Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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There are millions of 84 year olds that live alone in their own homes or their own apartments.

As long as they can do their ADLs--dress, bathe, prepare meals and pay their bills etc and are of sound mind they should be free to do so.

We have an 86 year old on our street who walks 4 miles a day.

Blame the kidnapper, not the victim.
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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".


And there’s also goes along with what the sheriff said last Friday that Internet rumors can ruin peoples lives.


And the sister and BIL haven't lawyered up as far as I can tell. They don't appear guilty to me. What exactly are people pointing to to suggest otherwise?


Annie’s demeanor in the first video was odd.
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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone stop saying “million dollar home” like that means something any more. I live in a 1992 4br colonial with zero updates other than paint that is worth “a million dollars.” I assure you we are not living large over here.


No, I will not stop saying a fact. A disabled widow in their 80s living in a large million dollar home on a desolated property is a recipe for disaster. Do you have any comprehension of what this sort of large property and a paid off million dollar home looks like to someone who makes minimum wage? Now think about all the delivery drivers, handy men, landscapers, home health aides, and various nomadic criminals lurking around. Even just indirectly workers mentioning how a certain nice house they visited has this lonely crippled old lady living alone. That's all it takes.


You sound clueless. It's not a massive home on a desolate property. You can see all the neighbors in the drone footage. This is hardly an impressive property for the area. They see much better on a daily basis.


It’s literally a million plus dollar home. You clearly have no grasp of what a million dollar asset is to someone who makes minimum wage and the assumptions they make about her and/or her family’s net worth. And 3,000+ sq/ft on that large lot is gigantic, especially in the context of a disabled old widow. This elderly woman was a sitting duck in such a home.


I’m from Tucson and you don’t know wTF you are talking about. There are lots and lots of single old ladies there. That’s one of tucsons top exonomic drivers. They don’t have a lot of specific over 55 places in Tucson (I know because we looked) because everyone is just aging I no place. And this is not a splashy house — you can easily heads further up tj hills to find houses more deserted with richer residents.


+1 These types of neighborhoods out west are full of elderly who are aging in place. My parents live in one.
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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".


She was given a week to clean up the house. Of course she’d say yes to the search. That is not true that a warrant is needed if you’re suspicious. Remember Scott Peterson consensually allowed a search and that’s when the cops noted the mop on the kitchen floor which he explained as his 9 month pregnant wife mopping before Christmas guests arrived.
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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".


This means absolutely nothing though - of course she consented, she doesn’t want to look guilty. What criminal actually declines the search. That’s sending a huge red flag to law enforcement.


Then they can get a search warrant. They should not want to leave any stone unturned at this point.

Exactly.

Annie can consent and if LE is suspicious, they *still* get a warrant, despite her consent.

The fact that they didn't get the warrant, apparently says LE doesn't have a high suspicion of her and/or husband.


Why were they using flash photography in the home? Why did her husband go to a car wash right after dropping Nancy off?

Savannah and her brother are no longer staying at Annie’s home. Annie and husband have hired security. Annie was not in the recent video.
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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".


And there’s also goes along with what the sheriff said last Friday that Internet rumors can ruin peoples lives.


And the sister and BIL haven't lawyered up as far as I can tell. They don't appear guilty to me. What exactly are people pointing to to suggest otherwise?


Lawyering up would make them look super guilty
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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".


And there’s also goes along with what the sheriff said last Friday that Internet rumors can ruin peoples lives.


And the sister and BIL haven't lawyered up as far as I can tell. They don't appear guilty to me. What exactly are people pointing to to suggest otherwise?


Annie’s demeanor in the first video was odd.


How do you expect her to act? This is a shocking situation and she is not used to being on camera like her sister. Nothing odd about her behavior given the circumstances.
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Anonymous wrote:She sounds different today like she still believes her mother is alive.


I don’t understand the necessity of these public videos. Can’t she just pay the ransom to the believed captor in private?


+1. It's only 6 million dollars. Surely that won't affect them that much. Cough it up, Savannah.


I don’t think they have substantiated that the ransom note source is legitimate
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Anonymous wrote:Brian Entin is reporting that he talked to a former FBI law enforcement expert who said that Annie consented to the searches of her house and garage the past few days.

The expert said if LE is at all suspicious, they usually will get a search warrant, instead of relying on a consensual search, because it holds up better later in court.

You can infer from this that since the search of daughter Annie's house was consensual, that LE isn't highly suspicious of her or her husband the "SIL".


And there’s also goes along with what the sheriff said last Friday that Internet rumors can ruin peoples lives.


And the sister and BIL haven't lawyered up as far as I can tell. They don't appear guilty to me. What exactly are people pointing to to suggest otherwise?


Annie’s demeanor in the first video was odd.


How do you expect her to act? This is a shocking situation and she is not used to being on camera like her sister. Nothing odd about her behavior given the circumstances.


+1
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Savannah and her brother are no longer staying at Annie’s home.


And you know this for a fact, how exactly?
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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone stop saying “million dollar home” like that means something any more. I live in a 1992 4br colonial with zero updates other than paint that is worth “a million dollars.” I assure you we are not living large over here.


