Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

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No, and that's the scary part. In past shutdowns the Republicans had full control and could stop it when they want. Now the House Republicans are off the rail and can't pass anything even if they want to. This is a scary shut down because it isn't the standard game, it's a fundamental inability to govern.

[Anonymous]

So govt workers who work remote and do nothing will stop working but will eventually get paid anyhow. And credit unions are giving zero percent loans to then to cover gap.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

You could work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So govt workers who work remote and do nothing will stop working but will eventually get paid anyhow. And credit unions are giving zero percent loans to then to cover gap.

Perhaps you haven’t tracked it, but as of this week, this is much more a GQP argument and less a thing someone trying to pass as normal says.

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Anonymous wrote:This will end when GPS is hours from crashing.

Not quite how it works, but yeah when they turn off civilian GPS and every Uber driver halts, good times.

GPS is a Federal service.

GPS IS USED WORLDWIDE AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S OWNED BY THE US GOVERNMENT IT WILL NOT BE SHUT OFF IN A SHUTDOWN.

EVERY WORLD LEADER WOULD COME DOWN HARD ON THE US.

I can't get anywhere without out and like to map my runs so don't want GPS shut down. But it would be nice if all those that hate the federal government and think it does nothing understood where the basic services they rely on daily come from.

Read up thread about how during a previous shutdown we were very close to losing gps functionality.

Stop with the disinformation. GPS cannot ever be turned off unless we're in WWIII and the enemy is using it against us. Every country in the world uses it and there would be serious geopolitical flack coming to the US if the federal government stopped it.

I mean, I understand there are a few trolls on this thread: you and the other idiot who keeps thinking there won't be a shutdown, but come on. Neither of you are remotely credible.

I am not a troll or a fear mongerer, I am a budget office staffer in a federal agency. When Congress discontinues appropriations for a certain function we cease operations of that function. If the shutdown stops our funding for GPS functions they will stop at some point, it doesn’t matter how important we all think they are if we don’t pay the bills.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

You could work.

What do you mean? Feds aren’t supposed to work a second job unless it is pre-approved by their agency. So my understanding is they can’t have a side job during the shutdown unless they already got that approved ahead of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

You could work.

We are not allowed to. Do you not understand that? At our town hall on Thursday, leadership stressed that it is ILLEGAL for us to do anything beyond checking email once a day (to see if we are called back) while furloughed.

I’m contemplating substitute teaching if this goes on for too long, so I may *have* to work for a temporary paycheck.

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CNN - House GOP meets at 930a as a plan has been under discussion: a CR until Nov. 17 extending current funding with disaster aid, per sources. Put it under suspension (2/3 majority) and rely on D votes, something McCarthy’s hard-right has told him not to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

You could work.

What do you mean? Feds aren’t supposed to work a second job unless it is pre-approved by their agency. So my understanding is they can’t have a side job during the shutdown unless they already got that approved ahead of time.[/quote

You’ve made a lot of assumptions there. Read the rules again.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

You could work.

What do you mean? Feds aren’t supposed to work a second job unless it is pre-approved by their agency. So my understanding is they can’t have a side job during the shutdown unless they already got that approved ahead of time.

Interesting. At my agency you can log onto the system for 2-3 specific reasons and one of them is to get approval for a 2nd job. And the Ethics folks are being treated as essential so they’ll be there to approve/disapprove.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of you are getting a (delayed paid) vacation.

Please don’t put it those terms. Feds just want to do their jobs, like everyone else. Nothing — and I mean nothing — about this is vacation-like.

You are not working, and getting paid for it. That's about as vacation-like as it gets.

You know it’s not a vacation.

If someone told me I couldn't work, would get paid for the time, and needed to stay home, I'd absolutely consider it a vacation. The fact that you can't spend it at the beach doesn't change that.

Do your vacations usually end at arbitrary times without notice and require you to report to work within four hours?

I would be ok with that! I’d stay home and get caught up on projects around the house. Read a few books, try new recipes, exercise….

But it’s not a vacation.

DP. Fine, don't want to call it a vacation? Call it welfare entitlement. You are being paid not to work.

Unlike my family. My spouse like you will get back pay, except that they are excepted and will have to work for the delayed pay. They don't get to clean the garage, the freezer, or go for a walk in the park, because they will still be working. I am a contractor, so I will be like you, at home and at leisure to do anything within recall of work. Except that you get paid and I don't.

So you are like the welfare recipients. You don't work, but you still get a handout from the federal government.

Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but some of us like our jobs, are invested in what we do, and really resent this needless disruption. So much time wasted this week planning for a possible shutdown. This "vacation" you call it at home will come back to bite later when I'm trying to catch up. The a-hats in Congress behind this are the ones not doing their jobs.

And all my reports are contractors. I am furious that they have this uncertainty and could lose pay. It's ridiculous.

Such misplaced resentment from that poster. I guess I’ll be on a “vacation” as you call it but I didn’t ask for it. I’m not going anywhere - DH working, kids I’m school and I likely will be called as essential for some brief periods. I may do some nice things - read some books, lunch with friends, exercise classes but what am I supposed to do? I didn’t create this situation.

You could work.

What do you mean? Feds aren’t supposed to work a second job unless it is pre-approved by their agency. So my understanding is they can’t have a side job during the shutdown unless they already got that approved ahead of time.

