she did figure it out, I don't think she wreaked too much havoc

She's so desperate for attention and affection she might go along regardless. But I'm not convinced it really clicked.

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Anonymous wrote:The trip to Sicily was Greg’s idea correct? I could not “see” a young Greg in that framed photo, but I assume it’s him.

Was there a discussion of their prenup in an earlier episode?

I connected the "cowboy" comment but agree I didn't think his picture looked like him. Yes, they discussed the prenup in Epi 2. Tanya encouraged him to quit his job but he pointed out that if the marriage failed he would be left with nothing per the prenup so felt he still needed to work.

Yeah the photo looked nothing like a younger version of Greg. I assume it is though when Tanya said 'wth' when she picked it up. But, I thought that would be enough to shock me out of a drugged daze if I saw my husband photo's in some gay man's lair.

You guys need to pause the episode and pull up a photo of him on your phone or something. It's his picture...

Agree very clearly a young greg

She was too high for the id to click?

What? It definitely clicked.

For us or for Tanya? Because how is the reaction to seeing your husband in a picture in your stranger/host's house when your husband should have NO WAY of knowing your stranger/host to hook up with his hand-picked rentboy/drug/dealer/gun possessor. This is what I think anyone could class as poor decision making.

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Anonymous wrote:So everyone still romanticizing Portia’s fling? I knew he was trouble and was just as crass as I said he was 10 pages back.

And are we all still thinking Ethan and Harper have a better marriage?? They admitted they aren’t even attracted to each other. They haven’t even had kids yet.

Anyone think the pimp ends up killing one of the men or Lucia? Albie is crazy to still be hanging out with her after the car chase.

The Tanya thing is so weird. The gays are after her money obviously.

Brit guy is trouble and might end up knocking Portia off since she knows what he does to earn his keep and told her too much about a plan to get $ to save the villa. She’s slowly putting that together.

Could Valentina kill Mia because she is closeted gay and doesn’t want her secret out?

Who knows? I have no idea how they can tie everything up in just one more episode.

There were lots of hints that he was less than ideal but you seemed to pick all the ones that made you seem vaguely prejudice and classist.

Portia willingly had a fling with someone she met on vacation she didn’t know well. And clearly it has soured. I am not surprised but I’m not sure it makes the point you want it to.

I now think the gays are more into blackmail instead of murder. Honestly there were buckets of opportunities to kill her that night. Slip her some bad coke! Push her off a balcony. She was totally hopped up, would have be a piece of cake. So I don’t think he will kill portia but I do think he will keep her away regardless of how much she feels like she’s been kidnapped. I actually liked his speech about this being the best time to be alive.

I don’t think anyone will be murdered, like last season it will be incidental

What if it's not that at all, but Greg asked them to give Tanya the time of her life, knowing that he was going to be dying soon and wanting her to have her dream Italian vacation that he couldn't give her alone.

I kind of like this idea, but I feel like if there was nothing bad going on they wouldn't have gotten rid of Portia

I don't think they could have given Tanya that evening if Portia had been there. At least it would have been in jeopardy, because she could have come in and talked to Tanya and said this wasn't good for her. But that doesn't necessarily mean it was nefarious, although they are positioning it to look like it was. But maybe it wasn't! Maybe Greg is just grateful for the extra time he did have, stressed out because he is actually dying (maybe that was why he was so mean earlier, because he wanted to have a nice time too), but mostly trying to do something nice.

I can easily see it going the other way -- and I think the characters will figure out that direction and explore it before it's busted. jmho

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Anonymous wrote:I also saw an interview with the people who play Tanya and Greg and they said they think their characters really do love one another. Just sometimes Tanya is a little too much for Greg. That fits with the whole idea that this is a last gift from Greg before he dies, and maybe Quentin is just inheriting some money from Greg in exchange for showing Tanya a nice time.

It could be that all that's going on with Portia is that this will be her signal to wake up and take control of her life instead of drifting aimlessly, just like Tanya warned her. It doesn't have to be murder and mayhem. She has been such a dud all vacation drifting around not knowing what she wants. If she used her experience with Essex boy to reflect and take control of her life, it would explain her storyline.

I will have trouble with this if true (which I doubt). All Tanya really wants is Greg's love and attention.

Well, he did give her that for a day. He said that he's not good at relationships/marriage generally (he's been married 4 times), and if he's dying he has a lot on his mind probably.

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Anonymous wrote:So everyone still romanticizing Portia’s fling? I knew he was trouble and was just as crass as I said he was 10 pages back.

And are we all still thinking Ethan and Harper have a better marriage?? They admitted they aren’t even attracted to each other. They haven’t even had kids yet.

Anyone think the pimp ends up killing one of the men or Lucia? Albie is crazy to still be hanging out with her after the car chase.

