Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

Just caught the tail end of former Air Force general on the radio; he thinks the plane is in Pakistan. The part I caught was basically that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan, and others at Boeing are clamming up. Here's why this is interesting: the general said that hat based on past communications with troubled aircraft in the past--where they knew there was trouble and contacted air traffic control to tell the pilot what to do--that there is a great likelihood that Boeing has a monitoring system and thus knows where every one of their planes are at all times.

I googled and found this article and video. The video is really interesting, and yes, he comments on Israel beefing up security, and the US pulling back from the search in the south, and also references that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-gen-doubles-down-on-claim-malaysian-plane-could-be-in-pakistan-to-be-used-for-terror/

After reading a slate.com article (referenced by a PP a few days ago) that referred to a Reuters article that said (sort of bottom-lining it here) that India probably would not notice this plane, I'm thinking it's not out of the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just caught the tail end of former Air Force general on the radio; he thinks the plane is in Pakistan. The part I caught was basically that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan, and others at Boeing are clamming up. Here's why this is interesting: the general said that hat based on past communications with troubled aircraft in the past--where they knew there was trouble and contacted air traffic control to tell the pilot what to do--that there is a great likelihood that Boeing has a monitoring system and thus knows where every one of their planes are at all times.

I googled and found this article and video. The video is really interesting, and yes, he comments on Israel beefing up security, and the US pulling back from the search in the south, and also references that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-gen-doubles-down-on-claim-malaysian-plane-could-be-in-pakistan-to-be-used-for-terror/

After reading a slate.com article (referenced by a PP a few days ago) that referred to a Reuters article that said (sort of bottom-lining it here) that India probably would not notice this plane, I'm thinking it's not out of the question.

But why wouldn't Boeing release that info? I can't believe they'd worry about losing customer over this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just caught the tail end of former Air Force general on the radio; he thinks the plane is in Pakistan. The part I caught was basically that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan, and others at Boeing are clamming up. Here's why this is interesting: the general said that hat based on past communications with troubled aircraft in the past--where they knew there was trouble and contacted air traffic control to tell the pilot what to do--that there is a great likelihood that Boeing has a monitoring system and thus knows where every one of their planes are at all times.

I googled and found this article and video. The video is really interesting, and yes, he comments on Israel beefing up security, and the US pulling back from the search in the south, and also references that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-gen-doubles-down-on-claim-malaysian-plane-could-be-in-pakistan-to-be-used-for-terror/

After reading a slate.com article (referenced by a PP a few days ago) that referred to a Reuters article that said (sort of bottom-lining it here) that India probably would not notice this plane, I'm thinking it's not out of the question.

But why wouldn't Boeing release that info? I can't believe they'd worry about losing customer over this.

It isn't so much about losing customers. It is more about security and gaps in security in the countries the plane flew over. If 'people' find out that the plane flew over country x completely undetected, that makes country x look really bad and also shows their vulnerabilities, opening them up to further attack. It is very embarrassing and concerning for any country to say that they missed an unidentified aircraft flying through their airspace for hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just caught the tail end of former Air Force general on the radio; he thinks the plane is in Pakistan. The part I caught was basically that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan, and others at Boeing are clamming up. Here's why this is interesting: the general said that hat based on past communications with troubled aircraft in the past--where they knew there was trouble and contacted air traffic control to tell the pilot what to do--that there is a great likelihood that Boeing has a monitoring system and thus knows where every one of their planes are at all times.

I googled and found this article and video. The video is really interesting, and yes, he comments on Israel beefing up security, and the US pulling back from the search in the south, and also references that some people in Boeing think the plane is in Pakistan.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fmr-gen-doubles-down-on-claim-malaysian-plane-could-be-in-pakistan-to-be-used-for-terror/

After reading a slate.com article (referenced by a PP a few days ago) that referred to a Reuters article that said (sort of bottom-lining it here) that India probably would not notice this plane, I'm thinking it's not out of the question.

which radio station? NPR?

[Anonymous]

I wonder if countries are really cooperating. We have such a strange relationship with Pakistan-they are allies, yet they housed Bin Laden. Would they share if there was a plane there? Does Malaysia have good relationships with all of the countries we need to help in the search?

