Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".

And there’s also goes along with what the sheriff said last Friday that Internet rumors can ruin peoples lives.

And the sister and BIL haven't lawyered up as far as I can tell. They don't appear guilty to me. What exactly are people pointing to to suggest otherwise?

Annie’s demeanor in the first video was odd.

Wasn’t something brought up about bil gambling debt?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s odd an elderly woman living in a large house alone (and the mother of a celebrity) wouldn’t have a better security system? It sounds like there was a barely functioning ring doorbell and something that let them know ‘approximately’ when the garage was closed.

I’m a nobody but I have a system that is much more precise than that - it at least would be able to tell me the exact time a person was on my driveway; what time they were at the door; and what time the door was opened, with supporting video that goes to an app.

+1 She did not have enough supports in place for someone of her age and health issues living alone on that property. .

Even if true, what does that have to do with her being kidnapped??? The elderly don't get support to deter kidnappers, as far as I know.

All this says is nobody should sleep alone. That's not really practical to prevent this type of completely bizarre and unusual crime.

Having a strong, healthy caregiver or companion who's mobile without a cane can do much to help when a break-in occurs or prevent one from happening. .

Caregivers are paid next to nothing. You cannot expect them to body guards.

They can call 911. They can run faster. They can make sure alarm is on. Two people better than one.

You can’t force someone to live with someone if they don’t want to. Nancy is not incompetent.

Yes, you can. The real issue is too few Americans want an elderly parent to move in with their family. It’s easier for them to be out of sight out of mind…until predictably, tragedy happens.

If it turns out the sister and her husband/partner did this, then I can assure you she was not better off living with them.

I obviously know nothing but I don’t get the vibe that the sister is involved here. All three siblings are staying together and if the sister was a suspect, there would be news on it by now.

Can you imagine being the only sibling to stay close to your mother then have something tragic happen to her and be accused of her murder?

What is there to go off of? We aren’t aware of any lies or anything suspicious on her part at this point.

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If the BIL is innocent, I hope he sues Ashleigh Banfield and gets her taken off the air.

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Now that Camron and Savannah have done solo Video pleas…. Will Annie?

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Someone raised a great point - why no search parties?

Traditionally these types of cases have police walking the yards in rows to search for any evidence. Think even Relisha Rudd, Chandra Levy.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone raised a great point - why no search parties?

Traditionally these types of cases have police walking the yards in rows to search for any evidence. Think even Relisha Rudd, Chandra Levy.

Maybe because of the public nature of the victim's family, they are worried about people being more interested in taking video and/or possibly taking evidence versus following proper procedures?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone raised a great point - why no search parties?

Traditionally these types of cases have police walking the yards in rows to search for any evidence. Think even Relisha Rudd, Chandra Levy.

Maybe because of the public nature of the victim's family, they are worried about people being more interested in taking video and/or possibly taking evidence versus following proper procedures?

If you're talking about non volunteers, police have been combing the neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone raised a great point - why no search parties?

Traditionally these types of cases have police walking the yards in rows to search for any evidence. Think even Relisha Rudd, Chandra Levy.

Rattlesnakes, bobcats, scorpions,

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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".

And there’s also goes along with what the sheriff said last Friday that Internet rumors can ruin peoples lives.

And the sister and BIL haven't lawyered up as far as I can tell. They don't appear guilty to me. What exactly are people pointing to to suggest otherwise?

Annie’s demeanor in the first video was odd.

Of course it was odd! She’s thrown into a nationwide kidnapping case of her own mother whom she is a partial caretaker of! She’s traumatized. She’s having to grieve in the public spotlight because of her famous sister.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that Camron and Savannah have done solo Video pleas…. Will Annie?

Do you remember the Elizabeth smart case? Everybody thought it was the father or another family member. The mother barely spoke out and did not want to appear on camera. they said that was odd. Guess what: it was no one in the family. You can’t judge what family members are doing during traumatic times based on what your “normal” mind I thinks they should do.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that Camron and Savannah have done solo Video pleas…. Will Annie?

Do you remember the Elizabeth smart case? Everybody thought it was the father or another family member. The mother barely spoke out and did not want to appear on camera. they said that was odd. Guess what: it was no one in the family. You can’t judge what family members are doing during traumatic times based on what your “normal” mind I thinks they should do.

Really? I don't remember this. All I remember is that her little sister told the police she saw the person who took her and recognized him but couldn't remember from where. And that the parents refused to let the police keep questioning her over and over, saying that it would cause her to clam up or modify her memory of what she really saw, to fit whatever the police might be leading her towards. Which I guess might be seen as suspicious, yes, but apparently they were totally right because the girl one day was like BOOM I KNOW WHO IT WAS and she was 100% correct. That girl rocks.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone raised a great point - why no search parties?

Traditionally these types of cases have police walking the yards in rows to search for any evidence. Think even Relisha Rudd, Chandra Levy.

Rattlesnakes, bobcats, scorpions,

No worries. Elderly women in Tuscon are accustomed to such wildlife and enjoy living alone and taking walks with nature.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone raised a great point - why no search parties?

Traditionally these types of cases have police walking the yards in rows to search for any evidence. Think even Relisha Rudd, Chandra Levy.

Rattlesnakes, bobcats, scorpions,

All of which the national guard, fbi, and police departments have trained for…

Mikelle Briggs, other famous abductions have happened in the SW before

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Anonymous wrote:Now that Camron and Savannah have done solo Video pleas…. Will Annie?

Do you remember the Elizabeth smart case? Everybody thought it was the father or another family member. The mother barely spoke out and did not want to appear on camera. they said that was odd. Guess what: it was no one in the family. You can’t judge what family members are doing during traumatic times based on what your “normal” mind I thinks they should do.

Really? I don't remember this. All I remember is that her little sister told the police she saw the person who took her and recognized him but couldn't remember from where. And that the parents refused to let the police keep questioning her over and over, saying that it would cause her to clam up or modify her memory of what she really saw, to fit whatever the police might be leading her towards. Which I guess might be seen as suspicious, yes, but apparently they were totally right because the girl one day was like BOOM I KNOW WHO IT WAS and she was 100% correct. That girl rocks.

There’s a new Netflix documentary on the case and that is accurate. The father and then the uncle was suspected and the uncle’s demeanor (after all the stress and exhaustion of the search) was somewhat odd. I had forgotten several details of the case. It’s a good documentary if you are looking for something to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that Camron and Savannah have done solo Video pleas…. Will Annie?

Do you remember the Elizabeth smart case? Everybody thought it was the father or another family member. The mother barely spoke out and did not want to appear on camera. they said that was odd. Guess what: it was no one in the family. You can’t judge what family members are doing during traumatic times based on what your “normal” mind I thinks they should do.

Really? I don't remember this. All I remember is that her little sister told the police she saw the person who took her and recognized him but couldn't remember from where. And that the parents refused to let the police keep questioning her over and over, saying that it would cause her to clam up or modify her memory of what she really saw, to fit whatever the police might be leading her towards. Which I guess might be seen as suspicious, yes, but apparently they were totally right because the girl one day was like BOOM I KNOW WHO IT WAS and she was 100% correct. That girl rocks.

Yes, go watch the Elizabeth Smart story that just came out on Netflix. The public thought it was a family member for MONTHS! It didn’t quite happen as you are recalling.