The Tanya thing is so weird. The gays are after her money obviously.

Brit guy is trouble and might end up knocking Portia off since she knows what he does to earn his keep and told her too much about a plan to get $ to save the villa. She’s slowly putting that together.

Could Valentina kill Mia because she is closeted gay and doesn’t want her secret out?

Who knows? I have no idea how they can tie everything up in just one more episode.

There were lots of hints that he was less than ideal but you seemed to pick all the ones that made you seem vaguely prejudice and classist.

Portia willingly had a fling with someone she met on vacation she didn’t know well. And clearly it has soured. I am not surprised but I’m not sure it makes the point you want it to.

I now think the gays are more into blackmail instead of murder. Honestly there were buckets of opportunities to kill her that night. Slip her some bad coke! Push her off a balcony. She was totally hopped up, would have be a piece of cake. So I don’t think he will kill portia but I do think he will keep her away regardless of how much she feels like she’s been kidnapped. I actually liked his speech about this being the best time to be alive.

I don’t think anyone will be murdered, like last season it will be incidental

What if it's not that at all, but Greg asked them to give Tanya the time of her life, knowing that he was going to be dying soon and wanting her to have her dream Italian vacation that he couldn't give her alone.

I kind of like this idea, but I feel like if there was nothing bad going on they wouldn't have gotten rid of Portia

I don't think they could have given Tanya that evening if Portia had been there. At least it would have been in jeopardy, because she could have come in and talked to Tanya and said this wasn't good for her. But that doesn't necessarily mean it was nefarious, although they are positioning it to look like it was. But maybe it wasn't! Maybe Greg is just grateful for the extra time he did have, stressed out because he is actually dying (maybe that was why he was so mean earlier, because he wanted to have a nice time too), but mostly trying to do something nice.

I can easily see it going the other way -- and I think the characters will figure out that direction and explore it before it's busted. jmho

They pretty clearly showed us a camera in the painting though right? If it's just a crazy fun night not sure why they would need to make a video

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Anonymous wrote:Love how Mike White randomly drops red pills in this season and last season. The British nephew giving some well needed perspective and context to rebuke Portia’s woke prattling about the world falling apart is a prime example.

Yes. A valuable perspective from ... a guy that was in such a desperate situation that he drinks himself into oblivion and became a lover for hire for a gay con man.

A lot of great playwrights and screenwriters have their most foolish appearing characters say the most truthful things. It’s a narrative tactic that goes back centuries.

He’s basically quoting Harvard professor and author Steven Pinker, who is a darling of conservative intellectuals like Jordan Peterson. Disagree with either of them all you want, but they’re not stupid:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4597457

Would Portia like to live more in the Dark Ages or live through the Black Death? I wouldn’t think so, but a lot of liberals operate out of this absurd notion that the world is at its worst point ever. You don’t even need to look back centuries. Would Portia rather live in the 40s, during WW2 and the Holocaust? It’s absurd to think the world is worse off now than it ever was and this British kid points that out.

White has characters like Steve Zahn’s and Connie Briton’s offer the same rebukes to Zoomer woke platitudes in Season 1. It’s one of reasons why the show is so great and has a lot of courage in today’s artistic climate. White isn’t afraid to take on anyone or any idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting interview with Aubrey Plaza on the Still Watching podcast today.

She says that Harper is not attracted to Cameron at all, he represents pretty much everything she hates, and the more she learns about him the more she dislikes him.

She says that a lot of Harper’s anger at Ethan about the night with Cameron is about how he is behaving so differently with Cameron than he does around her. Like with her he is withdrawn, unadventurous. He won’t even break his routines to have sex with her, he seems so disinterested in her. But with Cameron he’s doing molly and staying up all night? Contrast this with Harper’s night in Noto where, despite taking an edible she remains 100% the same person and is focused on getting home and communicating with Ethan.

Also says she thinks of the show like a 7 hour movie because of how she read the scripts (all at once) and that she is “scared” of the finale.

I agree I think she does see him flirting with her and it just disgusts her further. I think what other people have read as 'flirting back' is more like incredulity that he's giving her eyes in front of Daphne. I see no version of events where they hooked up. But it is telling that in Noto Harper says that Ethan won't cheat on her and is right and even when faced with evidence he did she is skeptical and does seek out his version and I think does believe him although she's angry about the general events that DID happen. In contrast Ethan is faced with this minor moment of her absence and goes full paranoid psycho even though it would be ENTIRELY out of her character to get with Cameron on multiple levels. It just confirms what Harper is already mad about, that Ethan is all about Cameron. He is viewing the entire trip through Cameron's viewpoint not Harper. She is an incidental character in his vacation story. Something she has picked up on but he has not.

