US has no good options in Ukraine

Anonymous
If Putin loses the Miltiary, there won't be a lot of bloodshed. Reports from Ukraine are mixed - it isn't going as planned despite the devastation bring brought by the Russians.
Anonymous
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Wasn't Biden supposed to be a Ukraine expert? Wasn't he going to rebuild our relationship with our NATO allies?

Of all foreign policy issues it seems like this is one he would be able to handle like a pro.

Why does it look like more uncoordinated flailing?

Biden is a fumbling mess and quite temperamental and rash just like Trump and this is from Obama insiders /staff who worked along with him during Pres Obamas term in office. Hillary was far more liked and respected despite the bad blood from the campaign


Wtf? Both these posts are nonsense. Is this what Fox’s talking points are today?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Putin loses the Miltiary, there won't be a lot of bloodshed. Reports from Ukraine are mixed - it isn't going as planned despite the devastation bring brought by the Russians.


He is not going anywhere. Russia has a long tradition of suffering brutal and incompetent leaders. He will just kill a few generals for their failure and everyone will fall in line.
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We turned our backs on Ukraine. A democracy led by a President who, though not perfect, had worked to protect the interests of our NATO allies and the United States (while being undermined by Trump, Bannon, and the rest of the Republican-led Putin fan club).

This quote below from Zelensky to the Ukrainian people is so heartbreaking. Shame on the west, shame on Trump and the GOP (why do you love Putin more than Democracy), and shame on Biden for not being more authoritative at this critical time.

“This morning, we are defending our country all alone,” Mr. Zelensky said Friday, wearing a military sweatshirt. “The most powerful nations of the world are just watching from afar. Only solidarity and decisiveness by Ukrainians will be able to preserve our freedom and our state.”

And for those who say, who cares about Ukraine. What does that have to do with us in the States. Remember who Putin is and what he’s after. He’s after the end of Democracy and the demise of the US. It will be at your doorstep one way or another unless he is stopped now.


This is what’s crazy to me.

How can we let Putin roll into Ukraine and just take it? Does anyone believe he will stop at just Ukraine? Why would he when it’s so easy to just take it?

He has nukes, and he’s not afraid to use them. I’m convinced he has a terminal diagnosis and is pulling the trigger on his long term plan to rebuild now because he has nothing to lose. If you’ve watched him speak recently, it’s clear he’s not going to back down.

We should have helped Ukraine as soon as Russia started firing missiles. Now the US looks weak to Russia as well as Ukraine and the rest of the world who assumed we would help.


Well, that would explain his paranoia about COVID.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
If Putin loses the Miltiary, there won't be a lot of bloodshed. Reports from Ukraine are mixed - it isn't going as planned despite the devastation bring brought by the Russians.


He is not going anywhere. Russia has a long tradition of suffering brutal and incompetent leaders. He will just kill a few generals for their failure and everyone will fall in line.


The past is not prologue. There was no internet or social media in that "long tradition of suffering". The post modern world requires a more educated populace (in every developed nation). People in Russia can now read and write. I wouldn't discount anything.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are other countries taking in Ukrainians?

We should bring them here first. All of them.



Lol. So predictable I think more people coming be the southern border are fluent in English than vs the 13% of Ukrainians who speak somewhat passable English. Which mean means the vast majority would be completely unemployable, yes just what we need, but hey at least they aren’t brown. Not to mention their strong cultural ties and traditions that have nada to do with an American way of life, being from an entirely separate continent, vastly different chitin and no ability to communicate, yeah that’s a great idea! Yet somehow we should be jumping up and down, to welcome people who more than likely have no desire to come to this country where they will have to Live as refugees and paupers. We don’t even have universal healthcare. If I’m a Ukrainian and I have to leave my homeland I’m going to anyplace in Golden ticket Northern Europe where at least I can enjoy a decent standard of living, free housing, decent education and relatively free healthcare.




America is such a dump that even fleeing Ukrainians don’t want to come here.

Anonymous
Anyone come across a potential scenario where Putin is only targeting military bases and airports?

Also biological labs best of next to the Russian border?

Boots on the ground suspect this is to remove fake puppet DC-installed politicians to eliminate all that corruption (did anyone say Hunter?) and all the money laundering and child sexual trafficking that comes with it?

