FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".

Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..

How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?

Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.

Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.

Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.

DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.

Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.

It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.

Some of Bull Run is essentially across the street from CVHS. That makes no sense.

Example, please. I dont see it. One small area is more than 3 miles, the other is close to 3.

They are close to Mountain View which is probably what you are seeing on the map. Centreville and Liberty are both at the eastern edge of their boundaries.

All the Bull Run areas being considered for rezoning are closer to Centreville HS then they are to Westfield, some much closer.

Morning travel time from that area to Centreville: 6-14 minutes/3.6 miles. Morning travel time to Westfield: 14-30 minutes/7.3 miles

in contrast, from Lee's Corner ES: morning travel time to Chantilly HS: 4-7 minutes/1 mile. Morning travel time to Westfield:10-20 minutes/4.6 miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

If its not that big a deal, why are the Chantilly families crying about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

If its not that big a deal, why are the Chantilly families crying about it?

haha, you know why

[Anonymous]

Chantilly will already be losing a full feeder to Skyview, which probably won’t be quite as highly rated. The difference between Skyview and Chantilly will be about the same as the difference between Centreville and Westfield, and is not worth putting up a big fight about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

If its not that big a deal, why are the Chantilly families crying about it?

Maybe because the Chantilly people live less than 2 miles from Chantilly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".

Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..

How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?

Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.

Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.

Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.

DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.

Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.

It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.

Some of Bull Run is essentially across the street from CVHS. That makes no sense.

Example, please. I dont see it. One small area is more than 3 miles, the other is close to 3.

They are close to Mountain View which is probably what you are seeing on the map. Centreville and Liberty are both at the eastern edge of their boundaries.

All the Bull Run areas being considered for rezoning are closer to Centreville HS then they are to Westfield, some much closer.

Morning travel time from that area to Centreville: 6-14 minutes/3.6 miles. Morning travel time to Westfield: 14-30 minutes/7.3 miles

in contrast, from Lee's Corner ES: morning travel time to Chantilly HS: 4-7 minutes/1 mile. Morning travel time to Westfield:10-20 minutes/4.6 miles.

so basically the same for both areas. an addition 8 to 16 minutes for centreville area and 6 to 13 minutes for lees corner. one isn’t wildly worse in terms of the new commute to the other. lees corner seems honestly better. shorter from lees corner to westfield than the centreville school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".

Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..

How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?

Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.

Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.

Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.

DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.

Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.

It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.

Some of Bull Run is essentially across the street from CVHS. That makes no sense.

Example, please. I dont see it. One small area is more than 3 miles, the other is close to 3.

They are close to Mountain View which is probably what you are seeing on the map. Centreville and Liberty are both at the eastern edge of their boundaries.

All the Bull Run areas being considered for rezoning are closer to Centreville HS then they are to Westfield, some much closer.

Morning travel time from that area to Centreville: 6-14 minutes/3.6 miles. Morning travel time to Westfield: 14-30 minutes/7.3 miles

in contrast, from Lee's Corner ES: morning travel time to Chantilly HS: 4-7 minutes/1 mile. Morning travel time to Westfield:10-20 minutes/4.6 miles.

so basically the same for both areas. an addition 8 to 16 minutes for centreville area and 6 to 13 minutes for lees corner. one isn’t wildly worse in terms of the new commute to the other. lees corner seems honestly better. shorter from lees corner to westfield than the centreville school.

No. Not basically the same thing at all. All of Lee's Corner would be adding far more time. You are comparing the closest Bull Run kids--not the majority of them. Most of Bull Run would not be adding any time at all. All of Lee's Corner is less than two miles--maybe one street or two is 2.2. Many students are less than one and a half miles and some are less than a mile.

And, MANY Lee's Corner kids are able to walk home for afterschool activities. I don't think that applies to any Bull Run kids.

Unfortunately for Bull Run, their students don't live near any high school--except for a handful that are "only" about 3 miles from Centreville. Let them stay at Centreville. Bull Run is already a split feeder.

[Anonymous]

It seems that there are plans for building more housing in Cville. Makes sense for bull run to move in preparation for the new housing developments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

If its not that big a deal, why are the Chantilly families crying about it?

Maybe because the Chantilly people live less than 2 miles from Chantilly?

+1 this exactly.

[Anonymous]

The first meeting on the new maps is supposed to be this Thursday. When are the new moats coming out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

If its not that big a deal, why are the Chantilly families crying about it?

Maybe because the Chantilly people live less than 2 miles from Chantilly?

+1 this exactly.

The problem is they built Westfield in the middle of an office park, so there is no one that’s close (i.e. walking distance). There just neighborhoods that are closer than others. Some on here have suggested turning it into a magnet school or having it house all acadmey programs, which would be a great idea because people would be electing to go there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems that there are plans for building more housing in Cville. Makes sense for bull run to move in preparation for the new housing developments.

Where the heck are the jobs for the masses of new high density housing they keep building?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?

Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.

Its interesting that no one is allowed a preference to stay at their current school if its a school pp thinks is beneath their own kid. Clearly people want to stay at CVHS.
If there is no difference between the big western high schools, why is everyone screaming so loudly about being moved from Chantilly, Oakton or Centreville? The people who live there seem to think there is a big difference.

We know you’ve convinced yourself that Westfield is beneath your kid but the difference between Westfield and Centreville is negligible and doesn’t warrant your putting up a big fuss just because you think it’s the thing to do.

The sooner they announce the new boundaries the better. Silly that Reid thought dragging this out even further was a good idea.

If its not that big a deal, why are the Chantilly families crying about it?

Maybe because the Chantilly people live less than 2 miles from Chantilly?

+1 this exactly.

The problem is they built Westfield in the middle of an office park, so there is no one that’s close (i.e. walking distance). There just neighborhoods that are closer than others. Some on here have suggested turning it into a magnet school or having it house all acadmey programs, which would be a great idea because people would be electing to go there.

So, where are you gong to put a school that is close to Sully Station? Virginia Run? Bull Run? not to mention all that residential new construction presently going up in your "office park?" Have you driven around there lately? Lee Rd between Costco and Willard Rd? Another development across from Sully Government Center? A development near the Westfield DMV? Plus lots of development around Wegman's on Westfield Blvd.