The preview for next week makes it seem like something definitely happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Love how Mike White randomly drops red pills in this season and last season. The British nephew giving some well needed perspective and context to rebuke Portia’s woke prattling about the world falling apart is a prime example.

Yes telling a woke millennial that the quality and safety of life - for all- is at all-time human history highs in 2022 was awesome perspective.

wait i didn't catch this part - what happened / what did he say?

I think they’re outside and he’s drunk and suddenly says this. He’s talking about Roman ages, nailing people to crosses to fry in the sun, Barbarians, burning witches— how far humans have come. And her she is complaining that the world is ending because of people.

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Anonymous wrote:The trip to Sicily was Greg’s idea correct? I could not “see” a young Greg in that framed photo, but I assume it’s him.

Was there a discussion of their prenup in an earlier episode?

I connected the "cowboy" comment but agree I didn't think his picture looked like him. Yes, they discussed the prenup in Epi 2. Tanya encouraged him to quit his job but he pointed out that if the marriage failed he would be left with nothing per the prenup so felt he still needed to work.

Yeah the photo looked nothing like a younger version of Greg. I assume it is though when Tanya said 'wth' when she picked it up. But, I thought that would be enough to shock me out of a drugged daze if I saw my husband photo's in some gay man's lair.

You guys need to pause the episode and pull up a photo of him on your phone or something. It's his picture...

Agree very clearly a young greg

She was too high for the id to click?

What? It definitely clicked.

For us or for Tanya? Because how is the reaction to seeing your husband in a picture in your stranger/host's house when your husband should have NO WAY of knowing your stranger/host to hook up with his hand-picked rentboy/drug/dealer/gun possessor. This is what I think anyone could class as poor decision making.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Love how Mike White randomly drops red pills in this season and last season. The British nephew giving some well needed perspective and context to rebuke Portia’s woke prattling about the world falling apart is a prime example.

Yes telling a woke millennial have the quality and safety of life - for all- is at all time human history highs in 2022 was awesome perspective.

wait i didn't catch this part - what happened / what did he say?

It was the first scene after he took Portia out with his “uncle’s” car so that his “uncle” could get Tanya high at the party. They’re drinking overlooking a gorgeous seaside town and Portia is ranting about how the world is falling apart and it’s the worst it’s ever been. The British kid, rightly, calls what she’s saying BS and asks her if she’d rather live in the Dark Ages when people were cutting each other to bits and points around and says the world is pretty good right now. And he’s right. Someone like Portia would be dead by 35 and live an utterly depressing life centuries ago. Yet she’s complaining about how much the world sucks while drinking a cocktail in a beach in Sicily. She had utterly no sense of appreciation or historical context, like a lot of woke kids these days.

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Anonymous wrote:The trip to Sicily was Greg’s idea correct? I could not “see” a young Greg in that framed photo, but I assume it’s him.

Was there a discussion of their prenup in an earlier episode?

I connected the "cowboy" comment but agree I didn't think his picture looked like him. Yes, they discussed the prenup in Epi 2. Tanya encouraged him to quit his job but he pointed out that if the marriage failed he would be left with nothing per the prenup so felt he still needed to work.

Yeah the photo looked nothing like a younger version of Greg. I assume it is though when Tanya said 'wth' when she picked it up. But, I thought that would be enough to shock me out of a drugged daze if I saw my husband photo's in some gay man's lair.

You guys need to pause the episode and pull up a photo of him on your phone or something. It's his picture...

Agree very clearly a young greg

She was too high for the id to click?

What? It definitely clicked.

For us or for Tanya? Because how is the reaction to seeing your husband in a picture in your stranger/host's house when your husband should have NO WAY of knowing your stranger/host to hook up with his hand-picked rentboy/drug/dealer/gun possessor. This is what I think anyone could class as poor decision making.

Maybe gay guys don’t know Greg exists and is coming around the corner soon?

Painting of dagger mad woman illustrates Tanya may not die.

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Anonymous wrote:Love how Mike White randomly drops red pills in this season and last season. The British nephew giving some well needed perspective and context to rebuke Portia’s woke prattling about the world falling apart is a prime example.

Yes telling a woke millennial have the quality and safety of life - for all- is at all time human history highs in 2022 was awesome perspective.

wait i didn't catch this part - what happened / what did he say?

It was the first scene after he took Portia out with his “uncle’s” car so that his “uncle” could get Tanya high at the party. They’re drinking overlooking a gorgeous seaside town and Portia is ranting about how the world is falling apart and it’s the worst it’s ever been. The British kid, rightly, calls what she’s saying BS and asks her if she’d rather live in the Dark Ages when people were cutting each other to bits and points around and says the world is pretty good right now. And he’s right. Someone like Portia would be dead by 35 and live an utterly depressing life centuries ago. Yet she’s complaining about how much the world sucks while drinking a cocktail in a beach in Sicily. She had utterly no sense of appreciation or historical context, like a lot of woke kids these days.