There are reports of people in Kiev claiming all western media is deceiving us
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Putin loses the Miltiary, there won't be a lot of bloodshed. Reports from Ukraine are mixed - it isn't going as planned despite the devastation bring brought by the Russians.


He is not going anywhere. Russia has a long tradition of suffering brutal and incompetent leaders. He will just kill a few generals for their failure and everyone will fall in line.


This.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone come across a potential scenario where Putin is only targeting military bases and airports?

Also biological labs best of next to the Russian border?

Boots on the ground suspect this is to remove fake puppet DC-installed politicians to eliminate all that corruption (did anyone say Hunter?) and all the money laundering and child sexual trafficking that comes with it?

There are reports of people in Kiev claiming all western media is deceiving us


What are you blabbering about? They are targeting hospitals, hit a kindergarten in Sumy. What “dc installed politicians”???? You are giving yourself too much credit! The politicians were voted in by Ukrainians. You are negating the will of a 40 million nation in a self centric pro russian narrative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone come across a potential scenario where Putin is only targeting military bases and airports?

Also biological labs best of next to the Russian border?

Boots on the ground suspect this is to remove fake puppet DC-installed politicians to eliminate all that corruption (did anyone say Hunter?) and all the money laundering and child sexual trafficking that comes with it?

There are reports of people in Kiev claiming all western media is deceiving us


You're trying to Pizzagate Ukraine, lol. There are reports of people in Mosow claiming it's all a simulation and Putin is a lizard person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
If Putin loses the Miltiary, there won't be a lot of bloodshed. Reports from Ukraine are mixed - it isn't going as planned despite the devastation bring brought by the Russians.


He is not going anywhere. Russia has a long tradition of suffering brutal and incompetent leaders. He will just kill a few generals for their failure and everyone will fall in line.


The past is not prologue. There was no internet or social media in that "long tradition of suffering". The post modern world requires a more educated populace (in every developed nation). People in Russia can now read and write. I wouldn't discount anything.


Once a coward, always a coward. This is why the 2nd amendment is so important here.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We turned our backs on Ukraine. A democracy led by a President who, though not perfect, had worked to protect the interests of our NATO allies and the United States (while being undermined by Trump, Bannon, and the rest of the Republican-led Putin fan club).

This quote below from Zelensky to the Ukrainian people is so heartbreaking. Shame on the west, shame on Trump and the GOP (why do you love Putin more than Democracy), and shame on Biden for not being more authoritative at this critical time.

“This morning, we are defending our country all alone,” Mr. Zelensky said Friday, wearing a military sweatshirt. “The most powerful nations of the world are just watching from afar. Only solidarity and decisiveness by Ukrainians will be able to preserve our freedom and our state.”

And for those who say, who cares about Ukraine. What does that have to do with us in the States. Remember who Putin is and what he’s after. He’s after the end of Democracy and the demise of the US. It will be at your doorstep one way or another unless he is stopped now.


Trump???? HAHAHAHA. After all they paid Biden’s kid, I bet they thought they bought Biden and family. Trump was the one who sent them the weapons they are using.

You people need some serious mental help.


You do realize that Trump tried extorting Zelensky for military aid? And per the Javelins, Trump only okayed those grudgingly and then put restrictions on where the weapons could be placed (in the west) that undercut their ability to be used in the exact scenario Ukraine finds itself in today.

You need to stop sucking the propaganda pipe. Trump undercut Ukraine and further fortified Russia - we are now seeing what that reaped.


I realized it was reported that Trump tried extorting Zelensky. There is a lot of reporting on Trump that we are now finding out is false. No surprise there. You can keep blaming whoever you want to blame, but Putin made his move under Biden’s reign. He must have thought it was the right time to do so, as well as the right time to threaten the US and Europe with nukes. He clearly saw weakness.


There's a transcript tovarich. Things must be going worse for Russia than we thought. Y'all be getting desperate.
Anonymous
How significant is this

Anonymous
The russians are absolutely targeting civilians. They also took control of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant (3 reactors of which are still operational), which they’d probably use to blackmail Ukraine and Europe.

Anonymous
I know that Putin is looking at everybody putting the Ukrainian flag on their Facebook profile and is quaking in his shoes.
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