Interesting. At my agency you can log onto the system for 2-3 specific reasons and one of them is to get approval for a 2nd job. And the Ethics folks are being treated as essential so they’ll be there to approve/disapprove.

At my agency no one will be treated as essential and they will rely on us watching the news / a phone system to update us when it’s time to return.

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Anonymous wrote:This will end when GPS is hours from crashing.

Not quite how it works, but yeah when they turn off civilian GPS and every Uber driver halts, good times.

GPS is a Federal service.

GPS IS USED WORLDWIDE AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S OWNED BY THE US GOVERNMENT IT WILL NOT BE SHUT OFF IN A SHUTDOWN.

EVERY WORLD LEADER WOULD COME DOWN HARD ON THE US.

I can't get anywhere without out and like to map my runs so don't want GPS shut down. But it would be nice if all those that hate the federal government and think it does nothing understood where the basic services they rely on daily come from.

Read up thread about how during a previous shutdown we were very close to losing gps functionality.

Stop with the disinformation. GPS cannot ever be turned off unless we're in WWIII and the enemy is using it against us. Every country in the world uses it and there would be serious geopolitical flack coming to the US if the federal government stopped it.

I mean, I understand there are a few trolls on this thread: you and the other idiot who keeps thinking there won't be a shutdown, but come on. Neither of you are remotely credible.

I am not a troll or a fear mongerer, I am a budget office staffer in a federal agency. When Congress discontinues appropriations for a certain function we cease operations of that function. If the shutdown stops our funding for GPS functions they will stop at some point, it doesn’t matter how important we all think they are if we don’t pay the bills.

You don't know how your own government works, dear goodness. But if you're that stupid, no one can save you from your own fears, PP. Just keep on believing that GPS will shut down. Buy paper maps. Hunker down in your basement. The end of the world is coming, enemies of the state are going to invade, because "operations" of "functions" aren't funded.

Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:This will end when GPS is hours from crashing.

Not quite how it works, but yeah when they turn off civilian GPS and every Uber driver halts, good times.

GPS is a Federal service.

GPS IS USED WORLDWIDE AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S OWNED BY THE US GOVERNMENT IT WILL NOT BE SHUT OFF IN A SHUTDOWN.

EVERY WORLD LEADER WOULD COME DOWN HARD ON THE US.

I can't get anywhere without out and like to map my runs so don't want GPS shut down. But it would be nice if all those that hate the federal government and think it does nothing understood where the basic services they rely on daily come from.

Read up thread about how during a previous shutdown we were very close to losing gps functionality.

Stop with the disinformation. GPS cannot ever be turned off unless we're in WWIII and the enemy is using it against us. Every country in the world uses it and there would be serious geopolitical flack coming to the US if the federal government stopped it.

I mean, I understand there are a few trolls on this thread: you and the other idiot who keeps thinking there won't be a shutdown, but come on. Neither of you are remotely credible.

I am not a troll or a fear mongerer, I am a budget office staffer in a federal agency. When Congress discontinues appropriations for a certain function we cease operations of that function. If the shutdown stops our funding for GPS functions they will stop at some point, it doesn’t matter how important we all think they are if we don’t pay the bills.

You don't know how your own government works, dear goodness. But if you're that stupid, no one can save you from your own fears, PP. Just keep on believing that GPS will shut down. Buy paper maps. Hunker down in your basement. The end of the world is coming, enemies of the state are going to invade, because "operations" of "functions" aren't funded.

Sigh.

I do know how my government works and will not return your personal insults or sarcasm. Who funds and continues the operations of this or any other function when the appropriation is exhausted?

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Anonymous wrote:This will end when GPS is hours from crashing.

Not quite how it works, but yeah when they turn off civilian GPS and every Uber driver halts, good times.

GPS is a Federal service.

GPS IS USED WORLDWIDE AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S OWNED BY THE US GOVERNMENT IT WILL NOT BE SHUT OFF IN A SHUTDOWN.

EVERY WORLD LEADER WOULD COME DOWN HARD ON THE US.

I can't get anywhere without out and like to map my runs so don't want GPS shut down. But it would be nice if all those that hate the federal government and think it does nothing understood where the basic services they rely on daily come from.

Read up thread about how during a previous shutdown we were very close to losing gps functionality.

Stop with the disinformation. GPS cannot ever be turned off unless we're in WWIII and the enemy is using it against us. Every country in the world uses it and there would be serious geopolitical flack coming to the US if the federal government stopped it.

I mean, I understand there are a few trolls on this thread: you and the other idiot who keeps thinking there won't be a shutdown, but come on. Neither of you are remotely credible.

I am not a troll or a fear mongerer, I am a budget office staffer in a federal agency. When Congress discontinues appropriations for a certain function we cease operations of that function. If the shutdown stops our funding for GPS functions they will stop at some point, it doesn’t matter how important we all think they are if we don’t pay the bills.

You don't know how your own government works, dear goodness. But if you're that stupid, no one can save you from your own fears, PP. Just keep on believing that GPS will shut down. Buy paper maps. Hunker down in your basement. The end of the world is coming, enemies of the state are going to invade, because "operations" of "functions" aren't funded.

Sigh.

This idiot is like one of those “keep your government hands off my Medicare” people. Willfully ignorant and disdainful of what the federal government actually does and thinking that lots of services paid for by tax dollars magically fall from the sky.