FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:The Bull Run zone has many families who are much closer to Centreville HS, in miles and time, than Westfield. If you can't admit that indisputable fact, then you have no credibility.


Bull Run is already a split feeder so it’s obvious that eliminating the split feeder and sending all the school to Westfield makes sense. And then maybe they can scale back the over-the-top scope of the Centreville expansion.


Is this true, or not?: The Bull Run zone has many families who are much closer to Centreville HS, in miles and time, than Westfield. If you can't admit that indisputable fact, then you have no credibility.
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Eliminating split feeders seemed to be way, way down the priority list with both consultants. They created new split feeders in several of these scenarios.
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The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


I'm not triggered by LCES staying at Chantilly, and I actually have a dog in this fight.

What does concern me is hyperbolic statements and people who don't have a dog in the fight thinking their ridiculous statements have any weight.


To take a neighborhoods that are extremely close to their current high school and move it to a high school that is much, much further away and separated from all the other neighborhoods attending to that school is just wrong.

Chantilly is already losing one school. Take the kids who go to Cub Run and be done with it. Westfield has new construction to fill the space, as well.



"Much, much farther away" is yet another hyperbole. Westfield is 4.8 miles from Chantilly. It isn’t as though they are proposing sending Lees Corner kids to West Potomac, South County, or Hayfield. It isn't even 5 miles away from Chantilly.

By the way, it is farther, not further.
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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.


The various scenarios proposed by the latest consultants created multiple split feeders.
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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.


Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?
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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.


The various scenarios proposed by the latest consultants created multiple split feeders.


PP was focusing on the prior changes actually adopted, not those floated for discussion purposes.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


I'm not triggered by LCES staying at Chantilly, and I actually have a dog in this fight.

What does concern me is hyperbolic statements and people who don't have a dog in the fight thinking their ridiculous statements have any weight.


To take a neighborhoods that are extremely close to their current high school and move it to a high school that is much, much further away and separated from all the other neighborhoods attending to that school is just wrong.

Chantilly is already losing one school. Take the kids who go to Cub Run and be done with it. Westfield has new construction to fill the space, as well.



"Much, much farther away" is yet another hyperbole. Westfield is 4.8 miles from Chantilly. It isn’t as though they are proposing sending Lees Corner kids to West Potomac, South County, or Hayfield. It isn't even 5 miles away from Chantilly.

By the way, it is farther, not further.


Point taken on further farther.

The rest of your argument defies common sense.
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Anonymous wrote:The boundary changes adopted earlier this year eliminated several split feeders. Under the circumstances eliminating the Bull Run split feeder is obviously sensible. Chantilly gets relief by moving Oak Hill to Skyview and Centreville gets relief by moving Bull Run to Westfield.

The Centreville parents acting like a move to Westfield is beneath them are ridiculous. There is very little difference between those schools.


Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by this?


Big 9-12 high schools in southwestern Fairfax with AP courses, considerable diversity, and middle-of-the-pack test scores and academic reputations for FCPS. Neither has an Academy program.

When you consider that one reason for opening Skyview is to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, and that moving some CVHS kids to Westfield now could space taxpayers the cost of expanding Centreville to a ridiculous 3000 seats, it’s clear that moving the rest of a school that is already a split feeder to Centreville and Westfield (Bull Run) makes more sense than reassigning a school that’s closer to its current high school.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.


Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.


Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.


It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.
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Anonymous wrote:This discussion is so sad and illustrates how the foolish School Board, in deciding to gift a high school to selfish families who don’t like their current schools, ignored the available capacity at Herndon and are ready to screw other Chantilly and Centreville families. I hope Dixit and Lady, in particular, get voted out next year.


Do you even know where Herndon High School is? It is on the other side of the Town of Herndon. It is not close.
Westfield is not close.

This high school should have been built years ago and you begrudge that to these kids?

Who is the selfish one here?


You’re the selfish one, sweetheart. More than happy to waste money and inconvenience others so you can escape the schools you were already zoned for.


DP but calm down. We don’t care about your kids, we care about our kids. Just like you clearly don’t care about our kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.


Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.


It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.


Some of Bull Run is essentially across the street from CVHS. That makes no sense.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.


Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.


It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.


Some of Bull Run is essentially across the street from CVHS. That makes no sense.


Example, please. I dont see it. One small area is more than 3 miles, the other is close to 3.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought that area's whole sob story was that they were all walkers and a new boundary to Westfield would turn them in to bus riders.

If we are paying to send high school bus routes through all of Lees Corner anyway, I don't think their argument holds a lot of water. A few high school kids playing frogger does not make an entire ES boundary "walkers".


Increasing bus ride by 5 to 6 miles and increasing it more than 30 minutes is significant..


How is it possible to increase the commute by 5 to 6 miles when Chantilly and Westfield are only 4.8 miles apart?


Because Lees Corner is literally across the street from Chantilly. If you out then at Westfield, they have to then travel an additional 5-6 miles. Westfield is very far down 50 and the traffic and lights are horrific.


Math isn't your strong point, is it?

If your commute to Chantilly is 0.5 miles, and your commute to Westfield is 5.3 miles, that is not an increase of 5 to 6 miles.


Ok so I’m off by 0.2 miles then? You sound idiotic. Why are you so triggered by Lees Corner staying at Chantilly? It makes sense and I’m not even a Lees Corner parent.

I have a hunch you are RIO trying to throw the heat off of yourself.


DP
Just checked:
Right now, Lees Corner is 4 minutes from Chantilly and 12 minutes to Westfield. That's triple the time.
Bull Run is 12 minutes to Westfield and 12 minutes to Centreville. No difference.


Doesn't matter, you have to go based off a bus route. That complicates things considerably.


It’s not that complicated. Moving Oak Hill from Chantilly to Skyview and the part of Bull Run that doesn’t already go to Westfield there achieves the goal of reducing the enrollments at both Centreville and Chantilly.


Some of Bull Run is essentially across the street from CVHS. That makes no sense.


Haha, no. Some of it may be essentially across the street from Mountain View, but not CVHS.
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