I assume the phone, email, etc records of the pilots are being searched. Surprised nothing has come out there.

There is probably a lot that has been discovered and not shared yet.

[Anonymous]

A slightly more detailed version of the known timeline
http://abcnews.go.com/International/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-changing-timeline/story?id=22924054

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I wonder if countries are really cooperating. We have such a strange relationship with Pakistan-they are allies, yet they housed Bin Laden. Would they share if there was a plane there? Does Malaysia have good relationships with all of the countries we need to help in the search?

I assume the phone, email, etc records of the pilots are being searched. Surprised nothing has come out there.

There is probably a lot that has been discovered and not shared yet.

I agree. I think the public has probably been told about 5% of what is known collectively.
I think countries have shared with each other maybe 40% of what is known
And about 50% of what is known is being held closely to the chest of the countries who have the info - not wanting to release sensitive or security information to other countries.

P.S. those % are meaningless- just estimated to make my point

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why the US has not beefed up it defensives?

Because the US seems to "know" that it crashed into the Indian Ocean to the south. I think they must have some radar information that can't be revealed due to security issues and secret satellites. The US has narrowed on an area in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Australia that is the size of France based on currents and satellite data (much smaller than the previous area they were looking at). Apparently the Australians are in charge of searching this area. My guess is that they'll find some debris in this zone in the next day. They probably won't find the site of the actual crash due to the currents over the past 10 days.

[Anonymous]

Here's an interesting tidbit from an article I linked to-not sure how reliable the source is..:

- "Reports are emerging that the missing MH370 aircraft could have been using cutting-edge electronic warfare technology that can hide a plane from the radar.Further fuelling speculation is a confirmation by US-based Freescale Semiconductor, which manufactures hi-tech weapons systems and aircraft navigation, that 20 of its experts were passengers on the missing aircraft. - See more at: http://www.relax.com.sg/article/news/missing-mh370-talk-of-electronic-warfare-technology-that-can-be-used-to-hide-aircraft#sthash.weqyGOBO.dpuf"

- Reports are emerging that the missing MH370 aircraft could have been using cutting-edge electronic warfare technology that can hide a plane from the radar.Further fuelling speculation is a confirmation by US-based Freescale Semiconductor, which manufactures hi-tech weapons systems and aircraft navigation, that 20 of its experts were passengers on the missing aircraft. - See more at: http://www.relax.com.sg/article/news/missing-mh370-talk-of-electronic-warfare-technology-that-can-be-used-to-hide-aircraft#sthash.weqyGOBO.dpuf

[Anonymous]

I wonder if any of the Malaysian engineers from Freescale Semiconductor knew either of the pilots prior?

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't it be something if this one plane contained multiple groups each with different agendas? One group with the goal of terrorist attack, one with the intention of getting off the grid for a bit, one with the intention to protest the jailing of the Malaysian political official. If no one could decide they could have ended up at a neutral location. Now there's a new theory.

Any word on Russia not submitting those background checks back to Malaysia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be something if this one plane contained multiple groups each with different agendas? One group with the goal of terrorist attack, one with the intention of getting off the grid for a bit, one with the intention to protest the jailing of the Malaysian political official. If no one could decide they could have ended up at a neutral location. Now there's a new theory.

Any word on Russia not submitting those background checks back to Malaysia?

Russia has been busy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why the US has not beefed up it defensives?

How do you know they haven't? I would hope they did this last week on the DL.

As mentioned up thread, its not an issue of seeing an unknown jet approaching US airspace, it is a question of having the pieces in place to react in a meaningful way when it is spotted. I would hope what ever post 9/11 steps were put in place have been amplified considering there is an aircraft missing.

[Anonymous]

It has been 13 days since my life turned upside down; this mystery has wrecked my mind... Has shattered my inner peace.. And have killed at least half my brain cells. If they don't find the darn plane soon I'm going to quit my job .. Auction my kid…. And Head over to hunt this piece of shit myself

[Anonymous]

We rock! US and Brittish aviation experts have narrowed the location of the plane to an even smaller area near Australia based on satellite signals from the plane. We're getting closer to answers people!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/search-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-drastically-narrows/story?id=22975958