No, I will not stop saying a fact. A disabled widow in their 80s living in a large million dollar home on a desolated property is a recipe for disaster. Do you have any comprehension of what this sort of large property and a paid off million dollar home looks like to someone who makes minimum wage? Now think about all the delivery drivers, handy men, landscapers, home health aides, and various nomadic criminals lurking around. Even just indirectly workers mentioning how a certain nice house they visited has this lonely crippled old lady living alone. That's all it takes.


You sound clueless. It's not a massive home on a desolate property. You can see all the neighbors in the drone footage. This is hardly an impressive property for the area. They see much better on a daily basis.


It’s literally a million plus dollar home. You clearly have no grasp of what a million dollar asset is to someone who makes minimum wage and the assumptions they make about her and/or her family’s net worth. And 3,000+ sq/ft on that large lot is gigantic, especially in the context of a disabled old widow. This elderly woman was a sitting duck in such a home.


I’m from Tucson and you don’t know wTF you are talking about. There are lots and lots of single old ladies there. That’s one of tucsons top exonomic drivers. They don’t have a lot of specific over 55 places in Tucson (I know because we looked) because everyone is just aging I no place. And this is not a splashy house — you can easily heads further up tj hills to find houses more deserted with richer residents.


+1 These types of neighborhoods out west are full of elderly who are aging in place. My parents live in one.


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Anonymous wrote:There are millions of 84 year olds that live alone in their own homes or their own apartments.

As long as they can do their ADLs--dress, bathe, prepare meals and pay their bills etc and are of sound mind they should be free to do so.

We have an 86 year old on our street who walks 4 miles a day.

Blame the kidnapper, not the victim.


Blame is not the same as accepting the reality of a given situation.
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Savannah and her brother are no longer staying at Annie’s home.


And you know this for a fact, how exactly?



NY Post says all three siblings are staying together: https://nypost.com/2026/02/09/us-news/savannah-guthrie-moves-now-hunkering-down-with-siblings-in-1-2m-mansion-as-ransom-deadline-looms/
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Anonymous wrote:Can everyone stop saying “million dollar home” like that means something any more. I live in a 1992 4br colonial with zero updates other than paint that is worth “a million dollars.” I assure you we are not living large over here.


No, I will not stop saying a fact. A disabled widow in their 80s living in a large million dollar home on a desolated property is a recipe for disaster. Do you have any comprehension of what this sort of large property and a paid off million dollar home looks like to someone who makes minimum wage? Now think about all the delivery drivers, handy men, landscapers, home health aides, and various nomadic criminals lurking around. Even just indirectly workers mentioning how a certain nice house they visited has this lonely crippled old lady living alone. That's all it takes.


You sound clueless. It's not a massive home on a desolate property. You can see all the neighbors in the drone footage. This is hardly an impressive property for the area. They see much better on a daily basis.


It’s literally a million plus dollar home. You clearly have no grasp of what a million dollar asset is to someone who makes minimum wage and the assumptions they make about her and/or her family’s net worth. And 3,000+ sq/ft on that large lot is gigantic, especially in the context of a disabled old widow. This elderly woman was a sitting duck in such a home.


I’m from Tucson and you don’t know wTF you are talking about. There are lots and lots of single old ladies there. That’s one of tucsons top exonomic drivers. They don’t have a lot of specific over 55 places in Tucson (I know because we looked) because everyone is just aging I no place. And this is not a splashy house — you can easily heads further up tj hills to find houses more deserted with richer residents.


+1 These types of neighborhoods out west are full of elderly who are aging in place. My parents live in one.


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Many of their neighbors are elderly because of the age of many of these neighborhoods; these are original owners. The demographics for their area in the census also support this.
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Anonymous wrote:I think it’s odd an elderly woman living in a large house alone (and the mother of a celebrity) wouldn’t have a better security system? It sounds like there was a barely functioning ring doorbell and something that let them know ‘approximately’ when the garage was closed.

I’m a nobody but I have a system that is much more precise than that - it at least would be able to tell me the exact time a person was on my driveway; what time they were at the door; and what time the door was opened, with supporting video that goes to an app.


+1 She did not have enough supports in place for someone of her age and health issues living alone on that property. .


Even if true, what does that have to do with her being kidnapped??? The elderly don't get support to deter kidnappers, as far as I know.


All this says is nobody should sleep alone. That's not really practical to prevent this type of completely bizarre and unusual crime.


Having a strong, healthy caregiver or companion who's mobile without a cane can do much to help when a break-in occurs or prevent one from happening. .


Caregivers are paid next to nothing. You cannot expect them to body guards.


They can call 911. They can run faster. They can make sure alarm is on. Two people better than one.


You can’t force someone to live with someone if they don’t want to. Nancy is not incompetent.


Yes, you can. The real issue is too few Americans want an elderly parent to move in with their family. It’s easier for them to be out of sight out of mind…until predictably, tragedy happens.


If it turns out the sister and her husband/partner did this, then I can assure you she was not better off living with them.
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