Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

This has nothing to do with “upper middle class white people,” dummy. It has to do with rich, entitled assholes.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the impact of this on college admissions outside the tiny number of "right" schools that seem to grad so much of the limelight? Is it really a systemic problem with American higher education? Or a problem that is limited to a few highly sought after schools?

There is no evidence that more coaches are taking bribes.

However the reason that this could happen is because athletes get such a bump. And probably because athletic directors aren’t performing any oversight and ensuring that athletes are actually capable.

Taking athletic departments out of the admission process would help, as would removing athlete preferences.

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Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that exactly 50 names were given up. I am sure he selected those names with purpose and kept off hundreds that he wanted protected. I think the lawsuit should demand all the names.

He has given up 750. The US attorney cherry picked the biggest names at the beginning. The other 750 will come out in time as the investigation continues.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/college-cheating-mastermind-says-he-helped-nearly-800-families-admissions-n982666

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the hysterics and I don't know how any private school parents in this area that could be surprised by this - the ruse of recruiting wealthy unqualified athletes that somehow never play a game is rampant.

Meanwhile, the ruse of recruiting athletes who are unqualified students that somehow never opened a book continues unabated.

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What was stupid was they could have done it “legit”. At our private, the waalthy kids play tennis, squash, lacrosse, soccer - not crew unless a cox as it is time consuming and brutal or football unless the kicker. Not track or cross country either.

So then at college admissions time, the HS counselor will call schools on these kids behalf as their wealthy parents (we are talking generational wealth or PE or HF) have donated to the HS and HS counselor will indicate to college that wealthy parents will also donate to college. And these are for HYP, Stanford and then the rest of ivies (not Cornell), Duke - nothing less for these kids. It has gotten so obvious that $$$ and athletic recruits are being bundled as the side door in for these wealthy kids that the school will no longer publish the academic achievements of the class at graduation. Why? Because it is then so obvious to everyone that the top kids of the class are not getting into the top schools but the wealthy “athletes” are. Going to Wharton when everyone knows u took the easiest class but was “recruited”? None of these kids are at national level at their sport but recruited to HYP.

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Will Tobin’s daughters be asked to leave Yale the same as the girls who left USC?

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The colleges should refund all application fees for the past 10 years and pay every student who applied an amount of money equal to the time spent on an application. Maybe the same hourly rate as all the lawyers get. So application fee $85.00 and 6 hours on an application (all those extra essays) x $500= about $3085 plus compensation for the stress maybe another $1000. So about $5000 to every student that was rejected from Yale, USC, etc the past ten years. The commoners want justice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

This has nothing to do with “upper middle class white people,” dummy. It has to do with rich, entitled assholes.

No it has to do with UMC white peoples and Asians who have stacked the deck against the poors and are getting a taste of their own medicine.

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Anonymous wrote:The colleges should refund all application fees for the past 10 years and pay every student who applied an amount of money equal to the time spent on an application. Maybe the same hourly rate as all the lawyers get. So application fee $85.00 and 6 hours on an application (all those extra essays) x $500= about $3085 plus compensation for the stress maybe another $1000. So about $5000 to every student that was rejected from Yale, USC, etc the past ten years. The commoners want justice.

by commoners you mean white people making $150K a year.

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Anonymous wrote:The colleges should refund all application fees for the past 10 years and pay every student who applied an amount of money equal to the time spent on an application. Maybe the same hourly rate as all the lawyers get. So application fee $85.00 and 6 hours on an application (all those extra essays) x $500= about $3085 plus compensation for the stress maybe another $1000. So about $5000 to every student that was rejected from Yale, USC, etc the past ten years. The commoners want justice.

Nah, we just want to see the 750 parents with a documented attempt to grift the system jailed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The colleges should refund all application fees for the past 10 years and pay every student who applied an amount of money equal to the time spent on an application. Maybe the same hourly rate as all the lawyers get. So application fee $85.00 and 6 hours on an application (all those extra essays) x $500= about $3085 plus compensation for the stress maybe another $1000. So about $5000 to every student that was rejected from Yale, USC, etc the past ten years. The commoners want justice.

by commoners you mean white people making $150K a year.

Donut hole families have it the worst. For them, college is a massive sacrifice.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

This has nothing to do with “upper middle class white people,” dummy. It has to do with rich, entitled assholes.

DP. Why do you need to call PPP a dummy? Can you not get your ideas across without calling people names?

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Anonymous wrote:Playing sports competitively in college is fine. Hiring athletes is fine.

Giving such an admissions preference to recruited athletes is nonsensical for academic institutions.

Remember Boys in the Hood? Ricky was recruited to play football at usc and couldn’t get the 700 on the sat he needed to play. He finally gets the 710 and they find out after he’s killed. Ahhh USC athletics.

Applause

And the scene with the coach coming over to Ricky's house to recruit him made it clear that the coach had all the power in the world to get him into USC (and keep him enrolled there) as long as he got the 700--it didn't matter he was failing classes and it didn't matter that he wasn't prepared in any way--academically or emotionally or socially--for college.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The college admission scandal is basically 9/11 for upper middle class white people. Haven’t seen them so upset by something in years.

This has nothing to do with “upper middle class white people,” dummy. It has to do with rich, entitled assholes.

No it has to do with UMC white peoples and Asians who have stacked the deck against the poors and are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Eh? This is pretty stupid. UMC white people and Asians probably have the most difficult time in college admissions because they are the largest groups applying to college and don't have the special hooks or minority status.

All these people nabbed in the cheating scandal were outright rich. Very rich. You have to be rich to easily write checks for hundreds of thousands of dollars just to cheat on the SAT. You only do that if the money means nothing to you. An UMC family, even with a few million net worth, is not writing 6 figure checks to cheat on the SATs. The law firm boss was pulling in an income of 10 million a year. The Abbotts in New York with their blunt smoking son have their apartment on the market for $20 million. Felicity the actress was arrested at her $35 million dollar LA house. That's the kind of wealth we're talking about. Not upper middle class making a few hundred grand a year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The colleges should refund all application fees for the past 10 years and pay every student who applied an amount of money equal to the time spent on an application. Maybe the same hourly rate as all the lawyers get. So application fee $85.00 and 6 hours on an application (all those extra essays) x $500= about $3085 plus compensation for the stress maybe another $1000. So about $5000 to every student that was rejected from Yale, USC, etc the past ten years. The commoners want justice.

by commoners you mean white people making $150K a year.

I spent my childhood in poverty and worked my way through college. I can be white and feel outrage at yet another level of corruption in this country. Stop shaming white people. I didn’t realize as I worked my way out of poverty that this country was run by scamming criminal elites.