I would just like to tell you that you are by far the most tedious thing on this thread. And to be clear, when I made the "valuable perspective" comment my intent was to sarcastically mock people that insist upon thrusting their tedious redpill philosophy into every corner or existence. No one even wants to argue with you. They just want you to go away.

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Anonymous wrote:Love how Mike White randomly drops red pills in this season and last season. The British nephew giving some well needed perspective and context to rebuke Portia’s woke prattling about the world falling apart is a prime example.

Yes. A valuable perspective from ... a guy that was in such a desperate situation that he drinks himself into oblivion and became a lover for hire for a gay con man.

A lot of great playwrights and screenwriters have their most foolish appearing characters say the most truthful things. It’s a narrative tactic that goes back centuries.

He’s basically quoting Harvard professor and author Steven Pinker, who is a darling of conservative intellectuals like Jordan Peterson. Disagree with either of them all you want, but they’re not stupid:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4597457

Would Portia like to live more in the Dark Ages or live through the Black Death? I wouldn’t think so, but a lot of liberals operate out of this absurd notion that the world is at its worst point ever. You don’t even need to look back centuries. Would Portia rather live in the 40s, during WW2 and the Holocaust? It’s absurd to think the world is worse off now than it ever was and this British kid points that out.

White has characters like Steve Zahn’s and Connie Briton’s offer the same rebukes to Zoomer woke platitudes in Season 1. It’s one of reasons why the show is so great and has a lot of courage in today’s artistic climate. White isn’t afraid to take on anyone or any idea.

Agree.

Btw anyone who works in stats and economics knows current standard of living - iPhones, $$$ shoes, welfare programs, remittances that are huge % of EM countries gdp - is better than ever. Inflation may flatline.

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Anonymous wrote:The trip to Sicily was Greg’s idea correct? I could not “see” a young Greg in that framed photo, but I assume it’s him.

Was there a discussion of their prenup in an earlier episode?

I connected the "cowboy" comment but agree I didn't think his picture looked like him. Yes, they discussed the prenup in Epi 2. Tanya encouraged him to quit his job but he pointed out that if the marriage failed he would be left with nothing per the prenup so felt he still needed to work.

Yeah the photo looked nothing like a younger version of Greg. I assume it is though when Tanya said 'wth' when she picked it up. But, I thought that would be enough to shock me out of a drugged daze if I saw my husband photo's in some gay man's lair.

You guys need to pause the episode and pull up a photo of him on your phone or something. It's his picture...

Agree very clearly a young greg

She was too high for the id to click?

What? It definitely clicked.

For us or for Tanya? Because how is the reaction to seeing your husband in a picture in your stranger/host's house when your husband should have NO WAY of knowing your stranger/host to hook up with his hand-picked rentboy/drug/dealer/gun possessor. This is what I think anyone could class as poor decision making.

Maybe gay guys don’t know Greg exists and is coming around the corner soon?

Painting of dagger mad woman illustrates Tanya may not die.

The painting represents Dido's suicide. She killed herself due to heartbreak after Aeneas abandoned her.

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Anonymous wrote:Love how Mike White randomly drops red pills in this season and last season. The British nephew giving some well needed perspective and context to rebuke Portia’s woke prattling about the world falling apart is a prime example.

Yes telling a woke millennial have the quality and safety of life - for all- is at all time human history highs in 2022 was awesome perspective.

wait i didn't catch this part - what happened / what did he say?

It was the first scene after he took Portia out with his “uncle’s” car so that his “uncle” could get Tanya high at the party. They’re drinking overlooking a gorgeous seaside town and Portia is ranting about how the world is falling apart and it’s the worst it’s ever been. The British kid, rightly, calls what she’s saying BS and asks her if she’d rather live in the Dark Ages when people were cutting each other to bits and points around and says the world is pretty good right now. And he’s right. Someone like Portia would be dead by 35 and live an utterly depressing life centuries ago. Yet she’s complaining about how much the world sucks while drinking a cocktail in a beach in Sicily. She had utterly no sense of appreciation or historical context, like a lot of woke kids these days.

I would just like to tell you that you are by far the most tedious thing on this thread. And to be clear, when I made the "valuable perspective" comment my intent was to sarcastically mock people that insist upon thrusting their tedious redpill philosophy into every corner or existence. No one even wants to argue with you. They just want you to go away.

Np. What on earth is your problem? Having a bad Monday? No one even knows what your political red pill accusations are. Are you one of those highly sensitive, narrow minded young leftists from America?